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Hiya,
not sure if this is the right place to post this, or if it has already been posted......
I live in Scotland and there doesn't appear to be an ITV1 +1 channel yet on sky. I had a wee look through google and it should be on channel 131 but it just flashes up as being unavailable.
I don't see why sky, or Scotland, would be any different to everything else....
Any ideas?
not sure if this is the right place to post this, or if it has already been posted......
I live in Scotland and there doesn't appear to be an ITV1 +1 channel yet on sky. I had a wee look through google and it should be on channel 131 but it just flashes up as being unavailable.
I don't see why sky, or Scotland, would be any different to everything else....
Any ideas?
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Yep, STV haven't agreed a carriage deal with Sky so it's not available on the Sky EPG.
I assume the same is true for Northern Ireland, as I'm also getting channel unavailable.
UTV +1 ? Yep, same problem!
I am fair disappinted with that, was really looking forward to watching stuff an hour later
Nothing to do with Sky. They will be offering STV+1 the same deal as ITV+1 or any other operator to be on the epg. Better ask STV why they aren't on. They are not on freesat either even though again they could be if they wanted to.
i only use FSFS With a old bluecard and that has 131 ITV+1 YORK TT
i use the 131 epg to remind me of programmes i want to watch & watch it via
add chnnels 10.906 V 22.0 5/6 ITV+1 Gra Bdr
strange thing is my other box without a card in the kitchen gets a picture ok on 131
ITV+1 London
Take the blue card out and reboot the box - the only thing its doing now is regionalising the epg.
Not doubting you but do you have a link or any evidence to support those statements. If, for example they have paid Freesat for epg space why are they not on their epg. On what basis are Sky refusing to allow STV HD or STV +1 epg space without encryption (when ITV 1 HD and ITV +1 are unencrypted). They would simply go on 178 and 131 in Scotland same as ITV1 HD and ITV 1 + 1 does in England and Wales.
There's no such excuse for 'STV HD' though.
stv HD is being broadcast on a BSkyB transponder, so a lack of EPG listing is down to $ky alone. Rumours suggest that $ky wanted it to be encrypted but stv refused as this deprives them of Freesat availability. So $ky won't allow them on its EPG although stv HD is being broadcast FTA. Assuming it has been $ky hub conformed it could appear on Freesat but would probably still need $ky agreement because they could change stream characteristics without warning. I would say that stv paid for Freesat listing before realising that they had a problem with Big Daddy.
stv+1 is being broadcast on an ITV transponder. All they need is $ky conformance and a $ky EPG number. Then the Freesat EPG listing will follow suit.
UTV is the same except they are not wasting dosh on a HD transponder because there aren't any spare narrow beam ones available.
Is the above purely based on "rumours" or are there any facts to substantiate what you say. I am wary of any remarks by someone who childishly describes Sky as $ky. Why would Sky want STV HD encrypted when ITV1 HD isn't. I don't see stv castigating Sky anywhere about this so find that accusation hard to accept. If it is as you say why doesn't STV HD simply go on freesat. What is stopping that happening.
Most of what you allege just sounds like conjecture and speculation. I can't believe that if Sky was actively obstructing stv they wouldn't be shouting about it. Perhaps they are simply using the satellite as a feed to get the HD signal and indeed the +1 channel to DTT transmitters in Scotland and don't actually want to incur the costs for Sky transmission..
I can think of absolutely no reason why Sky would discriminate between stv and ITV as you appear to assume.
Kindly look at transponder 56 on 2D then and explain why it is so arranged.
ITV1 HD Granada FTA
ITV1 HD Central West encrypted
stv HD FTA
It is self explanatory. ITV has no need for encrypted HD regions. BTW the transponder is owned by $ky.
And if you can't understand or explain it, that doesn't mean that others can't either, if their explanation does not fit your view of things. The reality is that $ky will continue to frustrate its competition, Freesat, in any way it can, and as it has done in the past.
In other words then your views are just based on "rumours" and your own speculation. Thanks for the clarification. It may be self explanatory to you (you are clearly anti-Sky so explanations will be easy to deduce from that starting point) so clearly that makes it fact in your mind. Obviously though you don't know the truth of the position. I have no idea why ITV 1 HD Central West is encrypted on that transponder and I suspect you don't either. Similarly as to the position with STV HD. But let's not let that get in the way of some anti-Sky rhetoric...
As has already been said, UTV+1 & STV+1 are not yet on the Sky EPG, but they can, together with all the other ITV1+1's, be manaually tuned in....
12402V - ITV1 +1. Yorkshire (27.5-2/3) - Marked Yorks TT
10891H - ITV1 +1 Central (22/5/6) - Marked Central
10891H - ITV1 +1 London (22/5/6) - Marked London
10906V - ITV1 +1 Granada (22/5/6) - Marked Gra Bor
10906V - ITV1 +1 Meridian S (22-5/6) - Marked South East
11973V - ITV1 +1 Westcountry (27.5-2/3) - Marked West
10906V - Marked as 10225 STV +1 (22-5/6)
10891H - Marked as 10155 UTV1 +1 (22/5/6)
Surely if the channel is broadcast in the clear it will be equally accessible to both?
Yes thats exactly what it will be down to. I remember when I first got Sky installed channel 103 didn't exist! If you wanted to watch stv you had to switch to council telly. It was a good while before they came on to the EPG & it's one of the many reasons I refuse to watch that embarrassing little channel & watch ITV London on 993 instead.
hi 4 years later I tried all you said but no 'add channel' or store appears so cannot be done