Jimmy Saville to be revealed as a paedophile? (Part 2)

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  • NosnikraplNosnikrapl Posts: 2,572
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    DaisyBill wrote: »
    I personally don't think so. It was just that there was very little choice on TV and entertainment generally, and all we had was what the BBC/ITV presented us with.
    Of course Jim'll fix it got high ratings, because it was on at that time [Saturday evening? I really can't remember] with very little competition.
    With TOTP, it really was the highlight of the TV week for teenagers, simply because there was very little opportunityto see the bands we loved, and very little TV that was teenager orientated.
    I agree with you, he definitely wasn't my favourite presenter on TOTP, I used to find him rather cringey.
    Of course when he became so well known for raising money for charity it did sort of put him beyond criticism.

    It was the concept of the shows that was more popular than he was - I believe. TOTP - had to be watched by every teenager in order to fit in next day at school. He was always the odd ball old man presenting - well for me anyway. As for Fix-it. You need to understand the time to realise that seeing kids realise their dreams particularly for many working class kids was a major draw. It started at a time of major economic crisis/three day weeks/power cuts/strikes. I read the other day at its peak 20K letters a week were going in. Kids could dream basically. He was the eccentric 'uncle' fixing it / making kids dreams come true. Shudder!
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,376
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    Fizgig wrote: »
    I don't believe that he was known as a threat on pediatric wards, but no complaints were made to the top. I think complaints must have been made.

    I think it's clear that he WAS a known threat on the wards considering that the nurses told the young girls to pretend they were asleep when he was nearby them so he wouldn't molest them !!

    Others girls were advised to stay in bed rather than be in their wheelchairs when he was around as he'd push them out of the ward and into the room provided by the hospital for his sole use .

    Jees. . Makes me so angry .
  • sozzled2daysozzled2day Posts: 1,217
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    Jimmy Savile

    Of his interview with Jimmy Savile, Anthony Clare writes, 'Jimmy Savile was not one of the easiest.
    Throughout he appeared exceedingly wary, like a prizefighter on his toes, anticipating a flurry of hooks to the head'.

    Saville is admittedly money-obsessed and throughout the interview, he insists that is devoid of any feelings.

    Clare: Now what about your feelings?

    Savile: I haven't found them yet.

    Clare: Seriously.

    Savile: No, I haven't found them yet. The only feelings I get is exhaustion when I have done about 19 miles in a marathon or when I'm fed up if I'm on a train and I'm lumbered on a train and somebody that's got drunk at the bar recognises me.

    Clare: What about the feelings you had for your mother, the Duchess?

    Savile: The Duchess. Yes, well that was, yes that was something because I actually enjoyed the Duchess. I didn't enjoy it in the early days because you have to learn to enjoy your parents, you see.

    Clare: You've never married.

    Savile: Oh, no, good heavens, no, couldn't do that.

    Clare: What would you say are the features that make you ideal as a single man?

    Savile: I like being on my own. I like climbing into bed on my own, and I like being able to do exactly what I want to do, when I want to do it. And now of course the ultimate luxury is that I've got all the money that was ever printed.

    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/on-dr-clares-couch-1210789.html

    I think it's really odd how he was so open about having no feelings. Maybe that's the only thing he was ever honest about, and why he enjoyed like-minded company at Broadmoor for so many years.
  • pinkpowerrangerpinkpowerranger Posts: 933
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    Aidan11 wrote: »
    Telegraph reporting the 4th person was a soap star at the BBC -



    I can't think of any popular soaps on the Beeb before Eastenders.

    I've not read the article so I don't know how it was worded but could mean that the actor worked for the BBC in one role but was a soapstar on another channel?
  • LykkieLiLykkieLi Posts: 6,644
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    Alexis07 wrote: »
    I think it's clear that he WAS a known threat on the wards considering that the nurses told the young girls to pretend they were asleep when he was nearby them so he wouldn't molest them !!

