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The Grand National - Cruel ?

late8late8 Posts: 7,175
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Yet again more horses have gone down at the GN. Two fences "bypassed" as a horse laid dead and another screened off by vets mid race.

I wont go into details of what kind of scene it is when a race horse is down with a broken neck, legs or puncture wound but It seems to me they push it too far.
Personally I always think the fences are way too high.
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    VioletSummersVioletSummers Posts: 1,363
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    I do think that horse racing is cruel to the horses but however animals are kept there is always the risk of injury. Obviously racing in the GN increases the risk of injury. It's a real shame about the horse you've said died. :(
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    late8late8 Posts: 7,175
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    VioletSummers wrote: »
    I do think that horse racing is cruel to the horses but however animals are kept there is always the risk of injury. Obviously racing in the GN increases the risk of injury. It's a real shame about the horse you've said died. :(

    think its two now - the winner didn't look good either.
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    Miriams SisterMiriams Sister Posts: 7,967
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    I feel sad now - hope those horses weren't one of the ones we betted on, poor things.:cry:
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    VioletSummersVioletSummers Posts: 1,363
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    late8 wrote: »
    think its two now - the winner didn't look good either.

    I did think that something was wrong with that horse. Just a lot of fuss over it, more than I think is usual.
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    petra12petra12 Posts: 1,549
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    I feel sick now , i really do its just to cruel !
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 9,455
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    It is nasty putting the horses through all that. Definitely should be banned.
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    Vodka_DrinkaVodka_Drinka Posts: 28,753
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    I didn't see the dead horses, but my mum says she saw three lying dead?:( I'm in two minds, on one side my cousin is a jockey and I know how racehorses are treated better than some people, But when you see things like that it is cruel.
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    billlythekidbilllythekid Posts: 5,080
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    Won't somebody please think of the horses :(
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 25,366
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    petra12 wrote: »
    I feel sick now , i really do its just to cruel !

    Did you watch it?
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    fredsterfredster Posts: 31,802
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    Confusing wrote: »
    It is nasty putting the horses through all that. Definitely should be banned.

    That poor horse is de-hydrated, I hope he is ok. Too hot for them and the jockey was using the whip. I hate it.
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    Alt-F4Alt-F4 Posts: 10,960
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    Must be a harrowing experience for you. It would only affect me if I'd placed a bet on it.
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    late8late8 Posts: 7,175
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    The winner is OK .....


    - apart from its very dehydrated and hot so was sent to the stable for water and oxygen.:eek::rolleyes:

    No mention of the other horses that didn't make it- as normal its brushed aside.
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    PorcupinePorcupine Posts: 25,250
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    fredster wrote: »
    That poor horse is de-hydrated, I hope he is ok. Too hot for them and the jockey was using the whip. I hate it.

    So you watched it then, even though you hate it ?
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    Vodka_DrinkaVodka_Drinka Posts: 28,753
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    The BBC don't seem to be reporting even though loads of people saw it. Would imagine it's quite upsetting for children watching.
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    ArtymagsArtymags Posts: 18,136
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    It's the same horror stories year after year - and still nothing has been done.

    it's all down to money in the end isn't it?
    The Grand National is big business. There are millions involved for the racehorse owners, the organisers, the bookies etc. There are very powerful people at the top who won't allow all that revenue to disappear just because it's cruel.
    They don't care about the horses. All they care about is making money and they'll never allow it to stop. :mad:
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    petra12petra12 Posts: 1,549
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    Gilbertoo wrote: »
    Did you watch it?
    Hubby got it on i am on here ! he is trying tell me what is happening and i am like NO dont want know !:(
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    Biffo the BearBiffo the Bear Posts: 25,859
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    They should lower the fences by 50% and ban the use of the whip.
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    TenpeTenpe Posts: 1,508
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    6th fence. Beechers Brook seems to be the one's everyone is talking about. There seemed to be three horses which didn't get up. They should lower the height of the fences, I believe
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    YuffieYuffie Posts: 9,864
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    They should wrap the horses up in cotton wool and never race them again for fear that they might get hurt !
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    Arthur.CrumbleArthur.Crumble Posts: 932
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    IF only these Horses had been shot through the head with a steel bolt in a homely abbatoir..
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    Vodka_DrinkaVodka_Drinka Posts: 28,753
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    Tenpe wrote: »
    6th fence. Beechers Brook seems to be the one's everyone is talking about. There seemed to be three horses which didn't get up. They should lower the height of the fences, I believe

    They bypassed Bechers the second time which I thought was odd, but my mum says you could actually see the horse covered over:(
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    AzagothAzagoth Posts: 10,169
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    The Grand National, sponsored by Bostik.
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    solaresolare Posts: 11,601
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    Yes - absolutely it is cruel. :mad: :mad: :mad:

    The people who support it care about nothing but money.

    http://www.horsedeathwatch.com/
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    Pisces CloudPisces Cloud Posts: 30,239
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    Biffo the Bear wrote: »
    They should lower the fences by 50% and ban the use of the whip.

    Indeed. Don't know why they have to be so high, anyway.
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    late8late8 Posts: 7,175
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    Vodka_Drinka wrote: »
    They bypassed Bechers the second time which I thought was odd, but my mum says you could actually see the horse covered over:(

    yes It broke its neck.

    Another that was down suffered multiple hits in the face and was out cold.

    If you watch a lot of the time the fall onto the head and the neck bends under the horse- some get op - some don't.
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