So - how the hell do you "nearly drown"

[Deleted User] · 23/11/10 - 21:39

...."a year and a half ago" - and now claim you've "never been underwater before"?

I guess we can add puddles to Gillian's "phobia list".

moomee · 23/11/10 - 21:43

That's what I thought, according to her daughter she fell out of a canoe & a rope was wrapped around her neck. If you're not underwater, not much need to panic - just free the rope!!

[Deleted User] · 23/11/10 - 21:43

Did'nt understand that myself. She sure is a stange one.

jjruss · 23/11/10 - 21:49

A very long time ago when I was 4..someone jumped on my head in Manchester Baths...I did nearly drown.. and still to this day 60 years later I can not put my head under water...

Marge · 23/11/10 - 22:14

jjruss wrote: »

A very long time ago when I was 4..someone jumped on my head in Manchester Baths...I did nearly drown.. and still to this day 60 years later I can not put my head under water...

Yes but Gillian's never been underwater

[Deleted User] · 23/11/10 - 22:25

Farmer Ted wrote: »

...."a year and a half ago" - and now claim you've "never been underwater before"?

I guess we can add puddles to Gillian's "phobia list".

That's a point... I forgot she said that

[Deleted User] · 23/11/10 - 22:29

moomee wrote: »

That's what I thought, according to her daughter she fell out of a canoe & a rope was wrapped around her neck....

.....just to make sure.

[Deleted User] · 23/11/10 - 22:30

yep puddles are on the list

guernseysnail · 23/11/10 - 22:32

moomee wrote: »

That's what I thought, according to her daughter she fell out of a canoe & a rope was wrapped around her neck. If you're not underwater, not much need to panic - just free the rope!!

Ah but was the canoe actually on water at the time?...:D:D

Abbasolutely 40 · 23/11/10 - 22:33

moomee wrote: »

That's what I thought, according to her daughter she fell out of a canoe & a rope was wrapped around her neck. If you're not underwater, not much need to panic - just free the rope!!

Was there a millstone attached to the rope , perchance ?

[Deleted User] · 23/11/10 - 22:35

Would someone who can't swim and has a phobia of water go canoeing though? Don't they teach you how to roll in a canoe if you capsize before you even go out in one ? Something very fishy about all this

[Deleted User] · 23/11/10 - 22:36

moomee wrote: »

That's what I thought, according to her daughter she fell out of a canoe & a rope was wrapped around her neck. If you're not underwater, not much need to panic - just free the rope!!

Why as she in a canoe in the water if she is *phobic about water as well?

* Stated tonight just before the trial by the woman herself.

Daisy Bennyboots · 23/11/10 - 22:36

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[Deleted User] · 23/11/10 - 22:44

Doctor Foster
Went to Gloucester
In a shower of rain.
He stepped in a puddle
Right up to his middle
And never went there again!

The Gillian version

Doctor Gillan
Went to the Jungle
To get 5 minutes of fame
She saw a fly, and a bit of water
Then fainted
Oh and she wasn't a proper Doctor anyway

Styker · 23/11/10 - 22:45

A bit of a stupid question OP.

Of course you can nearly drown or nearly most things, its why the term exists in the first place!

Nearly killed/nearly run over etc etc

[Deleted User] · 23/11/10 - 22:46

Styker wrote: »

A bit of a stupid question OP.

Of course you can nearly drown or nearly most things, its why the term exists in the first place!

Nearly killed/nearly run over etc etc

Read the full post - there was more to it

Styker · 23/11/10 - 23:13

KevInSweden wrote: »

Read the full post - there was more to it

I only did about a year of swimming lessons, once a week in my primary school days. Would only be able to do basic swimming at best, fell off a jet ski once, if I didn't wave for help when I did, the guy who letted us the jet ski would have just sat there in his dingi 500 yards away while the current would have swept me and my friend away.

i_am_a_gremlin · 23/11/10 - 23:15

bluntbob wrote: »

.....just to make sure.

you owe me a new laptop

[Deleted User] · 23/11/10 - 23:29

moomee wrote: »

That's what I thought, according to her daughter she fell out of a canoe & a rope was wrapped around her neck. If you're not underwater, not much need to panic - just free the rope!!