    Others girls were advised to stay in bed rather than be in their wheelchairs when he was around as he'd push them out of the ward and into the room provided by the hospital for his sole use .

    Jees. . Makes me so angry .

    Poor Fizgig, he\she missed a comma in their sentence and is being misread!
    I believe this is what he\she was saying:
    I don't believe that, he was known as a threat on pediatric wards, but no complaints were made to the top. I think complaints must have been made.
  • NosnikraplNosnikrapl Posts: 2,572
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    In my opinion, if JS was able to (without conscience) stalk the wards looking for children to pounce on and abuse, preferably sick children who couldn't move because they were recovering from surgery... then there is absolutely nothing he wouldn't have stooped to. I think some horror stories will be emerging from his porter 'duties' soon enough. They should dig the soulless bastard up and put him upside down so he's facing dirt for all eternity.

    As I said last week.

    http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,177
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    Alexis07 wrote: »
    I think it's clear that he WAS a known threat on the wards considering that the nurses told the young girls to pretend they were asleep when he was nearby them so he wouldn't molest them !!

    Others girls were advised to stay in bed rather than be in their wheelchairs when he was around as he'd push them out of the ward and into the room provided by the hospital for his sole use .

    Jees. . Makes me so angry .

    I worded it confusingly. What I tried to say was - since he WAS a known threat on the childrens wards, then I don't believe that this was hushed up at the hospital. Maybe higher up??
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,177
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    LykkieLi wrote: »
    Poor Fizgig, he\she missed a comma in their sentence and is being misread!
    I believe this is what he\she was saying:

    Eurika! I'm not on his sodding side!!!
  • LykkieLiLykkieLi Posts: 6,644
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    Fizgig wrote: »
    Eurika! I'm not on his sodding side!!!

    Punctuation dear! It's important. :D
    I had to double take your post but understood what you meant the 2nd time I read it.
  • lexi22lexi22 Posts: 16,394
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    Nosnikrapl wrote: »

    It really is all there, isn't it. Textbook.
  • LilaethLilaeth Posts: 750
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    I've not read the article so I don't know how it was worded but could mean that the actor worked for the BBC in one role but was a soapstar on another channel?

    The article says;

    'As the number of reported incidents involving the late DJ continued to mount, a woman came forward to allege she had been targeted by another well known figure at the BBC.
    It is understood the man, who has not been named, was a high profile figure within the Corporation and appeared on a popular soap opera.'
  • gilliedewgilliedew Posts: 7,605
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    Lilaeth wrote: »
    The article says;

    'As the number of reported incidents involving the late DJ continued to mount, a woman came forward to allege she had been targeted by another well known figure at the BBC.
    It is understood the man, who has not been named, was a high profile figure within the Corporation and appeared on a popular soap opera.'

    Google Jimmy Savile and The Krays
  • Johnny BluntJohnny Blunt Posts: 63
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    Aidan11 wrote: »
    Earlier today I was given the name of a very popular actor and decided to google him to see if there was anything out there. I found this link

    http://coulditbetrue.blogspot.co.uk/

    This is old and seems odd that you can just publish a name without any foundation. Is this likely to be BS or could there be something behind it.

    Strange indeed about RB being mentioned when his son has been convicted for possessing child pornography.
  • echoroseechorose Posts: 540
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    I think I mightI know who the 4th person is. He was good friends with FS. I don't know what I can say so I won't.
  • NosnikraplNosnikrapl Posts: 2,572
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    lexi22 wrote: »
    It really is all there, isn't it. Textbook.

    Indeed. As I said then the link to Broadmoor is the key. It is as though he knew what he was. The place will be full of sociopaths. What I don't get is why the trained professionals didn't pick up on who he was. This whole scenario is beyond comprehension.
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    copthis1 wrote: »
    Yes, I found it funny.... and?

