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Malaysian Airline 777 missing 239 feared dead

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    jonmorrisjonmorris Posts: 21,775
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    It's not speculation, it's fantasy and it has no place in Newspapers.

    The Internet is the place for cranks.

    Indeed. It's been a while since anyone asked how we can't find a plane this big even though we could put a man on the moon...
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    d0lphind0lphin Posts: 25,355
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    The Pentagon are (naturally) disputing the claims that the US shot it down, article here:

    http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2014/12/23/did-navy-shoot-down-mh370/20807653/
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    d0lphind0lphin Posts: 25,355
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    wjongwjong Posts: 914
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    steveh31steveh31 Posts: 13,516
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    The search for MH370 has ended and has been declared an accident all passengers now persumed dead.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1417191/mh370-loss-an-accident-all-on-board-dead
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 53,142
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    How can no bodies be found ?
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    SaturnVSaturnV Posts: 11,519
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    Good grief
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    coughthecatcoughthecat Posts: 6,876
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    steveh31 wrote: »
    The search for MH370 has ended and has been declared an accident all passengers now persumed dead.

    http://news.sky.com/story/1417191/mh370-loss-an-accident-all-on-board-dead

    This is a somewhat misleading article as the search has not been called off.

    The statement is simply part of the formal process which changes the status of the passengers and crew from "missing" to "dead", thereby allowing relatives to pursue claims for compensation from the airline and insurers.
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    steveh31steveh31 Posts: 13,516
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    It's more a closure for the families than anything else.
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    NilremNilrem Posts: 6,940
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    It's also a reasonably important legal measure, as it means that various parts of the legal process for compensation etc can now start going ahead (and I suspect that the passengers and crew can now be legally declared dead).
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    TheGrumpWizardTheGrumpWizard Posts: 1,547
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    10 months is a long time before declaring them dead. It's not as if they were going to be discovered after 9 months living on a desert island or the plane found at the bottom of the ocean with them alive in an air bubble. This could surely have been done after a few weeks and helped ease the relatives burden.
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    Bulletguy1Bulletguy1 Posts: 18,429
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    I wonder how much longer Malaysia Airlines can continue in business?
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    coughthecatcoughthecat Posts: 6,876
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    10 months is a long time before declaring them dead. It's not as if they were going to be discovered after 9 months living on a desert island or the plane found at the bottom of the ocean with them alive in an air bubble. This could surely have been done after a few weeks and helped ease the relatives burden.

    There was an announcement after a couple of weeks, but that was pretty much met with hostility all round.

    Even now, this latest announcement has been criticised by some friends/family members as being too soon as they clearly believe the aircraft is parked on some desert island or was spirited off to a secret destination for reasons unknown. I wasn't in the slightest surprised to hear Sarah Bajc claim the the Malaysian government and airline are "lying" with regard to this latest announcement.

    Basically, the Malaysian authorities can't win. If they didn't declare the passengers to be officially dead, they'd be criticised for not allowing the families to pursue their claims for full compensation. When they do make such a declaration, they're accused of lying!
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 53,142
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    wow, coming up for a year :(
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    DixDix Posts: 79,142
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    Bulletguy1 wrote: »
    Blimey.....where've you been for the last month? :o

    You wrote NN d@ove. :D

    Hiya Bg, just realised what you meant re cooing. :D

    But on a sad note, you seen the latest CNN link?
    http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/29/asia/malaysia-missing-mh370/index.html

    They are continuiing the search, but they reckon everyone is dead, and the relatives can continue to ask for compensation. Makes me feel deflated, and wish more could have been done. :(:(
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    Bulletguy1Bulletguy1 Posts: 18,429
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    Dix wrote: »
    Hiya Bg, just realised what you meant re cooing. :D

    But on a sad note, you seen the latest CNN link?
    http://edition.cnn.com/2015/01/29/asia/malaysia-missing-mh370/index.html

    They are continuiing the search, but they reckon everyone is dead, and the relatives can continue to ask for compensation. Makes me feel deflated, and wish more could have been done. :(:(
    Yes it's just closure to enable the families to get on with the business of pursuing compensation.

    However......Sweet Princess has been very quiet lately. :cool:
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    DixDix Posts: 79,142
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    Soz didn't see above posts afore I posted mine, never mind.

