I thought Farage was rather average. Admittedly he clearly knew being incredibly controversial on QT probably wasn't going to work in his favour; and so toned down his act. But all in all he didn't really make an impact. Brand, for what he was selling (the populist 'down with the rich' meme) did fairly well in the beginning, but his answer on the grammar schools question was beyond a joke. You'd think a political campaigner would at least have some background knowledge on the education system. I also thought the man calling for him to stand for parliament was a bit of a joke though - being campaigner doesn't necessarily translate to having the political skills to survive in the house of commons (and furthermore as a lone MP have a substantial impact on anything), nor does it even translate to managing the day-to-day pressures of being an MP. I seriously doubt Brand is that good of a campaigner, let alone being a good MP!
Creagh and Mordaunt were completely anonymous. Mordaunt spoke with little conviction or authority, and Creagh embarrassed herself early on in the show. If there were to be a 'winner' of tonight's show I think Camilla Cavendish came off as the most reasonable panelist - giving honest, and articulate answers. Both Brand and Farage seemed to be in something of a battle to come across as the ordinary bloke down town, and tbh I don't think either of them were convincing in that act.
It may appear that way, but that's down to Farage taking control of these situations. He is the master of these things and is why Miliband and Cameron don't want to debate with him.
Farage claiming immigration has made everyones life worse was an outright lie. I don't see how any rational honest person could approve of his behaviour.
Russel Brand's heart is clearly in the right place.
The women who focused on criminal immigrants was clearly a thinly veiled reactionary bigot. Brands comment about how MPs will benefit from privatising elements of the NHS was very pertinent and the issue of their unfair pay rises.
He already has a job as a comedian. People are allowed to complain about how rubbish politician's are without being expected to stand and replace them.
Besides, if he did stand he would just be criticised for being a millionaire
Of course people are allowed to complain as they want. But:
His reply was weak.
He is willing to campaign strongly for issues he believes in.
He is already being criticised for being a millionaire. If he stood for parliment at least no one could accuse him of doing it for the money.
He has shown fortitude in overcoming his addiction (or at least replacing dependance on snort for sex)
He has gone out of his way to advise people not to vote. Thus undermining the fundamentals of British democracy. He says he did this because there was nothing for ordinary people to vote for. How about he effects change by filling that void himself?
I'm glad Brand exists. He is talented and at least he cares, however naive or misguided he may come across. But his appearance tonight probably won him no new fans and may have actually aided ukip. As someone else said earlier he came across as someone who would far rather take moralistic potshots while still enjoying all the trappings of celebrity culture instead of knuckling to the hard graft of reading every detail of a draft bill. As I said earlier, shyster.
Farage claiming immigration has made everyones life worse was an outright lie. I don't see how any rational honest person could approve of his behaviour.
Russel Brand's heart is clearly in the right place.
Yep that sums it up perfectly, and is the same opinion of any rational mentally-balanced person.
I thought Farage was rather average. Admittedly he clearly knew being incredibly controversial on QT probably wasn't going to work in his favour; and so toned down his act. But all in all he didn't really make an impact. Brand, for what he was selling (the populist 'down with the rich' meme) did fairly well in the beginning, but his answer on the grammar schools question was beyond a joke. You'd think a political campaigner would at least have some background knowledge on the education system. I also thought the man calling for him to stand for parliament was a bit of a joke though - being campaigner doesn't necessarily translate to having the political skills to survive in the house of commons (and furthermore as a lone MP have a substantial impact on anything), nor does it even translate to managing the day-to-day pressures of being an MP. I seriously doubt Brand is that good of a campaigner, let alone being a good MP!
Creagh and Mordaunt were completely anonymous. Mordaunt spoke with little conviction or authority, and Creagh embarrassed herself early on in the show. If there were to be a 'winner' of tonight's show I think Camilla Cavendish came off as the most reasonable panelist - giving honest, and articulate answers. Both Brand and Farage seemed to be in something of a battle to come across as the ordinary bloke down town, and tbh I don't think either of them were convincing in that act.
Brand didn't answer a single question!! Kept going completely off topic. Farage very statesmen-like. Didn't even have to do much, Brand dug his own grave.
For the record, I don't much care for either one's politics, but Farage sat there calmly, at least trying to provide cogent answers to what was asked of him. Brand, by way of contrast, just seemed to reel off pre-prepared rants that not only came across gauche and inapproriate, but also seemed to bear scant relation to the questions. I thought he made himself look very foolish.
Aside from that, it was all very entertaining...it seemed like a fight was going to breakout amongst the audience at one point.
Regards,
Cypher
Thing is don't you think its possible he was just nervous and overwhelmed? I sure would be. I know plenty of HIGHLY intelligent people who have very passionate opinions on things but when put on the spot on a panel like that, they would crumble.