    Well apart from the fact that it's an old 'joke' about Michael Jackson just re-hashed, that wasn't even funny then, it's highly offensive now in view of the scale of what's coming out here.

    I would only expect school children and stupid politicians to find that funny.
  • Phoenix LazarusPhoenix Lazarus Posts: 17,306
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    I used to really like the theme song that Jim'll Fix It used over the closing credits, the one that began, 'You're letter was only the start of it...' It was a really nice tune. Shame such a good song is now tainted in its associations.
  • Penny CrayonPenny Crayon Posts: 36,158
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    In response to the post about a soap star ^^^^ did it state BBC?

    The Comic Strip presents did a Famous Five Spoof - a well known actor from Crossroads (now deceased) played a paedo type character - I'm not going to name any names here but it did look sort of 'in jokey'.

    Anyone know who/what I'm talking about.
  • lexi22lexi22 Posts: 16,394
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    Nosnikrapl wrote: »
    Indeed. As I said then the link to Broadmoor is the key. It is as though he knew what he was. The place will be full of sociopaths. What I don't get is why the trained professionals didn't pick up on who he was. This whole scenario is beyond comprehension.

    Yes, beyond comprehension. I've kind of reached the point of exhaustion with it because it's so mind-bending. I've also reached the point where no matter what new dire info comes out about him, I feel I won't be shocked, which in itself is shocking.

    I think I'll go back to zelebrity-mocking. At least you know where you are with them.
  • MuggsyMuggsy Posts: 19,251
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    I used to really like the theme song that Jim'll Fix It used over the closing credits, the one that began, 'You're letter was only the start of it...' It was a really nice tune. Shame such a good song is now tainted in its associations.

    I was thinking this earlier.

    Your letter was only the start of it,
    One letter and now you're a part of it,
    Jim has fixed it for you.

    Now it has horrible connotations.:(
  • pinkpowerrangerpinkpowerranger Posts: 933
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    Lilaeth wrote: »
    The article says;

    'As the number of reported incidents involving the late DJ continued to mount, a woman came forward to allege she had been targeted by another well known figure at the BBC.
    It is understood the man, who has not been named, was a high profile figure within the Corporation and appeared on a popular soap opera.'

    Thanks for the full quote, so it only mentions the BBC
  • Penny CrayonPenny Crayon Posts: 36,158
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    In response to the post about a soap star ^^^^ did it state BBC?

    The Comic Strip presents did a Famous Five Spoof - a well known actor from Crossroads (now deceased) played a paedo type character - I'm not going to name any names here but it did look sort of 'in jokey'.

    Anyone know who/what I'm talking about.


    Ooooooooh I just Wikkied ........he was also in Compact an early BBC soap.
  • RadiomaniacRadiomaniac Posts: 43,510
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    I know who I'm thinking of in relation to the BBC soap star. Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

    But the '4th man' could be absolutely anyone who's ever been famous on the BBC - and that's a long list going back many years.
  • overlineoverline Posts: 1,898
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    I'm fed up with two things on these SaVILE threads.

    1) People saying 'Why didn't anyone speak up earlier?'. - It's been explained time and time again why they didn't. I'd advise those people to read the threads properly and not just the last paragraph in The Sun or the last three posts on DS.


    2) People (usually the same ones) saying 'He's dead, let's not do anything now'. Because his victims aren't dead and this whole disgraceful saga needs to be fully known, however bad it was/is.

    I totally agree, I've posted the same several times, luckily the numbers of people expressing such ridiculous views seem to be dropping daily, as the reports of what he got up to increases with each day.

    Some people have just been a bit slow in waking-up to reality.
  • DavidTDavidT Posts: 20,264
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    Thanks for the full quote, so it only mentions the BBC

    You have to be careful with that quote. its says "and appeared on a popular soap opera" which doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with the BBC. It could be any soap opera. In other words the first part of the quote doesn't have to be directly connected with the second. It might be but it doesn't have to be.
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