OPERATION UNDERDOG - Starts Right here!
Kolin Klingon
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Yes it has come to pass that the sex god Luke is in the final.
Vote, Vote, Vote, Vote, Vote, and Vote again to get Matt the prat out first and support your Olympic Underdog over errr ummm what is it that Matt the prat does again that is of any use and is not making his country proud?
Let's put a smile on our cheeky Crappie's face.
Vote, Vote, Vote, Vote, Vote, and Vote again to get Matt the prat out first and support your Olympic Underdog over errr ummm what is it that Matt the prat does again that is of any use and is not making his country proud?
Let's put a smile on our cheeky Crappie's face.
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I wouldn't say he was that bad.
In Kolin's dreams he does...
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It will! The public just don't like Matt the prat and he will be out first.
The public finally speaks after the Judge's gagging order.
I wonder if they'll add 'winner of Dancing on Ice 2013' on to the bus that has his picture on
The non skating always lifted/ carried Bonnie who could do no wrong in the judges eyes, was dumped out first in no uncertain terms.....
The same thing could happen to Matt this time round.
It is about the celeb not the pro I don't believe that Matt should win as I don't believe he is all that great but why should Beth have to lose out because Dan has won the show before it is not about the pro it is about the celeb.
Plus personally I don't think Luke is of a good enough standard to win and fair enough we don't know if he would have been in the skate off but think he is extremely lucky to have got to the final the way he has.
It's not just a bias in terms of 'fairness' that makes people want different pros to be showcased by ensuring some kind of level playing field in the allocation of celebrities. It's about ensuring viewer variety - particularly on SCD where the pro input is that much greater and the quality of routine is dependent on their inventiveness and teaching ability as much as on the celeb's skills. By relegating some pros to the status of 'prop for the duffer' you under-utilise their skills and end up with televisual porridge - same old same old.
Once they've been allocated then I agree I don't think it's fair to say 'X celeb shouldn't win because their pro has before', but equally I don't see why certain pros seem to get viable competitors year in, year out where others just don't (yes Brianne, I mean YOU). And that's particularly true on DOI, where T&D skills test everyone to get an idea of their talents.
Luke must know he's lucky and now has absolutely bog-all to lose, whereas the other two will be gritting their teeth to be edge-perfect. I doubt he'll win once the final voters start picking up their handsets, but I hope he does himself justice on the night.
But it's not about the pros ,it's about the celebs. No way Luke to win - he's only in the semi because Gareth was ill, and I'd have had him out weeks ago.
But it's a partnership, it's Beth AND DAN not just Beth.
Whos to say Luke would have been in the skate off?
It's so much of a partnership that when they announce the winner they only announce the celebs name not the pro so as far as the show is concerned it is about the celeb.
Again I still see no reason why a celeb should be discounted just because their pro has won before if you did that you would have some seriously useless celebs winning just so that a different pro could lift the title.
If you don't want the same pros winning then you would have to change pros every year and then you would have even more people moaning because of lack of consistency with the pro skaters and you don't get to know them etc etc.
Also no I don't think just because a pro has done well they should be saddled with a duff the next year in skating it is not as simple as that as there are factors that need taken into account when sorting partnerships however it does seem that Brianne in particular has been favoured somewhat and had a particulary good run of especially good people in the short time she has been in the show.
Maybe because as someone posted in another thread last night Dan seems to have the ability to connect with his partners and to get the best out of them regardless of how good or bad they are and the public like to see a genuine connection between the celeb and the pro. Usually you can tell when a pro and celeb don't get on so well as it tends to show in the performance. There has never been that with Dan he always seems to form genuine friendships and that is something the public like to see along with the learning to skate of course.
I think in series 1 Dan was lucky in that a lot of people still seemed to be annoyed by Bonnie from what she did previously and by the fact that she was the queen of lifts and pretty much started the whole thing of all the tricks rather than skating.
Gaynor in her own right was popular she was on Corrie, Fat Friends etc and as I said in another thread in the first series no real standard had been set and her skating although basic was clean and elegant and she had a great connection with Dan and it seems Dan is a good choreographer so came up with a fab bolero. Also you cannot argue any pre existing fanbases or Dan alone for series one as he was not really known to anyone at that point.
Jennifer actually had the potential to be a really good skater I think she lost a lot of confidence following the injury Dan sustained before the first show and her subsequent rib injury and then kicking herself in the head I think all of those knocked her down and I don't think she ever really got over it and didn't perform as well as I think she was capable of but IMO she on her own merit deserved to get to the semi final not because of Dan but because she was not that poor a skater she was certainly better than a lot of others who have gotten that far (Coleen being the most notorious IMO). Jen also would have had a large pre existing fanbase of her own as well
Kerry is the only one I may concede on as she was poor but I think although the Dan factor may have got her so far I think it was the fact that people were waiting for the "car crash" to happen and for her to have a meltdown which never happened so they kept voting to see what would happen. I also guess there are Kerry fans out there who would have wanted to see her continue in the show. I am a Dan fa
So I don't think it is fair to simply say Dan is the reason they all got so far.
Do we know for certain that Luke was in the B2?