The politicians have a strong agenda and are skilled in presenting their side of a debate. How many of them i wonder did go to great schools n take part in debating competitions! They may present what they say well but when you pick it apart, the heart of what they are saying is designed to say, "follow me"
russ isn't about that. He doesn't want to be a politician, he doesn't want to stand as leader, he's not got that agenda, he's not trying to get people on his side.
I thought Mary came across well and i really liked Camilla too. Penny and Russell didn't do very good because Russell though passionate doesn't make his points very well and Penny seemed to struggle with all the issues raised due to her party's general ineffectiveness at almost everything. In her defence though she did at least remain calm and dignified for the most part.
Nigel was a bit weak in my opinion because he doesn't give proper answers and seems to just wan't to attack Labour a lot of the time. Also one thing i did agree with Russell on was UKIP are a nostalgic party pandering to older voters with a "in my day" mentality, i mean i can't think of any social progressive ideas on anything that UKIP would publicly support. Their record speaks for itself like how they opposed equal marriage and in their last manifesto wanted to take protections away from people in their jobs and limit your right to claim it was an unfair dismissal.
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Creagh and Mordaunt were completely anonymous. Mordaunt spoke with little conviction or authority, and Creagh embarrassed herself early on in the show. If there were to be a 'winner' of tonight's show I think Camilla Cavendish came off as the most reasonable panelist - giving honest, and articulate answers. Both Brand and Farage seemed to be in something of a battle to come across as the ordinary bloke down town, and tbh I don't think either of them were convincing in that act.
You've not got blue hair by any chance have you?
A Comical Campaigning C***?
Ha ha. No I meant the disruptive pupils
It may appear that way, but that's down to Farage taking control of these situations. He is the master of these things and is why Miliband and Cameron don't want to debate with him.
His life was threatened live on air by a demented leftist fanatic the BBC let into the audience, what were you hoping for? An assassination?
No doubt you'll be voting Labour next May.
LMAO!!!
I think she is Russell's number 1 fan.
Of course people are allowed to complain as they want. But:
His reply was weak.
He is willing to campaign strongly for issues he believes in.
He is already being criticised for being a millionaire. If he stood for parliment at least no one could accuse him of doing it for the money.
He has shown fortitude in overcoming his addiction (or at least replacing dependance on snort for sex)
He has gone out of his way to advise people not to vote. Thus undermining the fundamentals of British democracy. He says he did this because there was nothing for ordinary people to vote for. How about he effects change by filling that void himself?
I'm glad Brand exists. He is talented and at least he cares, however naive or misguided he may come across. But his appearance tonight probably won him no new fans and may have actually aided ukip. As someone else said earlier he came across as someone who would far rather take moralistic potshots while still enjoying all the trappings of celebrity culture instead of knuckling to the hard graft of reading every detail of a draft bill. As I said earlier, shyster.
That was an outright lie. It completely undermines his integrity. Minus 10 for his pathetic performance.
I will say both my two sons had a good education in the state comprehensive system and both have good jobs now.
So its not all bad news.
Yep that sums it up perfectly, and is the same opinion of any rational mentally-balanced person.
Good summary PP.
er because he clearly doesn't but had toyed with the idea and realised it wont work.
Thing is don't you think its possible he was just nervous and overwhelmed? I sure would be. I know plenty of HIGHLY intelligent people who have very passionate opinions on things but when put on the spot on a panel like that, they would crumble.
The politicians have a strong agenda and are skilled in presenting their side of a debate. How many of them i wonder did go to great schools n take part in debating competitions! They may present what they say well but when you pick it apart, the heart of what they are saying is designed to say, "follow me"
russ isn't about that. He doesn't want to be a politician, he doesn't want to stand as leader, he's not got that agenda, he's not trying to get people on his side.
Well actually a large pool of labour helps to keep wages low,so he has a point.
Employers love it though.
I certainly will not be voting UKIP or the Conservatives.
I wish there was a party with more integrity than labour because I believe in voting.
The only problem is every pound shop and 99p shop is wholly staffed by Asians. So the appellation is not exactly apposite, is it?
Labour borrowed £50bn and we, the taxpayer, have to pay back £300bn.
Labour don't have to pay back a penny of any of their profligate waste.
No I agree. My daughter went to one and got a 1st class degree at uni.
Nigel was a bit weak in my opinion because he doesn't give proper answers and seems to just wan't to attack Labour a lot of the time. Also one thing i did agree with Russell on was UKIP are a nostalgic party pandering to older voters with a "in my day" mentality, i mean i can't think of any social progressive ideas on anything that UKIP would publicly support. Their record speaks for itself like how they opposed equal marriage and in their last manifesto wanted to take protections away from people in their jobs and limit your right to claim it was an unfair dismissal.