Irresponsible corrie.

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Think the way they are portraying Alzhiemers is very irresponsible. Mainly because ppl who have relatives diagnosed with the ilness and worry that they will became a danger and violent "like the woman off of Corrie".

Corrie really does annoy me sometimes the way they get basic things wrong. Especially with law and court scenes.

Think i may stop watching.
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  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 10,163
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    They've got me fancying some cheese on toast. :)
  • 2shy20072shy2007 Posts: 52,579
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    No, no, dirty,dirty!
  • OldnjadedOldnjaded Posts: 89,126
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    wiseguy100 wrote: »
    Think the way they are portraying Alzhiemers is very irresponsible. Mainly because ppl who have relatives diagnosed with the ilness and worry that they will became a danger and violent "like the woman off of Corrie".

    Corrie really does annoy me sometimes the way they get basic things wrong. Especially with law and court scenes.

    Think i may stop watching.

    Sadly, people with Alzheimers very often become violent at times. What is irresponsible about portraying the reality? :confused:
  • glasgow67glasgow67 Posts: 6,287
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    Stop talking nonsence.

    Everytime I see someone having a Drink I think they might drink all night, turn into a junkie like Phil off Eastenders blah blah

    If people are daft enough to think TV is real life theyre beyond help to start with.
  • ScottHarrisScottHarris Posts: 2,753
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    wiseguy100 wrote: »
    Think the way they are portraying Alzhiemers is very irresponsible. Mainly because ppl who have relatives diagnosed with the ilness and worry that they will became a danger and violent "like the woman off of Corrie".

    Corrie really does annoy me sometimes the way they get basic things wrong. Especially with law and court scenes.

    Think i may stop watching.

    You should never have started watching it in the first place :D

    I think your a bit harsh saying it is irresponsible though , it is only tv after all.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 10,163
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    You should never have started watching it in the first place :D

    I think your a bit harsh saying it is irresponsible though , it is only tv after all.

    Having a TV is irresponsible full stop - stood there all shiny & whatnot.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,163
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    Oldnjaded wrote: »
    Sadly, people with Alzheimers very often become violent at times. What is irresponsible about portraying the reality? :confused:

    Its a misconception. Yes they can become occasionally violent borne from a frustration, but not as often or as ramped up as the Corrie writers and producers seem to think. Usually when soaps deal with an ilness it's usually more honest and shown properly. And they put a message at the end with a phone number etc. notice how this isn't happening with this storyline, because the producers know full well they are portraying it incorrectly.
  • PyramidbreadPyramidbread Posts: 10,448
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    Oh no! Corrie in a something on TV portrayed wrong shocker.
  • ScottHarrisScottHarris Posts: 2,753
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    wiseguy100 wrote: »
    Its a misconception. Yes they can become occasionally violent borne from a frustration, but not as often or as ramped up as the Corrie writers and producers seem to think. Usually when soaps deal with an ilness it's usually more honest and shown properly. And they put a message at the end with a phone number etc. notice how this isn't happening with this storyline, because the producers know full well they are portraying it incorrectly.

    Yeah i hate it when they do that , i can't believe people phone that number after watching a soap.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,163
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    Oh no! Corrie in a something on TV portrayed wrong shocker.

    Lowest form of wit.
  • OldnjadedOldnjaded Posts: 89,126
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    wiseguy100 wrote: »
    Its a misconception. Yes they can become occasionally violent borne from a frustration, but not as often or as ramped up as the Corrie writers and producers seem to think. Usually when soaps deal with an ilness it's usually more honest and shown properly. And they put a message at the end with a phone number etc. notice how this isn't happening with this storyline, because the producers know full well they are portraying it incorrectly.

