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Sexless relationships, ok to have sex elsewhere?

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    36_Chambers36_Chambers Posts: 944
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    this is all about the womans feelings, blah blah

    what about the notion that the woman is immature for not opening her legs. would he of married her thinking he wouldnt get sex. i doubt it.
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    TagletTaglet Posts: 20,286
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    i meant ****

    if a woman sells her body she is a ****.

    plenty of respectable men sleep with hookers, why are you acting like this is new news?

    You really do need help with that dyslexia, you have made the same mistake again. A woman who sells her body is a woman, not a ****.
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    PretinamaPretinama Posts: 6,069
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    I am saying if you are genuinely entertaining engaging an escort behind your long term partner's back, you'd be best off leaving them and pursuing your course of action instead without them involved in any way.

    I am quite capable of reading usernames. I realise you are not the OP but I also disagree with your suggestion. If you have committed in law to honour your marriage vows and then wish to violate them, I think it best personally and legally to end that agreement and the implicit obligation attached to it rather than lose more in a divorce because you choose to cheat.

    Perhaps you should say 'if one is' rather than talking to me as if 'I' am considering this. *I* am not considering it. But you cannot be 'cheating' if you and your partner have discussed and agreed that it's OK to do it.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 11,110
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    this is all about the womans feelings, blah blah

    what about the notion that the woman is immature for not opening her legs. would he of married her thinking he wouldnt get sex. i doubt it.

    :eek::eek::eek:

    nuff said.

    I'm out.
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    TagletTaglet Posts: 20,286
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    she is a ****.

    You have some serious problems with women dont you?
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    kaiserbeekaiserbee Posts: 4,276
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    this is all about the womans feelings, blah blah

    what about the notion that the woman is immature for not opening her legs. would he of married her thinking he wouldnt get sex. i doubt it.

    Unless we knew the reasons why she does not want sex, we cannot assume she is immature or not. There are hundreds of reasons why one spouse cannot/doesn't want to make love to their spouse.

    For my husband, he simply cannot do it anymore due to having Multiple Sclerosis.

    I married on the assumption I would have regular sex, as did he. Shit happens.

    One can have sexual relations without having sexual intercourse.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,660
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    Pretinama wrote: »
    Perhaps you should say 'if one is' rather than talking to me as if 'I' am considering this. *I* am not considering it. But you cannot be 'cheating' if you and your partner have discussed and agreed that it's OK to do it.

    Okay, I apologise for that error on my part, I was assuming your suppositions were in support of your own personal view and so addressed my response to them to you accordingly. If that was not your intent, I am sorry for that mistake I made against you.
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    36_Chambers36_Chambers Posts: 944
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    ... Acting like what? Pointing out the logical fallacies of your suppositions? It's called using common sense to disarm an argument. I am capable of debate and recognising flawed arguments. That is all I am doing.



    A woman has no obligation to any man whatsoever. it's called having and using your individual human rights. If a man marries only for sex and not because he considers the woman a suitable life time partner worth sharing his life with, he probably shouldn't be getting married at all. Women are not objects made for our pleasure, they are human beings, not blow up dolls made of flesh capable of breathing. The sooner you realise that, the better off you will be for it.

    so you think its acceptable for a man to miss out on a sex life just becuase she has issues.
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    Miss XYZMiss XYZ Posts: 14,023
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    He did have sex with a grandmother who worked as a prostitute as well as this other woman who also slept with Mario Balotelli and Hugh Bonneville.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2125049/Mario-Balotelli-slept-Wayne-Rooney-prostitute-Jennifer-Thompson.html



    I don't think anyone's allowed to mention that, thanks to a certain super injunction! ;)

    OP you started a thread a couple of days ago about Dad's in a kids soft play area - you went back and deleted some of the stuff you originally posted but I'm sure many of us saw what you wrote before you deleted it. It was obvious then that your brain probably isn't in your head like it should be. If this thread is about your own sex life then you need to take a long look at yourself - your kids are only toddlers so your sex life clearly hasn't been dead for a prolonged period of time.
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    Uk LtdUk Ltd Posts: 1,228
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    this is all about the womans feelings, blah blah

    what about the notion that the woman is immature for not opening her legs. would he of married her thinking he wouldnt get sex. i doubt it.

