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Elaine visiting Dean in the Toilet
The Rhydler
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Not sure if this has come up on here yet, but I was absolutely disgusted to see Elaine walk into the Gents loo, talk to Dean as he urinated, looked at and commented upon his genitals and then threatened to remove them. I know he's a rapist, bad guy, etc etc, but at this point, she isn't aware of that.
A few weeks ago, Shirley walked into the Gents loo also to have a go at Ben. Can you IMAGINE if a male character walked in on a female one squatting down on the loo and commented on her vagina? OUTRAGE.
And if you believe the female characters of EastEnders, every single male character in the show has an undersized appendage, begs the question as to why they are continuing a relationship with a man who cannot satisfy them and why they only comment upon it when they have been dumped. Why does there have to be so much dialogue like that, and nothing about womens parts that isn't then suggested to be disgustingly sexist.
EE helps to perpetuate sexism against men.
A few weeks ago, Shirley walked into the Gents loo also to have a go at Ben. Can you IMAGINE if a male character walked in on a female one squatting down on the loo and commented on her vagina? OUTRAGE.
And if you believe the female characters of EastEnders, every single male character in the show has an undersized appendage, begs the question as to why they are continuing a relationship with a man who cannot satisfy them and why they only comment upon it when they have been dumped. Why does there have to be so much dialogue like that, and nothing about womens parts that isn't then suggested to be disgustingly sexist.
EE helps to perpetuate sexism against men.
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I think in this instance though, we know Dean is a rapist. So the writers probably didn't feel they had to give him any common decency. Plus, all we've seen is Linda in pain and Dean swanning about like he just got laid, so maybe the writers thought it was high time Dean was seen to have something horrible and uncomfortable happen to him.
Besides, you never hear any comments by male characters about the size of breasts? I never have.
Phil's comment about lovemaking didnt reference any particular part of the body did it?
Men do comment on the size and quality of a woman's breasts in exactly the same way as women comment on the size of a man's penis. This is why there is so much insecurity around these parts of the body, and cosmetic surgeons are the wealthiest doctors in the country. I have never heard anyone commenting on the size of a woman's vagina.
We have seen men following women into toilets before....Darren with Heather, where they ended up having sex, and Arthur and Denise where they ended up snogging.
Yes, but are the female characters actually urinating? No. Dean was actually pissing during the scene!
Elaine doesn't know he is a rapist but does think something is going on with Linda, she wants to protect her daughter so I guess that's why she did what she did.
I do get what you're saying to an extent. But I still think that was a far less humiliating scene than some I've seen on the show, after all no one really believes that Matt has a tiny penis. Most recently that cruel remark Phil made to Shirley hit me as far worse...he may not have spelt it out but we all knew what he was talking about, and his words invited the more shallow section of the audience to laugh along.
Not to be pedantic but he actually started urinating after she had left.
In the words of Dot "oh I say!"
Max and Stacey were trapped in a cubicle in the ladies while Sean flirted with Tanya outside that cubicle and asked Stacey for money, which Max gave him in the end.
Zoe told Kat about Den in the men's room.
Ian burst into the ladies when he was on the verge of bankruptcy.
Sean made a move on Tanya in the ladies.
It was probably the only place where Elaine could confront Dean on his own.
Why?
Wasn't Tosh peeing in scenes a few months ago when she overheard Bianca and Sonia talking about Tina and Sonia's kiss? Even got the duff duff ;-)
Yes, but the writing never uses derogatory language regarding female genitalia...why?
There should be no risk of women coming into the mens toilets anyway...as they aren't allowed in there.
I think Ian calling Whitney a walking STD certainly referred to the condition of her genitalia.
I can't see any pre-watershed tv show using a reference to female genitalia. Elaine and other characters have made reference to male characters having small penises. The only equivalent the male characters could use is to say the women have wizard sleeves and I can't see that being allowed at 7.30 in the evening:D
They could get away with the men saying the women are small breasted. I think that's the best you can hope for:p