    Pft. Tell that to my granddad and auntie. :(
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,679
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    I find the portrayal very realistic. Perhaps condensed but all teh behaviours shown are true to life in my experience. My MIL was often very violent throwing things, screaming, hitting anything near her, banging her head on walls and even once she put her fist through a window.
  • Irma BuntIrma Bunt Posts: 1,847
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    wiseguy100 wrote: »
    Think the way they are portraying Alzhiemers is very irresponsible. Mainly because ppl who have relatives diagnosed with the ilness and worry that they will became a danger and violent "like the woman off of Corrie".

    Corrie really does annoy me sometimes the way they get basic things wrong. Especially with law and court scenes.

    Think i may stop watching.

    Is this the same "irresponsible" storyline developed in consultation with the Alzheimers Society and endorsed and praised by the chairman of said society?
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,849
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    Irma Bunt wrote: »
    Is this the same "irresponsible" storyline developed in consultation with the Alzheimers Society and endorsed and praised by the chairman of said society?

    All 'issue' storylines are supposedly written in consulation with charities. That doesn't mean the writers actually bear what they've learned from the charity in mind when they write the scripts. Often the charity will criticise the soap in the press afterwards and I wouldn't be surprised if the Alzheimers Society did exactly that in the coming weeks.

    Surely people can't think that Lesley being conveniently killed to facilitate Eileen's future with this fireman bloke is actually a true to life portrayal of Alzheimer's.
  • davelovesleedsdavelovesleeds Posts: 22,593
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    A relative of mine has had Alzhiemers since Christmas and so far no sign of any violence.
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    A relative of mine has had Alzhiemers since Christmas and so far no sign of any violence.

    I really dont mean to be rude but give it time!!! It took 4 years for the violence to appear with my MIL. All the best of luck if you are doing any of the caring because believe me, you will need it!
  • 12december198412december1984 Posts: 1,033
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    JarkdeLuxe wrote: »
    All 'issue' storylines are supposedly written in consulation with charities. That doesn't mean the writers actually bear what they've learned from the charity in mind when they write the scripts. Often the charity will criticise the soap in the press afterwards and I wouldn't be surprised if the Alzheimers Society did exactly that in the coming weeks.

    Surely people can't think that Lesley being conveniently killed to facilitate Eileen's future with this fireman bloke is actually a true to life portrayal of Alzheimer's.

    Given the circumstances that lead to Lesley's untimely death I think that Eileen and Paul have a limited future together as Paul will blame Eileen for leaving Lesley alone.

    My Mum works in Mental Health and I asked her how 'realistic' the storyline was and she did say to me that it was spot on in some of the aspects portrayed.
  • priscillapriscilla Posts: 34,370
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    lesley has been a fantastic actress i dont know anyone personally who has suffered alzheimers but i think she has potrayed it well, its just the writing that has ruined it
  • davelovesleedsdavelovesleeds Posts: 22,593
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    NIKKID wrote: »
    I really dont mean to be rude but give it time!!! It took 4 years for the violence to appear with my MIL. All the best of luck if you are doing any of the caring because believe me, you will need it!

    Yes, thanks, fortunately the caring is being well shared and my next bit is next weekend but I take on board that it may take time to appear.

    It's still all so sad.
  • AntoniaAAntoniaA Posts: 6,640
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    People with Alzheimers vary, the woman in Corrie is not untypical. Please don't say, "....woman off OF Corrie", the "of" is not necessary.
    wiseguy100 wrote: »
    Think the way they are portraying Alzhiemers is very irresponsible. Mainly because ppl who have relatives diagnosed with the ilness and worry that they will became a danger and violent "like the woman off of Corrie".

    Corrie really does annoy me sometimes the way they get basic things wrong. Especially with law and court scenes.

    Think i may stop watching.
  • Irma BuntIrma Bunt Posts: 1,847
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    JarkdeLuxe wrote: »
    All 'issue' storylines are supposedly written in consulation with charities. That doesn't mean the writers actually bear what they've learned from the charity in mind when they write the scripts. Often the charity will criticise the soap in the press afterwards and I wouldn't be surprised if the Alzheimers Society did exactly that in the coming weeks.