    Finally, someone speaks some sense.

    I know Declan is preaching to the women in the congregation, enjoying the adulation that his laughable suggestions such as 'talking about shagging someone else' and that people whose partners prefer a 'no sex' option should take this on board and join them on the path to sexual dryness. However, in the real world, where we don't have keyboards and baying fat groupies who fawn at the idea of a 'real man' who is sexually above us mortals because he cares about feelings and a woman's needs, there is a world full of men who may indeed love their wife and kids, but the natural urge to have consensual sex with beautiful women is of greater attraction than a life of masturbation in the spare room, intermittent with time spent typing elaborate flowing posts portraying the image of a woman's ideal man who prefers talking to getting his nuts drained.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,660
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    so you think its acceptable for a man to miss out on a sex life just becuase she has issues.

    Yes, I do. It's her body and her right to do with it what she likes. As I said, woman are human beings, not sex objects you can order around. If a man does not respect his partner enough to be considerate of her feelings and wishes, he doesn't deserve to have one, let alone her affection.
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    agrainofsandagrainofsand Posts: 8,693
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    Have you folks not seen 36_Chambers posts before?

    This is his schtick.
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    chaz richchaz rich Posts: 1,812
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    i meant ****

    if a woman sells her body she is a ****.

    plenty of respectable men sleep with hookers, why are you acting like this is new news?



    Actually one definition of a **** is

    A person considered sexually promiscuous.


    So your basically saying then these so called respectable men that sleep with hookers are as much **** as the women they sleep with.
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    36_Chambers36_Chambers Posts: 944
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    Yes, I do. It's her body and her right to do with it what she likes. As I said, woman are human beings, not sex objects you can order around. If a man does not respect his partner enough to be considerate of her feelings and wishes, he doesn't deserve to have one, let alone her affection.

    and those women wonder why they get dumped and left on the shelf
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    36_Chambers36_Chambers Posts: 944
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    chaz rich wrote: »
    Actually one definition of a **** is

    A person considered sexually promiscuous.


    So your basically saying then these so called respectable men that sleep with hookers are as much **** as the women they sleep with.

    thats fine
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    kittleskittles Posts: 4,327
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    Uk Ltd wrote: »
    Finally, someone speaks some sense.

    I know Declan is preaching to the women in the congregation, enjoying the adulation that his laughable suggestions such as 'talking about shagging someone else' and that people whose partners prefer a 'no sex' option should take this on board and join them on the path to sexual dryness. However, in the real world, where we don't have keyboards and baying fat groupies who fawn at the idea of a 'real man' who is sexually above us mortals because he cares about feelings and a woman's needs, there is a world full of men who may indeed love their wife and kids, but the natural urge to have consensual sex with beautiful women is of greater attraction than a life of masturbation in the spare room, intermittent with time spent typing elaborate flowing posts portraying the image of a woman's ideal man who prefers talking to getting his nuts drained.

    Then leave your wife! It's really quite simple.
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    TagletTaglet Posts: 20,286
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    Uk Ltd wrote: »
    Finally, someone speaks some sense.

    I know Declan is preaching to the women in the congregation, enjoying the adulation that his laughable suggestions such as 'talking about shagging someone else' and that people whose partners prefer a 'no sex' option should take this on board and join them on the path to sexual dryness. However, in the real world, where we don't have keyboards and baying fat groupies who fawn at the idea of a 'real man' who is sexually above us mortals because he cares about feelings and a woman's needs, there is a world full of men who may indeed love their wife and kids, but the natural urge to have consensual sex with beautiful women is of greater attraction than a life of masturbation in the spare room, intermittent with time spent typing elaborate flowing posts portraying the image of a woman's ideal man who prefers talking to getting his nuts drained.

    I would have thought that your situation was proof enough that your approach with women is not working.
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    TagletTaglet Posts: 20,286
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    and those women wonder why they get dumped and left on the shelf

    Weird.....people on where are actually advocating that the OP does exactly that. Speak to her, end his marriage if it cant be resolved.....why is it that difficult?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,660
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    Uk Ltd wrote: »
    Finally, someone speaks some sense.

