Panic room woman challenges bedroom tax

RichievillaRichievilla Posts: 6,179
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A woman whose council home has been fitted with a secure panic room to protect her from a violent ex-partner is going to court on Wednesday to challenge the government’s so-called bedroom tax.

The work and pensions secretary, Iain Duncan Smith, has refused to withdraw the demand despite losing an earlier attempt to have the test case dismissed.

The woman, who lives in a three-bedroom property with her 11-year-old son, has been the victim of rape, assault, harassment, stalking and threats to kill at the hands of her former partner.

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/nov/18/panic-room-woman-challenges-bedroom-tax

It beggars belief that the few people in this situation (just 281 according to the article) are not automatically exempted from the "bedroom tax"/"RSRS". Yet another shameful indictment of Iain Duncan Smith and this government. I wish this lady all the best for tomorrow and I hope that she gets the verdict that she and others in her situation deserve.
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  • TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    Any normal politician would have backed down long ago.

    Iain Duncan Smith is a complete liability for the Conservatives. He's obviously not right in the head.
  • Jellied EelJellied Eel Posts: 33,091
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    Alternatively move them into a 2-bed house and make one of the bedrooms into a panic room. Or just a 2-bed house with some decent security so there's less need for a panic room. Or if the room is no longer a bedroom, it's not a 3-bed house anymore. Seeing as the money's already been spent securing this property, seems the cheapest option would be to let them stay there.

    Seems a bit of a waste of court time when common sense could be applied. Also kind of curious how these things get assessed. One of my 'bedrooms' is an office now.
  • AndyCopenAndyCopen Posts: 2,213
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    Needs a test case , else all the lazy socialists will want a "panic room" when they are forced to work for a living
  • trunkstertrunkster Posts: 14,468
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    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/nov/18/panic-room-woman-challenges-bedroom-tax

    It beggars belief that the few people in this situation (just 281 according to the article) are not automatically exempted from the "bedroom tax"/"RSRS". Yet another shameful indictment of Iain Duncan Smith and this government. I wish this lady all the best for tomorrow and I hope that she gets the verdict that she and others in her situation deserve.

    Perhaps she should choose her partners more wisely.
  • Jellied EelJellied Eel Posts: 33,091
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    AndyCopen wrote: »
    Needs a test case , else all the lazy socialists will want a "panic room" when they are forced to work for a living

    Perhaps a bit harsh-

    The woman, who lives in a three-bedroom property with her 11-year-old son, has been the victim of rape, assault, harassment, stalking and threats to kill at the hands of her former partner. She is not being identified.

    So may not be able to work, and perhaps needs some kind of protection. Or if her ex-partner's done all that, just lock him up so he's no longer a threat to this or any other woman..
  • RichievillaRichievilla Posts: 6,179
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    AndyCopen wrote: »
    Needs a test case , else all the lazy socialists will want a "panic room" when they are forced to work for a living
    trunkster wrote: »
    Perhaps she should choose her partners more wisely.

    Truly pathetic trolling comments. Why do some people waste their time writing such utter childish garbage?
  • tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    trunkster wrote: »
    Perhaps she should choose her partners more wisely.

    You could say that about millions of people every year, As this kind of thing effects millions of people every year. Domestic Violence knows no bounds or class or wealth
  • trunkstertrunkster Posts: 14,468
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    tim59 wrote: »
    You could say that about millions of people every year, As this kind of thing effects millions of people every year.

    A lot of people can't spot a baddun then.
  • BrokenArrowBrokenArrow Posts: 21,665
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    Without wishing to promote violence, someone should wipe out her useless slob of an ex.
  • trunkstertrunkster Posts: 14,468
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    Without wishing to promote violence, someone should wipe out her useless slob of an ex.

    Great, state funded assassinations:o
  • AndyCopenAndyCopen Posts: 2,213
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    Perhaps a bit harsh-

    The woman, who lives in a three-bedroom property with her 11-year-old son, has been the victim of rape, assault, harassment, stalking and threats to kill at the hands of her former partner. She is not being identified.

    So may not be able to work, and perhaps needs some kind of protection. Or if her ex-partner's done all that, just lock him up so he's no longer a threat to this or any other woman..

    As I said it needs a test case, so if someone needs a panic room (must be very rare) they can have one.

    Otherwise it will be used as loophole
  • tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    trunkster wrote: »
    A lot of people can't spot a baddun then.

    Well they hide everywere. Could you spot a a baddun, dont forget they dont were a badge
  • trunkstertrunkster Posts: 14,468
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    Truly pathetic trolling comments. Why do some people waste their time writing such utter childish garbage?

