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Do Germany get to keep this trophy?

JBOJBO Posts: 6,148
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Like Brazil in 1970, aren't they the first team to win the current trophy 3 times?

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    EurostarEurostar Posts: 78,519
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    Italy have won it three times as well
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    celesticelesti Posts: 26,006
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    Italy have won the current trophy twice.
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    SaddlerSteveSaddlerSteve Posts: 4,325
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    There was a stipulation made by Jules Rimet himself that the first team to win his trophy 3 times would get to keep it.

    There's nothing like that in place for this one.

    The winners always get to keep a gold plated copy of the original anyway.
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    degsyhufcdegsyhufc Posts: 59,251
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    JBO wrote: »
    Like Brazil in 1970, aren't they the first team to win the current trophy 3 times?
    No. They get a replica. The original stays with FIFA.
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    GoodwinGoodwin Posts: 6,576
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    They were West Germany when they won it 1974 but no they don't get to keep it.
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    SaddlerSteveSaddlerSteve Posts: 4,325
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    There's also now only space for 3 more teams to be engraved on the present trophy which would indicate they'll need a new one anyway in 2030.

    That will also be the 100th anniversary of the tournament so would be a good time for a new trophy anyway.
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    EurostarEurostar Posts: 78,519
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    Goodwin wrote: »
    They were West Germany when they won it 1974 but no they don't get to keep it.

    And indeed in 1990 : the country wasn't officially reunified until October that year.
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    celesticelesti Posts: 26,006
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    The German national team incorporates the history of the West Germany side, so this is still their fourth win.
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    Apollo CreedApollo Creed Posts: 998
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    I think it would have been nice to see them keep it after Brazil did to be honest
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    coolercooler Posts: 13,024
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    Even the original trophy, in gold terms is only worth less than half of Ronaldo's weekly wages.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/the-price-of-the-world-cup-its-about-half-of-ronaldos-salary-30340903.html

    But it's the win that counts.
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    EurostarEurostar Posts: 78,519
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    celesti wrote: »
    The German national team incorporates the history of the West Germany side, so this is still their fourth win.

    Yes, it's the same football federation and team
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    degsyhufcdegsyhufc Posts: 59,251
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    Apollo Creed wrote: »
    I think it would have been nice to see them keep it after Brazil did to be honest
    If it's worth $10m can you see FIFA giving that away?
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    Apollo CreedApollo Creed Posts: 998
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    degsyhufc wrote: »
    If it's worth $10m can you see FIFA giving that away?

    I reckon FIFA have enough to cover it ;-)
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    SaddlerSteveSaddlerSteve Posts: 4,325
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    celesti wrote: »
    The German national team incorporates the history of the West Germany side, so this is still their fourth win.

    Indeed.
    I noticed on their Wikipedia page someone has already amended the badge so it shows 4 stars!
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    degsyhufcdegsyhufc Posts: 59,251
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    Apollo Creed wrote: »
    I reckon FIFA have enough to cover it ;-)
    I'm sure they have billions in the bank. Doesn't mean that they like to give money away.
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    Scarlett BerryScarlett Berry Posts: 21,135
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    Goodwin wrote: »
    They were West Germany when they won it 1974 but no they don't get to keep it.

    You really have to let this point go. Germany was never 2 countries as much as you would like it to appear so.

    Germany have won the WORLD CUP FOUR, that is, 4 Times. Being bitter and trying to rewrite geogriphical (sic) boundries just doesn't wash. Only makes you look delusional and not a fair sport.

    Well done Deutschland!
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    GoodwinGoodwin Posts: 6,576
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    Scarlett Berry wrote: »
    You really have to let this point go. Germany was never 2 countries as much as you would like it to appear so.

    Germany have won the WORLD CUP FOUR, that is, 4 Times. Being bitter and trying to rewrite geogriphical (sic) boundries just doesn't wash. Only makes you look delusional and not a fair sport.

    Well done Deutschland!

    I wasn't trying to make any point. Somebody pointed out before you about German unification and the world cup wins under West Germany. I didn't dispute it. And don't accuse me of being bitter. I was more than happy that Germany won the world cup as I pointed out in the world cup final thread. Thank you.
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    Xela MXela M Posts: 4,710
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    A German friend of mine is always adding all the West and East German Olympic medals to show that Germany is the most successful Olympic nation or something similar...

    Obviously, Germany now have 4 stars in football, but to the poster who said West and East Germany were never two different states... :confused: That's wrong.
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    Scarlett BerryScarlett Berry Posts: 21,135
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    Goodwin wrote: »
    I wasn't trying to make any point. Somebody pointed out before you about German unification and the world cup wins under West Germany. I didn't dispute it. And don't accuse me of being bitter. I was more than happy that Germany won the world cup as I pointed out in the world cup final thread. Thank you.

    Fair dues, please accept my apologies. No offence intended;-)x
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    GoodwinGoodwin Posts: 6,576
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    Scarlett Berry wrote: »
    Fair dues, please accept my apologies. No offence intended;-)x

    Of course. Thank you :)
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    gemma-the-huskygemma-the-husky Posts: 18,116
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    I asked the same on the final game thread.

    I think it would be good for Germany to keep this one, make a new one, and first to get 3 wins the new one. Why not?
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    Big Boy BarryBig Boy Barry Posts: 35,389
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    Merkel should just keep it anyway

    Who's going to stop her?
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    Scarlett BerryScarlett Berry Posts: 21,135
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    Big Boy Barry wrote: »
    Merkel should just keep it anyway

    Who's going to stop her?

    Christ, I hate crap like this. >:(
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    AZZURRI 06AZZURRI 06 Posts: 11,173
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    Big Boy Barry wrote: »
    Merkel should just keep it anyway

    Who's going to stop her?

    Not David Cameron that`s for sure!! :)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 18,071
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    Scarlett Berry wrote: »
    Christ, I hate crap like this. >:(

    Well Merkel could be better at PR. Showing up at a Greece Germany (I think it was the last Euros) is exactly the Thatcherlike bs no one needs.

    Anyway with her elephant in a China shop PR methods, one can sadly say the ones without a detailed knowledge of German politics will react to her and not to the large left wing party percentage most Germans vote for. (SPD, Gruene, Die Linke) etc.
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