Walking around London yesterday it was sad to see the large number of homeless out on the streets. It is a shame that the Government does not offer the save level of support as it does to refugees - i.e feed and house them. However the UK Government has a track record in looking after the welfare of others before their own people.
tell me about it. Then there's food banks appealing for help, Big Issue sellers, homeless ex servicemen, OAPS too hard up to put their heating on, Day Centres closing down, people rooting through supermarket skips for leftover food ..... It really bugs me.
There used to be an old saying "you can't put a quart into a pint pot." And that's very true.
Walking around London yesterday it was sad to see the large number of homeless out on the streets. It is a shame that the Government does not offer the save level of support as it does to refugees - i.e feed and house them. However the UK Government has a track record in looking after the welfare of others before their own people.
Especially ex-servicemen who should be helped to find a home and work above just about anyone else, considering what they've had to do the last few years and then been dumped.
tell me about it. Then there's food banks appealing for help, Big Issue sellers, homeless ex servicemen, OAPS too hard up to put their heating on, Day Centres closing down, people rooting through supermarket skips for leftover food ..... It really bugs me.
There used to be an old saying "you can't put a quart into a pint pot." And that's very true.
Cameron has agreed to 20k over 5 years. The stark reality of this will hit Labour councils in particular when their fuzziness wears off. Councils have big reserve funds that they haven't been using. Millions and millions. It's been deliberate. Osborne will come in and demand that they use them - you watch.
Charities in Munich are telling the Media to ask people not to bring food or clothing because they are overwhelmed and have too much already.
A poll by Germman broadcaster on Thursday showed that 88% of Germans want to donate food and clothing.
and are those 88% still going to be donating months and months from now.... I think we both know the answer to that.
5Live radio this morning had an interview with a women who was going to Germany because "they will give me a house". The reality of sleeping in dormitories in converted schools, factories is going to come as a shock...
It's like listening to a game of party political poker.
"I raise you your 10k plus another 5K"
"I raise you another 5K to 20K"
"I'll raise you 20K plus another 30K"
Still, no-one has come close to beating Natalie "Mad as a box of frogs" Bennett's 240K. :cool:
If it's 4K a year for five years, that's bearable. Kinda surprised the heartstrings photo didn't garner more. Quasi-backbone from Cameron? That's a first.
Apparently Knickers Less Sturgeon, Natalie Bennett and Yvette Cooper are all offering to put the Great Unwashed up in their homes. It's getting farcical. It really is a Whose The Loveliest Lefty game of poker.
If it's 4K a year for five years, that's bearable. Kinda surprised the heartstrings photo didn't garner more. Quasi-backbone from Cameron? That's a first.
Apparently Knickers Less Sturgeon, Natalie Bennett and Yvette Cooper are all offering to put the Great Unwashed up in their homes. It's getting farcical. It really is a Whose The Loveliest Lefty game of poker.
I've got BBC Parliament on now. It's Labour MP after Labour MP standing up and demanding to know why Cameron isn't taking the folks on the wander in Europe. Why these folks are more worthy than the ones who are did not attempt the journey no doubt due to lack of funds is beyond me.
I've got BBC Parliament on now. It's Labour MP after Labour MP standing up and demanding to know why Cameron isn't taking the folks on the wander in Europe. Why these folks are more worthy than the ones who are did not attempt the journey no doubt due to lack of funds is beyond me.
Yes, those already in Europe are clearly the most mobile, and had the money to get there. The people we are talking about taking - in the camps - are more vulnerable and include orphans, injured people, raped lone women, more elderly without family support, fewer language skills.
If we said we were taking the pick of the young, educated healthy ones with some Euros left in their pockets, Labour would be wailing about the people in the camps.
Just over 6000 signatures needed now in order to hit the magic number of 100,000 meaning this could be considered for debate in parliament. I doubt it will though, be considered that is. The Government haven't yet responded when the petition hit the 10,000 mark.
Yes, those already in Europe are clearly the most mobile, and had the money to get there. The people we are talking about taking - in the camps - are more vulnerable and include orphans, injured people, raped lone women, more elderly without family support, fewer language skills.
If we said we were taking the pick of the young, educated healthy ones with some Euros left in their pockets, Labour would be wailing about the people in the camps.
Cameron made a good point as well. The checks will all be done in the asylum camp prior to them coming to Britain. There won't be lengthy asylum processes to go through. Perhaps it's the labour luvvie human rights lawyers that are miffed. The legal system will be circumvented. That will save the country a pretty penny.
Yes, well under 100,000 in over 100 years.