    Surely people can't think that Lesley being conveniently killed to facilitate Eileen's future with this fireman bloke is actually a true to life portrayal of Alzheimer's.

    You're missing the point. The chair of the Alzheimer's Society has praised the storyline for highlighting a taboo aspect of the disease - how the partner of a sufferer can feel when the person they once loved has effectively gone and they meet someone else. If Paul had been a widower when Eileen met him, everyone on here would be cooing. But although Lesley wasn't dead, the woman Paul married was, in a sense.

    As for Lesley being "conveniently killed off" - Coronation Street is first and foremost a drama, not a public information film. Every conceivable aspect of the storyline has been explored. There was nowhere left to go except repetition. In reality, Lesley could have lived for years. But would viewers have wanted to see that? I wouldn't. So what was the alternative? To put her in a home? That would hardly be dramatic. And are we sure it's to keep Paul and Eileen together? Maybe it eventually splits them up? Goodness knows where it goes from here.

    Finally, you talk of a true to life portrayal. But what is that? Ask 100 relatives of sufferers and surely you'll hear 100 different experiences. All cases are different. This was just one possible version.
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    Irma Bunt wrote: »
    You're missing the point. The chair of the Alzheimer's Society has praised the storyline for highlighting a taboo aspect of the disease - how the partner of a sufferer can feel when the person they once loved has effectively gone and they meet someone else. If Paul had been a widower when Eileen met him, everyone on here would be cooing. But although Lesley wasn't dead, the woman Paul married was, in a sense.

    As for Lesley being "conveniently killed off" - Coronation Street is first and foremost a drama, not a public information film. Every conceivable aspect of the storyline has been explored. There was nowhere left to go except repetition. In reality, Lesley could have lived for years. But would viewers have wanted to see that? I wouldn't. So what was the alternative? To put her in a home? That would hardly be dramatic. And are we sure it's to keep Paul and Eileen together? Maybe it eventually splits them up? Goodness knows where it goes from here.

    Finally, you talk of a true to life portrayal. But what is that? Ask 100 relatives of sufferers and surely you'll hear 100 different experiences. All cases are different. This was just one possible version.
    Excellent post.
  • OldnjadedOldnjaded Posts: 89,126
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    Irma Bunt wrote: »
    You're missing the point. The chair of the Alzheimer's Society has praised the storyline for highlighting a taboo aspect of the disease - how the partner of a sufferer can feel when the person they once loved has effectively gone and they meet someone else. If Paul had been a widower when Eileen met him, everyone on here would be cooing. But although Lesley wasn't dead, the woman Paul married was, in a sense.

    As for Lesley being "conveniently killed off" - Coronation Street is first and foremost a drama, not a public information film. Every conceivable aspect of the storyline has been explored. There was nowhere left to go except repetition. In reality, Lesley could have lived for years. But would viewers have wanted to see that? I wouldn't. So what was the alternative? To put her in a home? That would hardly be dramatic. And are we sure it's to keep Paul and Eileen together? Maybe it eventually splits them up? Goodness knows where it goes from here.

    Finally, you talk of a true to life portrayal. But what is that? Ask 100 relatives of sufferers and surely you'll hear 100 different experiences. All cases are different. This was just one possible version.

    Good post, Irma. Totally agree. :)
  • Jimmy ConnorsJimmy Connors Posts: 117,813
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    I have looked after someone with Alzheimer's and I have to admit the portrayal of Leslie was pretty much spot on.

    Leslie wasn't even at the stage where she was unmanageable yet.

    Every sufferer is different, but I saw a lot of similarities between Leslie and my relative - who is now free from this terrible disease.
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    AntoniaA wrote: »
    People with Alzheimers vary, the woman in Corrie is not untypical. Please don't say, "....woman off OF Corrie", the "of" is not necessary.

    The fact i put it in speechmarks should've been obvious that i was imitating people that use "off of".

    Btw, what perks and benefits do you get from being in the grammar police?
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