    I know Declan is preaching to the women in the congregation, enjoying the adulation that his laughable suggestions such as 'talking about shagging someone else' and that people whose partners prefer a 'no sex' option should take this on board and join them on the path to sexual dryness. However, in the real world, where we don't have keyboards and baying fat groupies who fawn at the idea of a 'real man' who is sexual above us mortals because he cares about feelings and a woman's needs, there is a world full of men who may indeed love their wife and kids, but the natural urge to have consensual sex with beautiful women is of greater attraction than a life of masturbation in the spare room, intermittent with time spent typing elaborate flowing posts portraying the image of a woman's ideal man who prefers talking to getting his nuts drained.

    I have a girlfriend who loves me and gives me affection. I live in the real world and considering you're the one choosing to air out your personal life on the internet for us, I would suggest you're the one confusing the internet with your personal life, not me. You're also the one making fanciful suggestions to suit your own agenda, claiming everyone is a fat groupie when you know none of us personally enough to make that kind of judgment.

    Real men treat real women with real respect and regard and in turn we get what we want willingly from them because they want to please us as we please them, not through payments arranged over the phone and actions conducted illicitly away from home. If you wish to pay for escorts rather than discuss matters with your wife so you can get what you want from her on the basis that satisfies you both, go ahead and hire who you like for what you like. I'm not saying not to, I am just suggesting it's incredibly sad to abuse your partner's trust and commitment to you simply because you put draining your nuts over being a decent and respectful husband.
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    36_Chambers36_Chambers Posts: 944
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    Taglet wrote: »
    I would have thought that your situation was proof enough that your approach with women is not working.

    how about the possible reason she is just uptight
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    pickwickpickwick Posts: 25,739
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    Uk Ltd wrote: »
    Finally, someone speaks some sense.

    I know Declan is preaching to the women in the congregation, enjoying the adulation that his laughable suggestions such as 'talking about shagging someone else' and that people whose partners prefer a 'no sex' option should take this on board and join them on the path to sexual dryness. However, in the real world, where we don't have keyboards and baying fat groupies who fawn at the idea of a 'real man' who is sexually above us mortals because he cares about feelings and a woman's needs, there is a world full of men who may indeed love their wife and kids, but the natural urge to have consensual sex with beautiful women is of greater attraction than a life of masturbation in the spare room, intermittent with time spent typing elaborate flowing posts portraying the image of a woman's ideal man who prefers talking to getting his nuts drained.
    Dude, you're the one who posted wanting validation* of your decision to cheat on your wife cos she doesn't shag you when you think you're owed it. You can hardly accuse anyone else of caring too much about what other people think.

    (*In theory, anyway - I wouldn't put much money on you even having a wife.)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,660
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    and those women wonder why they get dumped and left on the shelf

    ... Again, fanciful supposition of imaginary circumstances to suit your own view.

    Just because you believe something, doesn't make it real. It's just wishful thinking.
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    TagletTaglet Posts: 20,286
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    how about the possible reason she is just uptight

    What of it?
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    ChristaChrista Posts: 17,560
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    I'm surprised anyone thinks the OP is married, I doubt he even has a gf.
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    Uk LtdUk Ltd Posts: 1,228
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    I have a girlfriend who loves me and gives me affection. I live in the real world and considering you're the one choosing to air out your personal life on the internet for us, I would suggest you're the one confusing the internet with your personal life, not me. You're also the one making fanciful suggestions to suit your own agenda, claiming everyone is a fat groupie when you know none of us personally enough to make that kind of judgment.

    Real men treat real women with real respect and regard and in turn we get what we want willingly from them because they want to please us as we please them, not through payments arranged over the phone and actions conducted illicitly away from home. If you wish to pay for escorts rather than discuss matters with your wife so you can get what you want from her on the basis that satisfies you both, go ahead and hire who you like for what you like. I'm not saying not to, I am just suggesting it's incredibly sad to abuse your partner's trust and commitment to you simply because you put draining your nuts over being a decent and respectful husband.

    A minor point, but I've never once mentioned hookers or escorts.
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