Not easy if there's an anvil attached to it

[Deleted User] · 24/11/10 - 00:33

Styker wrote: »

A bit of a stupid question OP.

I am sorry that my original post didn't meet your requirements, Styker.

Judging from your later response, you have actually had a bad experience with water, and I am sorry that you have experienced that. My point was that Gillian claimed to have "nearly drowned" previously, yet tonight claimed to have "never been underwater before". You may see the inconsistency in that statement, no?

I don't really know how to explain that more clearly to you, but thank you for the insult, regardless.

Jaggedcat · 24/11/10 - 00:43

I have a fear of deep water and I reckon it is because I am a poor swimmer but possibly because as a small child I dove into the local pool and came up at the deep end and panicked and had to be fished out. More recently I went down one of those flume thingys and the assistant said something about duck down when you are in but omitted to mention it was dark and the obvious water inside, I almost had a heart attack feeling trapped as I flew down the thing. Of course some wee boys whizzing behind me laughed and said , again as I was reduced almost to tears thinking never, never again. Fear of water should never be underestimated and even though you think you are over a traumatic event it can lurk.

Regarding nearly drowning you don't have to literally nearly drown underwater to experience the psychological effects of nearly drowning. Most of lifes
trials and tribulations are battled inside your own head and so no other person can fathom what you experience like you do.

walk in another's moccasins etc. and so on.

washboard · 24/11/10 - 00:48

Farmer Ted wrote: »

I am sorry that my original post didn't meet your requirements, Styker.

Judging from your later response, you have actually had a bad experience with water, and I am sorry that you have experienced that. My point was that Gillian claimed to have "nearly drowned" previously, yet tonight claimed to have "never been underwater before". You may see the inconsistency in that statement, no?

I don't really know how to explain that more clearly to you, but thank you for the insult, regardless.

To be fair, I can see the point that you're both making.

My son 'nearly drowned' once. And when I saw it happening, by God did I belie all my PE teachers' assessments about my inability to run!!

So, I can understand why people's memories are triggered by seeing the part question "How can you nearly drown...?".

I can also see the inconsistency you are pointing out in Gillian's stories:

if someone has "never been underwater before" how can they have been in a postion where they "nearly drowned"?

Good point. I wish someone would ask Gillian that question.

dodgygeeza · 24/11/10 - 01:55

washboard wrote: »

I can also see the inconsistency you are pointing out in Gillian's stories:

if someone has "never been underwater before" how can they have been in a postion where they "nearly drowned"?

Good point. I wish someone would ask Gillian that question.

That was the OP's point, not simply wether it's possible to nearly drown. No-one is questioning that on its own. She said during the Fisherman's Fiend trial that "I nearly drowned you know", and she's said that before. She also said during the same trial "That's the first time I've ever been underwater"

WHAT THE ****? LYING, VILE WOMAN!

What did she allegedly nearly drown in, mung bean soup?

washboard · 24/11/10 - 02:21

dodgygeeza wrote: »

That was the OP's point, not simply wether it's possible to nearly drown. QUOTE]

Um. Yes. I know.

That was my point too.

[to be absolutely clear about this - I agree with the point the OP was making]

To be equally clear

[I can't be bothered with spelling this out again - especially when the faux doctor is involved]

dodgygeeza · 24/11/10 - 02:31

Apologies, all a bit of a misunderstanding.

Bloody Gillian's wound me up and made me all argumentative :mad:

Jaggedcat · 24/11/10 - 02:52

washboard wrote: »

To be fair, I can see the point that you're both making.

My son 'nearly drowned' once. And when I saw it happening, by God did I belie all my PE teachers' assessments about my inability to run!!

So, I can understand why people's memories are triggered by seeing the part question "How can you nearly drown...?".

I can also see the inconsistency you are pointing out in Gillian's stories:

if someone has "never been underwater before" how can they have been in a postion where they "nearly drowned"?

Good point. I wish someone would ask Gillian that question.

It is called psychological fear and can be real or imagined and you do not have to have been under water to experience this. Remember we are all individuals and can only second guess how another person feels we have no idea what it is like for them if we simply compare to our own experiences we are simply making assumptions that can be very wrong.

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