Maybe they shouldn't be advertising arrests, if they are not imminent it could give people chance to skip the country if they are guilty and want to avoid arrest.
I would have thought airports, ports etc. would be 'aware' of such persons given the current climate and media coverage.
Chief Constable of West West Yorkshire has RESIGNED - not retired............interesting.
He says his position was making the day to day policing impossible due to the Hillsbororugh investgation.............could it have something to do with Savile as well ?
OK, here's Tom Watson's quote...
“The evidence file used to convict paedophile Peter Righton, if it still exists, contains clear intelligence of a widespread paedophile ring. One of its members boasts of its links to a senior aide of a former Prime minister who says he could smuggle indecent images of children from abroad.”
“The leads were not followed up but if the file still exists, I want to ensure that the Metropolitan Police secure the evidence, re-examine it, and investigate clear intelligence suggesting a powerful paedophile network linked to Parliament and Number 10.”
So, he didn't actually suggest involvement of an ex-PM afterall, that will teach me for only having it on the background whilst working on the PC.
ETA: He was referring to Sir Peter Morrison, not Ted Heath....
EDWINA CURRIE, the former Conservative minister, has claimed that a leading Tory MP during Margaret Thatcher’s era had sex with underage boys — and senior party members had covered up for him.
Currie, 66, said this weekend she had heard that Sir Peter Morrison, Thatcher’s parliamentary private secretary and deputy chairman of the party, had sex with 16-year-old boys when the age of consent was 21.
“Was he doing anything illegal? Almost certainly. Would it be illegal today? Hard to tell now the age of consent is down to 16,” she said.
Morrison had been in charge of Thatcher’s disastrous leadership campaign team in 1990 when she lost power. He died aged 51 in 1995.
It's no wonder Cameron looked uncomfortable as he was working at the Conservative Research Department in Conservative Central Office when this was going on between 1988-1993.
Interesting to see that Derek Laud who also worked at Conservative Central Office at that time may be a friend of Edwina Currie's, both appeared together on Who Wants to be a Millionaire.
Sandy Toksvig on Radio 5 live in 2 mins - Ive emailed a question in to see if she would be prepared to name the celebrity who groped her that she alleged last week.
This is pretty shocking (NHS advice to 13+ year-olds regarding sex from a new mobile phone application):
"Incredibly, on bestiality, the advice is that while ‘sex with animals is illegal, fantasising is not’. Norman Wells, spokesman for the Family Education Trust, said: ‘Parents will be appalled health professionals have supported the development of a resource that condones sexual experimentation by young people and uses crude and sometimes even foul language."
"The site’s ‘experts’, meanwhile, suggest young children might want to put off speaking to their parents about sex in case the subject upsets the parents."
Sandy Toksvig on Radio 5 live in 2 mins - Ive emailed a question in to see if she would be prepared to name the celebrity who groped her that she alleged last week.
This is pretty shocking (NHS advice to 13+ year-olds regarding sex from a new mobile phone application):
"Incredibly, on bestiality, the advice is that while ‘sex with animals is illegal, fantasising is not’. Norman Wells, spokesman for the Family Education Trust, said: ‘Parents will be appalled health professionals have supported the development of a resource that condones sexual experimentation by young people and uses crude and sometimes even foul language."
"The site’s ‘experts’, meanwhile, suggest young children might want to put off speaking to their parents about sex in case the subject upsets the parents."
It does appear so at first glance and I could not see Bestiality as a prominent link, mind you I did have to smile when I did a search for it under their FAQ seemed a bit of a bizarre response
Sex with animals is illegal (bestiality) as they can not consent. So is racism.
I would have thought bestiality was illegal as it is plain wrong and a different species not just because a sheep cannot say yes please. And what does bestiality have to do with racism ?
well she did mention it - and said she would NEVER name the person ! Then why mention it ?
Dave
She said she would not name him, because she wished to accord him more dignity than he accorded her. She says she mentioned it in passing on the Andrew Marr show when the Savile issue came up, but is keen to make it clear that it falls under the sexual harassment category rather than abuse, and that this, she says, is not a BBC problem, but a society-wide problem. I can see her point.
NSPCC seem to highlighting the sexual abuse of young women with the actions of Savile Scandal emerges.
I think we are distracting away from the issue of Jimmy Savile now. More people are focusing on BBC Director General etc and not really the whole picture.
It does appear so at first glance and I could not see Bestiality as a prominent link, mind you I did have to smile when I did a search for it under their FAQ seemed a bit of a bizarre response
Sex with animals is illegal (bestiality) as they can not consent. So is racism.
I would have thought bestiality was illegal as it is plain wrong and a different species not just because a sheep cannot say yes please. And what does bestiality have to do with racism ?
She said she would not name him, because she wished to accord him more dignity than he accorded her. She says she mentioned it in passing on the Andrew Marr show when the Savile issue came up, but is keen to make it clear that it falls under the sexual harassment category rather than abuse, and that this, she says, is not a BBC problem, but a society-wide problem. I can see her point.
Doesn't matter what catagory it comes under ..it's wrong and by naming him it would stop it happening to other females..can she not see that?
She said she would not name him, because she wished to accord him more dignity than he accorded her. She says she mentioned it in passing on the Andrew Marr show when the Savile issue came up, but is keen to make it clear that it falls under the sexual harassment category rather than abuse, and that this, she says, is not a BBC problem, but a society-wide problem. I can see her point.
Me too. Her point was to do with the culture that condoned it, not the individual concerned.
It does appear so at first glance and I could not see Bestiality as a prominent link, mind you I did have to smile when I did a search for it under their FAQ seemed a bit of a bizarre response
Sex with animals is illegal (bestiality) as they can not consent. So is racism.