    As pathetic as this 'story'?
    Her waster partner will probably still target her if she had 1, 10 or 100 bedrooms.
  • trunkstertrunkster Posts: 14,468
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    tim59 wrote: »
    Well they hide everywere. Could you spot a a baddun, dont forget they dont were a badge

    I can, that's probably why I've been with the same woman for 28 years, and without being married.
  • dosanjh1dosanjh1 Posts: 8,727
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    trunkster wrote: »
    Perhaps she should choose her partners more wisely.

    That's an outrageous way to dismiss domestic violence and shift the blame on to the victim. I bet if you were violently attacked by someone you wouldn't appreciate others blaming you rather than the aggressor.

    In a case like this the bedroom tax not paying for a panic room isn't the problem, the problem is the threat to this women hasn't been removed from society.
  • tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    trunkster wrote: »
    I can, that's probably why I've been with the same woman for 28 years, and without being married.

    There is no such thing as a classic person who will commit domestic violence, it knows no bounds or class or wealth.
  • OLD HIPPY GUYOLD HIPPY GUY Posts: 28,199
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    Truly pathetic trolling comments. Why do some people waste their time writing such utter childish garbage?

    Because they like to wind people up, they probably like to pull the legs off spiders too, I haven't read all of the thread yet have we had "it's not a tax" yet?
  • trunkstertrunkster Posts: 14,468
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    dosanjh1 wrote: »
    That's an outrageous way to dismiss domestic violence and shift the blame on to the victim. I bet if you were violently attacked by someone you wouldn't appreciate others blaming you rather than the aggressor.

    In a case like this the bedroom tax not paying for a panic room isn't the problem, the problem is the threat to this women hasn't been removed from society.

    yep I agree, it's nothing to do with the "bedroom tax" it's pathetic that the story/OP suggests it is.
  • trunkstertrunkster Posts: 14,468
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    tim59 wrote: »
    There is no such thing as a classic person who will commit domestic violence, it knows no bounds or class or wealth.

    I know, but what's this got to do with the "bedroom tax"??
  • trunkstertrunkster Posts: 14,468
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    Because they like to wind people up, they probably like to pull the legs off spiders too, I haven't read all of the thread yet have we had "it's not a tax" yet?

    No, it's because people seem intent on blaming everything and every social ill on the "evil" "vile" Tories
  • tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    trunkster wrote: »
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    yep I agree, it's nothing to do with the "bedroom tax" it's pathetic that the story/OP suggests it is.

    Well if the law fails the women and her child then having a safe room to protection must be the next best thing, the state has already paid for this room to be built for thier protection, bit like the state has paid for all these disabled adaptions in disabled peoples homes, but this government want them to move as well, but refuses to give the socail services the money to adapted smaller places for these groups to move into
  • trunkstertrunkster Posts: 14,468
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    tim59 wrote: »
    Well if the law fails the women and her child then having a safe room to protection must be the next best thing, the state has already paid for this room to be built for thier protection, bit like the state has paid for all these disabled adaptions in disabled peoples homes, but this government want them to move as well, but refuses to give the socail services the money to adapted smaller places for these groups to move into

    Then this is a legal/judicial issue, nothing to do with the "bedroom tax"
  • tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    trunkster wrote: »
    I know, but what's this got to do with the "bedroom tax"??
    Because that is what this case is about, bedroom tax and protecting people from domestic violence
  • OLD HIPPY GUYOLD HIPPY GUY Posts: 28,199
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    trunkster wrote: »
    I can, that's probably why I've been with the same woman for 28 years, and without being married.

    Congratulations on treating your partner with respect and love and for never being abusive and/or violent towards her.
    That's right up there with "I love my kids and want the best for them" as though this is something that deserves a pat on the back or an award.
    it's what ANY decent human being does.

    Because all of these people who have a violent and abusive partners (and women can be violent and abusive too) knew that they were violent and abusive at the time that they got together with them or married them you know?

    Oh yeah, some of them love it, my partner often tells me of how she misses going to work and having to explain that she "walked into a door" AGAIN, or having to tell her children that her and their dad were "play fighting" and they shouldn't be frightened,

    She knew all of this was going to happen when she married him, bought a house and had 2 children with him, she rubbed her crystal ball and saw that he was going to become a violent alcoholic thug, but thought , "what the hell, I love a good kicking me"


    So go ahead, say something "smart" about that.
  • TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    IDS is Labour's Ed Miliband.
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