Bedroom tax

RedunitedRedunited Posts: 1,103
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Stupidest agenda , just pathetic from this government ? What about mansions and penthouses that have 8 + bedrooms.Again this government attacking the poorest first typical con party.Labour you really screwed the immigration system up haven't you you fools.Kick all immigrants out from the past 15 years out we don't need you we don't want you.Very controversial here but all immigrants should be tagged.

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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 2,889
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    best tax ever...im stuck in a pokey 3 bed flat while most houses in area is occupied by one person

    tax the ****ers out and give house to those who need them


    also without immigration, who fill all the jobs

    mostly all doctors at local hospital are immigrants, they are needed i guess

    i think they should tag the ignorant, but there isnt a need as they make it obvious
  • queseraseraqueserasera Posts: 2,999
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    Oh look a thread on the bedroom tax, wonder why we haven't had one before .........


    ....... but wait we have had several of them there is even one on this front page

    Guess the OP did not read that part of the rules that asks posters to check there isn't a thread on a subject before starting a thread


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  • tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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  • James2001James2001 Posts: 73,653
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    grps3 wrote: »
    i think they should tax the ignorant

    That's easy, just look at who reads the Daily Mail and votes Tory.
  • MuzeMuze Posts: 2,225
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    I've no objection to the concept of tackling under-occupiers, but IMO it should include pensioners too.

    However, it is a pointless exercise when suitable properties simply are not available.

    It's not going to end up saving a great deal of money, I already know of people considering moving to small, but pricier, private rentals.
  • tim59tim59 Posts: 47,188
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    Muze wrote: »
    I've no objection to the concept of tackling under-occupiers, but IMO it should include pensioners too.

    However, it is a pointless exercise when suitable properties simply are not available.

    It's not going to end up saving a great deal of money, I already know of people considering moving to small, but pricier, private rentals.

    Have a look on this thread Legal challenge to the controversial 'Bedroom Tax' see what the courts have said already,
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 704
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    Redunited wrote: »
    Stupidest agenda , just pathetic from this government ? What about mansions and penthouses that have 8 + bedrooms.Again this government attacking the poorest first typical con party.Labour you really screwed the immigration system up haven't you you fools.Kick all immigrants out from the past 15 years out we don't need you we don't want you.Very controversial here but all immigrants should be tagged.

    Your concern regarding the bedroom tax suggests that you yourself are living off the state, and yet your primary concern until something has affeted your own pocket is immigration, and tagging the people who's taxes are probably paying for your lifestyle.

    Presumably you have so such suggestions for the 5.5 million Brits living or working abroad.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6210358.stm

    I suggest that you keep voting for the BNP.....or for the new more acceptable face of Right Wing politics for your particular type of person.
  • OLD HIPPY GUYOLD HIPPY GUY Posts: 28,199
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    Has a quick look in to see if the "boss of threads" is around because I don't want to be told off for daring to post in a thread that the boss has sneered disapproval at, or for being "selfish" or for writing a long post,


    From the National Housing Federation, "the voice of housing associations"
    (this just might mean they know what they are talking about,)

    http://www.housing.org.uk/media/news/bedroom_tax_local_impact.aspx

    About us just to establish who they are, in case anyone objects to what they say or questions their relevance,

    The National Housing Federation is the voice of affordable housing in England. We believe that everyone should have the home they need at a price they can afford.

    That’s why we represent the work of housing associations and campaign for better housing. Our members provide two and a half million homes for more than five million people. And each year they invest in a diverse range of neighbourhood projects that help create strong, vibrant communities.[/B]

    Yeah but the Tories don't like that sort of thing sounds a bit 'commie' to them,

    they say,

    New bedroom tax figures show local impact


    5 March 2013

    New figures estimating the numbers of people hit by the bedroom tax at constituency level have been released by the National Housing Federation.

    National Housing Federation chief executive David Orr says:

    'This perverse tax is doing exactly what the Government promised it wouldn’t – hitting the most vulnerable people in our society. They are being penalised for a weak housing policy that for years has failed to build enough affordable homes and reduce the housing benefit bill.

    'The bedroom tax is ill-thought, unfair and will force thousands of people to cut back further on food and other expenses in order to stay in their own homes. It takes no account of disabled people’s adapted homes, of foster parents who need rooms to take children in, or of parents sharing custody who will lose the room for their child at weekends.

    'It is also incompetent as it will cost the nation money rather than saving it. The Government must repeal this ill-conceived policy, but at the very least right now it must exempt disabled and other vulnerable people from these cuts.'


    bloody commies, talking about human beings and the impact this vile legislation will have on their lives instead of talking about how much money it will save....oh wait... it wont do that either, but it WILL force one lot of people out of their homes to give them to another lot of people (except it won't of course)
    and the other lot of people (IF they manage to jump the housing list, which of course they wont) will also be forced out of the same homes in a few years time when their kids grow up and leave home, or die, or their partners leave home or die,

    ANYTHING except actually build more homes, can't do that AND give our palls a massive tax cut though,
    ;)
  • AneechikAneechik Posts: 20,208
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    Newsnight did quite an extensive report a few weeks ago highlighting how many northern towns have a glut of 3 bedroom council houses and few 1 bedroom flats, which will mean people being moved into private sector accomodation that costs more.

    So as with anything the coalition does, it's a good idea that's going to turn into a mess. I see no reason why under occupancy shouldn't be tackled, it's quite right that the limited council housing available should be managed correctly, but there needs to be some level of local variation that reflects what housing is physically available in the area.
  • barrcode88barrcode88 Posts: 6,849
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  • OLD HIPPY GUYOLD HIPPY GUY Posts: 28,199
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    barrcode88 wrote: »

    True, but that thread is specifically about the legal challenge to the "spare" bedroom fine, where this is just about the the "spare" bedroom fine in general,

    ;):D
  • Mike2011Mike2011 Posts: 411
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    The Bedroom tax will not stay, it may take couple of years or so when the figures for crime and homelessness have shot thru the roof.

    If anything it's just making the poor more poor, would have been a good idea to not "tax" people who agree to go on a list to move to smaller residence, but obviously it's not about sizing down, it's about scrapping back money, yet if we got in a situation like the 2 world wars it would be the very people they are targeting who would be expected to defend the kingdom on the front line.
  • koantemplationkoantemplation Posts: 101,293
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    Mike2011 wrote: »
    The Bedroom tax will not stay, it may take couple of years or so when the figures for crime and homelessness have shot thru the roof.

    If anything it's just making the poor more poor, would have been a good idea to not "tax" people who agree to go on a list to move to smaller residence, but obviously it's not about sizing down, it's about scrapping back money, yet if we got in a situation like the 2 world wars it would be the very people they are targeting who would be expected to defend the kingdom on the front line.
    Yes exactly.

    Caroline Lucas said that this would only save money if the people who were in under occupied tenancies, stayed in them and lost the housing benefit for the extra room.

    People who are willing to move but can't (because of factors outside their ability to control) shouldn't have to pay this extra money as it is not their fault.
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