    They had a chance of finding some bodies last year, but missed their chance. That investigation should never be closed! If the relatives feel their family members are still alive, then they should start the search for them, even if the chances are slim. They should start when the Plane went missing, as there are 6 hours to account for, look at those 6 hours more closely.
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    DixDix Posts: 79,142
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    Bulletguy1 wrote: »
    Yes it's just closure to enable the families to get on with the business of pursuing compensation.

    However......Sweet Princess has been very quiet lately. :cool:

    Sweet Princess sounds like the name of a Cruise ship;-):D
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    DixDix Posts: 79,142
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    Speaking of cruise liners, there was one in the Malacca Strait at the time when the plane vanished. It's captain is a man of many words, and has a blog. :)
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    Bulletguy1Bulletguy1 Posts: 18,429
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    Dix wrote: »
    Soz didn't see above posts afore I posted mine, never mind.

    They had a chance of finding some bodies last year, but missed their chance. That investigation should never be closed! If the relatives feel their family members are still alive, then they should start the search for them, even if the chances are slim. They should start when the Plane went missing, as there are 6 hours to account for, look at those 6 hours more closely.
    It won't be closed physically until they find something.....just closed officially. All are dead but without legal certification (until now) the families haven't been able to start compensation procedures.

    Now they can.
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    wjongwjong Posts: 914
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    Statement by Malaysia declaring MH370 an accident

    http://www.jacc.gov.au/media/releases/2015/january/mr001_2015.aspx
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    d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,531
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    MH 370 video update on CNN. http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/02/18/pkg-coren-flight-mh370-search.cnn

    Nothing found as yet, 4 ships involved, one third of the priority search area now covered.
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    Rich Tea.Rich Tea. Posts: 22,048
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    I see that the Daily Mail online today has got the oil rig worker story up and going again with his insistence that MH370 is not where they are searching but came down in the South China Sea and that he saw it. Apparently he has lost his job, although whether it really is because of his insistence on this I am unsure. Nearly a year later and not one person I have ever spoken to about this actually believes the truth is being told. Good to see this thread remaining active. It must never be forgotten until there is an answer, which is out there somewhere.
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    gregrichardsgregrichards Posts: 4,913
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    Rich Tea. wrote: »
    I see that the Daily Mail online today has got the oil rig worker story up and going again with his insistence that MH370 is not where they are searching but came down in the South China Sea and that he saw it. Apparently he has lost his job, although whether it really is because of his insistence on this I am unsure. Nearly a year later and not one person I have ever spoken to about this actually believes the truth is being told. Good to see this thread remaining active. It must never be forgotten until there is an answer, which is out there somewhere.

    "An oil rig worker who was notoriously fired for saying he believed he saw MH370 'come down' today insisted he thinks the official search for the Malaysian jet is happening in the wrong place.

    In his first detailed interview since he sent out an email to officials relaying what he thought might be the Boeing 777 aircraft, Mike McKay, 57, told MailOnline: 'Almost a year has passed, but I stand by what I saw.

    'I've thought about it and thought about it, over and over and while I cannot say for certain that the burning object in the sky was definitely MH370, the timing fits in with when the Malaysian plane lost contact. I have been trying to disprove that what I saw was the aeroplane ever since.'

    And so far he has failed to disprove it. Speaking at his Auckland home where he now sits out his days after losing his job as a result of sending out the email on his company computer on the rig off the south of Vietnam, Mr McKay said that everyone believed he had said with certainty that he saw MH370 crash in flames into the South China Sea.

    'Unfortunately my words were misinterpreted. I was careful to say that I 'believed' I saw the aircraft come down. The email was never for public consumption.


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2951991/Search-MH370-taking-place-thousands-miles-away-wrong-direction-insists-oil-rig-worker-notoriously-fired-reporting-believed-saw-jet-fire.html#ixzz3S9U3XKYK
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    Bulletguy1Bulletguy1 Posts: 18,429
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    "An oil rig worker who was notoriously fired for saying he believed he saw MH370 'come down' today insisted he thinks the official search for the Malaysian jet is happening in the wrong place.
    Seems very odd to fire the guy simply for sending out an email. :confused:

    His employers are going to look pretty damn stupid if it is eventually found around that location, not to mention being whacked with a hefty fee for wrongful dismissal!
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