I was drawn to google "dunblane conspiracy" by someone and it left me cold. Not sure how true it is but why would a convicted paedophile be able to obtain guns and those gun licenses sponsored by fellow mason/friend and Labour peer. Shocking
Over the last few weeks I have been left stunned by what I have read regarding this case and others, Dunblane included.
At one point I needed to take 'time out' as I found the information overwhelming, to the point of sickening - I had never considered myself naive but I sure as hell realised I had been. I found, once you go beyond the 'how the hell' ... and start trying to find answers you realise so so much has been 'kept' from public consumption.
Fortunately the web allows people to see, research and learn for themselves - sometimes amusing when an individual claims never to have owned a Rolls Royce and within no time that claim is proven to be false!
If being a Freemason could result in people being helpful, it stands to reason that knowing one or two very well (and/or having dirt on them) might prove just as helpful.
I was told when asking about my gramps that if I contacted his local lodge I might be able to see yearbooks (so I could see what position he held). I didn't try so they may not be helpful, but it might be worth asking lodges in his area. After all the stuff I've read, including that written by Nick Davies, I think the Inquiry should be a Mason-free zone.
A convicted paedophile would not under any circumstances be a freemason. Any conviction past a driving offence is pretty much automatic expulsion.
So, to put it another way, once you are in the freemasons, if you are an important member, there is a vested interest in not having you convicted of any offence past driving?
Interesting. Has any high-level mason ever been convicted, for example, of paedophilia?
My mum worked for some masons and they used to laugh and joke at speeding (ridiculous speeds in a 30mph zone that was often monitored by the police) and that they'd never be touched for it...
In my opinion it suited Savile to have people believe that he was a Freemason but I have it on excellent authority that he wasn't at the time of his death nor had he ever been one ,
I can believe that. I also believe he was involved with other powerful vested-interest groups though, definitely, some of whom will undoubtedly have been high-level masons.
Over the last few weeks I have been left stunned by what I have read regarding this case and others, Dunblane included.
At one point I needed to take 'time out' as I found the information overwhelming, to the point of sickening - I had never considered myself naive but I sure as hell realised I had been. I found, once you go beyond the 'how the hell' ... and start trying to find answers you realise so so much has been 'kept' from public consumption.
Fortunately the web allows people to see, research and learn for themselves - sometimes amusing when an individual claims never to have owned a Rolls Royce and within no time that claim is proven to be false!
I am babbling ..... need more tea!
I feel I have almost reached that point myself. It is so very, very depressing. I need to try to take a break I think, but it is hard when things are unravelling so fast.
No-one sued him yet though - as far as I'm aware - and someone else pointed out that the whole lizard thing might just be a cunning ploy so he can plead insanity if they do.
Could they pronounce him sane based on his claims? Surely he'd be classified as delusional at the very least?
Fortunately the web allows people to see, research and learn for themselves - sometimes amusing when an individual claims never to have owned a Rolls Royce and within no time that claim is proven to be false!
I am babbling ..... need more tea!
The Rolls Royce owner isn't the person who's been named.
Over the last few weeks I have been left stunned by what I have read regarding this case and others, Dunblane included.
At one point I needed to take 'time out' as I found the information overwhelming, to the point of sickening - I had never considered myself naive but I sure as hell realised I had been. I found, once you go beyond the 'how the hell' ... and start trying to find answers you realise so so much has been 'kept' from public consumption.
Fortunately the web allows people to see, research and learn for themselves - sometimes amusing when an individual claims never to have owned a Rolls Royce and within no time that claim is proven to be false!
No-one sued him yet though - as far as I'm aware - and someone else pointed out that the whole lizard thing might just be a cunning ploy so he can plead insanity if they do.
Could they pronounce him sane based on his claims? Surely he'd be classified as delusional at the very least?
I doubt anybody could pronounce him sane. I haven't heard anything about the lizard theory being a ploy but I doubt this was a ploy
I doubt the last one too I think it is just rumour and nastiness conflating homosexuality or bisexuality with paedophilia. However, I also think that most people can understand that so unsubstantiated rumour doesn't do as much damage as some celebs claim. Look how JS managed to survive 50 years of rumours about his perving.
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Over the last few weeks I have been left stunned by what I have read regarding this case and others, Dunblane included.
At one point I needed to take 'time out' as I found the information overwhelming, to the point of sickening - I had never considered myself naive but I sure as hell realised I had been. I found, once you go beyond the 'how the hell' ... and start trying to find answers you realise so so much has been 'kept' from public consumption.
Fortunately the web allows people to see, research and learn for themselves - sometimes amusing when an individual claims never to have owned a Rolls Royce and within no time that claim is proven to be false!
I am babbling ..... need more tea!
I was told when asking about my gramps that if I contacted his local lodge I might be able to see yearbooks (so I could see what position he held). I didn't try so they may not be helpful, but it might be worth asking lodges in his area. After all the stuff I've read, including that written by Nick Davies, I think the Inquiry should be a Mason-free zone.
Indeed.
I will take a good look at that, thanks.
So, to put it another way, once you are in the freemasons, if you are an important member, there is a vested interest in not having you convicted of any offence past driving?
Interesting. Has any high-level mason ever been convicted, for example, of paedophilia?
My mum worked for some masons and they used to laugh and joke at speeding (ridiculous speeds in a 30mph zone that was often monitored by the police) and that they'd never be touched for it...
I can believe that. I also believe he was involved with other powerful vested-interest groups though, definitely, some of whom will undoubtedly have been high-level masons.
I feel I have almost reached that point myself. It is so very, very depressing. I need to try to take a break I think, but it is hard when things are unravelling so fast.
He better keep his cheque book handy lol
Yes, Cameron's expression is priceless.
it came across to me like a forced attempt to look very concerned indeed about such an outlandish revelation!
And it's just the beginning...
Think he's just posting what's widley being circulated. Those names crop up again and again.
Not sure what the evidence is beyond Scallywag magazine for a couple of them.
The name I have heard from quite good authority is not on his list.
I heard that whilst in the car and had to pull over. It's absolutely harrowing and incredibly sad.
No-one sued him yet though - as far as I'm aware - and someone else pointed out that the whole lizard thing might just be a cunning ploy so he can plead insanity if they do.
Could they pronounce him sane based on his claims? Surely he'd be classified as delusional at the very least?
IMO too. He's not helping by giving names without any firm evidence.
There isn't one. It just keeps the conspiracy theorists happy.
The Rolls Royce owner isn't the person who's been named.
It's his brother who has a collection of them.
I doubt anybody could pronounce him sane. I haven't heard anything about the lizard theory being a ploy but I doubt this was a ploy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiyrHZCksDM
(Icke had a breakdown.Wogan's being mean, of course.)
Lizards!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udyqHVPcw5s&feature=endscreen
No it's not true. Their age is the same at italy's - 14, or 16 in special circumstances. The lowest age in Europe is Spain at 13.
http://www.tpuc.org/node/34
Scroll down a bit, but it's all good stuff.
The last one seems unlikely seeing as he has been publically commenting on the Saville case for the last few weeks.
No words . . .