Jews, Chinese, from the West Indies...all in manageable numbers over 60 or so years, all having to work to support themselves as it was mostly before the welfare state.
In the last 20 years it's been millions, from everywhere in the world, and that's why people are concerned about the infrastructure which frankly can't cope with what we already have.
Cameron has agreed to 20k over 5 years. The stark reality of this will hit Labour councils in particular when their fuzziness wears off. Councils have big reserve funds that they haven't been using. Millions and millions. It's been deliberate. Osborne will come in and demand that they use them - you watch.
What about the countless 1000's in Calais waiting to get to Britain? Will they be included in the 20,000 figure or will they continue to be swept under the carpet by the Government?
What about the countless 1000's in Calais waiting to get to Britain? Will they be included in the 20,000 figure or will they continue to be swept under the carpet by the Government?
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let's welcome them heartily .....
and a week later?
Is that a hospital?
tell me about it. Then there's food banks appealing for help, Big Issue sellers, homeless ex servicemen, OAPS too hard up to put their heating on, Day Centres closing down, people rooting through supermarket skips for leftover food ..... It really bugs me.
There used to be an old saying "you can't put a quart into a pint pot." And that's very true.
Ha ha. Bloody phone and it altering what you type. Edited it.
Especially ex-servicemen who should be helped to find a home and work above just about anyone else, considering what they've had to do the last few years and then been dumped.
Cameron has agreed to 20k over 5 years. The stark reality of this will hit Labour councils in particular when their fuzziness wears off. Councils have big reserve funds that they haven't been using. Millions and millions. It's been deliberate. Osborne will come in and demand that they use them - you watch.
It's like listening to a game of party political poker.
"I raise you your 10k plus another 5K"
"I raise you another 5K to 20K"
"I'll raise you 20K plus another 30K"
Still, no-one has come close to beating Natalie "Mad as a box of frogs" Bennett's 240K. :cool:
Charities in Munich are telling the Media to ask people not to bring food or clothing because they are overwhelmed and have too much already.
A poll by Germman broadcaster on Thursday showed that 88% of Germans want to donate food and clothing.
it's only after WW2: WAR HARDER were we bringing in others, so we could rebuild our island ..... before that, what was happening?
oh you little cynic
EVERYBODY knows that it takes the money tree in the back garden a week to mature!
and are those 88% still going to be donating months and months from now.... I think we both know the answer to that.
5Live radio this morning had an interview with a women who was going to Germany because "they will give me a house". The reality of sleeping in dormitories in converted schools, factories is going to come as a shock...
The Huegenots!
https://www.historytoday.com/robin-gwynn/englands-first-refugees
If it's 4K a year for five years, that's bearable. Kinda surprised the heartstrings photo didn't garner more. Quasi-backbone from Cameron? That's a first.
Apparently Knickers Less Sturgeon, Natalie Bennett and Yvette Cooper are all offering to put the Great Unwashed up in their homes. It's getting farcical. It really is a Whose The Loveliest Lefty game of poker.
I've got BBC Parliament on now. It's Labour MP after Labour MP standing up and demanding to know why Cameron isn't taking the folks on the wander in Europe. Why these folks are more worthy than the ones who are did not attempt the journey no doubt due to lack of funds is beyond me.
I thought we'd do a little update so lets see how its changed in the last 3 hours.
Petition 'for' is currently at 427,871, petition 'against' is currently at 93,263.
Against is currently behind by 334,608 signatures.
Yes, those already in Europe are clearly the most mobile, and had the money to get there. The people we are talking about taking - in the camps - are more vulnerable and include orphans, injured people, raped lone women, more elderly without family support, fewer language skills.
If we said we were taking the pick of the young, educated healthy ones with some Euros left in their pockets, Labour would be wailing about the people in the camps.
Parliament Petition
Cameron made a good point as well. The checks will all be done in the asylum camp prior to them coming to Britain. There won't be lengthy asylum processes to go through. Perhaps it's the labour luvvie human rights lawyers that are miffed. The legal system will be circumvented. That will save the country a pretty penny.
Yes, well under 100,000 in over 100 years.
Jews, Chinese, from the West Indies...all in manageable numbers over 60 or so years, all having to work to support themselves as it was mostly before the welfare state.
In the last 20 years it's been millions, from everywhere in the world, and that's why people are concerned about the infrastructure which frankly can't cope with what we already have.
What about the countless 1000's in Calais waiting to get to Britain? Will they be included in the 20,000 figure or will they continue to be swept under the carpet by the Government?
France are accepting 24K refugees.
Why would they be running rampant?
Might be crudely written, but it chimes with what people are thinking and saying.