I would have thought bestiality was illegal as it is plain wrong and a different species not just because a sheep cannot say yes please. And what does bestiality have to do with racism ?
I know I shouldn't but:D:D what a very funny answer, they could have also dropped in that it is against the law to murder someone too;)
Finally some constructive ideas and at least discusion about improving systems and procedures rather than concentrating on people.
I think referring he said / she said cases or ones where victims are unwilling to go through the trauma of a court appearance to social services and keeping a register of accusations - hopefully with the police, social services and relevent authorities who would look at such things as vetting individuals for responsible positions is a good idea.
It does appear so at first glance and I could not see Bestiality as a prominent link, mind you I did have to smile when I did a search for it under their FAQ seemed a bit of a bizarre response
Sex with animals is illegal (bestiality) as they can not consent. So is racism.
I would have thought bestiality was illegal as it is plain wrong and a different species not just because a sheep cannot say yes please. And what does bestiality have to do with racism ?
I can't find the bit regarding fantasising about bestiality being fine either. It was either removed after that MP complained - or the DM completely made it up.
Doesn't matter what catagory it comes under ..it's wrong and by naming him it would stop it happening to other females..can she not see that?
I think that should always be very much a matter for the individual... tricky to take an absolute position here, because then you have to ask whether you criticise abuse victims of Savile for not coming out and naming him in public...
This is from the Sextionary - and they say this site may be suitable for prepubescent children requiring info. Too much info for my liking!
"Analingus
More commonly known as rimming – involves licking a partner’s bum hole. Sounds disgusting, but can feel nice (lots of nerve endings there) but make sure they have good personal hygiene – for safety use dental dams.
I wouldn't want my prepubescent children reading this. Why would they need to know about this?
EDIT: In fact it says 'children experiencing puberty' - but even so, I started my periods aged 10 (as many girls do nowadays, apparently) and would have had no need to know about 'rimming' at that age.
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I would have thought airports, ports etc. would be 'aware' of such persons given the current climate and media coverage.
He says his position was making the day to day policing impossible due to the Hillsbororugh investgation.............could it have something to do with Savile as well ?
Dave
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/24/jimmy-savile-bbc-story-so-far
http://www.bbc.co.uk/5live/webcam/videocam/
Dave
I didn't realise we had already had some arrests - or is this just Williams-Thomas being grammatically incorrect?
Exactly there have been none , that we have been told of anyway, and the other actor in the media as being charged is unconnected with this case.
"Incredibly, on bestiality, the advice is that while ‘sex with animals is illegal, fantasising is not’. Norman Wells, spokesman for the Family Education Trust, said: ‘Parents will be appalled health professionals have supported the development of a resource that condones sexual experimentation by young people and uses crude and sometimes even foul language."
"The site’s ‘experts’, meanwhile, suggest young children might want to put off speaking to their parents about sex in case the subject upsets the parents."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2221809/NHS-phone-app-features-extraordinarily-explicit-sex-tips-children-young-13.html
well she did mention it - and said she would NEVER name the person ! Then why mention it ?
Dave
Looks very educational.
http://www.respectyourself.info/
Actually, he may not have been referring to Peter Morrison, according to the Birmingham Mail:
http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories/2012/10/24/child-abuse-network-reached-into-10-downing-street-mp-tom-watson-tells-stunned-house-of-commons-97319-32096563/
It does appear so at first glance and I could not see Bestiality as a prominent link, mind you I did have to smile when I did a search for it under their FAQ seemed a bit of a bizarre response
http://www.respectyourself.info/?s=bestiality&submit=Search
Do Welsh people have to shag sheep?
Sex with animals is illegal (bestiality) as they can not consent. So is racism.
I would have thought bestiality was illegal as it is plain wrong and a different species not just because a sheep cannot say yes please. And what does bestiality have to do with racism ?
She said she would not name him, because she wished to accord him more dignity than he accorded her. She says she mentioned it in passing on the Andrew Marr show when the Savile issue came up, but is keen to make it clear that it falls under the sexual harassment category rather than abuse, and that this, she says, is not a BBC problem, but a society-wide problem. I can see her point.
I think we are distracting away from the issue of Jimmy Savile now. More people are focusing on BBC Director General etc and not really the whole picture.
It's the fact people say it about Welsh people.
Me too. Her point was to do with the culture that condoned it, not the individual concerned.
I know I shouldn't but:D:D what a very funny answer, they could have also dropped in that it is against the law to murder someone too;)
I think referring he said / she said cases or ones where victims are unwilling to go through the trauma of a court appearance to social services and keeping a register of accusations - hopefully with the police, social services and relevent authorities who would look at such things as vetting individuals for responsible positions is a good idea.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/oct/24/jimmy-savile-dpp-2009-evidence
I can't find the bit regarding fantasising about bestiality being fine either. It was either removed after that MP complained - or the DM completely made it up.
I think that should always be very much a matter for the individual... tricky to take an absolute position here, because then you have to ask whether you criticise abuse victims of Savile for not coming out and naming him in public...
"Analingus
More commonly known as rimming – involves licking a partner’s bum hole. Sounds disgusting, but can feel nice (lots of nerve endings there) but make sure they have good personal hygiene – for safety use dental dams.
ALSO KNOWN AS:
Rimming"
http://www.respectyourself.info/sextionary/sextionary-index/#A
I wouldn't want my prepubescent children reading this. Why would they need to know about this?
EDIT: In fact it says 'children experiencing puberty' - but even so, I started my periods aged 10 (as many girls do nowadays, apparently) and would have had no need to know about 'rimming' at that age.