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One-Off Villains/Monsters that should have returned

daveyboy7472daveyboy7472 Posts: 16,416
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Alongside the many regularly returning enemies like the Daleks and the Cybermen etc there have been a long list of one-off villains who have made their own marks on stories but never got a second outing. A lot of these villains usually ended up dead or where so integral to their own story it would be hard to see a return.

However, there are some villains and monsters that I would love to have seen back for a second crack at defeating The Doctor. I think one of them is Count Grendel from The Androids Of Tara. One of the few enemies the Doctor didn't completely defeat, he was still out there and a return to Tara for a rematch would have been interesting.

Another one is the Mandragora helix thing from The Masque Of Mandragora. Again it's still out there and though it only came to Earth every few hundred years, it could be faced elsewhere.

Stretching the point a little, the Celestial Toymaker was worthy of a rematch. I know he should have been back in the original Season 23 but I think he should have been back before then, it was an opportunity wasted.

Anyway, that's some of my thoughts to get the ball rolling. Remember, this isn't necessarily about one-off villains you would like back for the New Series but who maybe should have come back in the Classic Series. Plus there maybe some one-off New Who villains you think should have come back.

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    grazey1985grazey1985 Posts: 1,480
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    Axons.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,772
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    Stretching the point a little, the Celestial Toymaker was worthy of a rematch. I know he should have been back in the original Season 23 but I think he should have been back before then, it was an opportunity wasted.

    I've been saying they should bring him back ever since the show returned.

    Not a returning character, but I'd also like to see a sequel to the Mind Robber -
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    CorwinCorwin Posts: 16,607
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    The Draconians.

    Maybe have the Doctor on their side against an Invading Human army.



    The Rutans

    We need to see an encounter from the Rutan/Sontaran war without end.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 242
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    I always thought the Toclafane were rather good. They certainly had more potential than to be just another ally for the Master
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    doctor blue boxdoctor blue box Posts: 7,339
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    The reapers. Also the dreamlord, although I suppose the doctor who have to inhale some kind of hallucinogen again for that to happen.
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    bennythedipbennythedip Posts: 2,347
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    The mechanoids or the quarks.
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    saladfingers81saladfingers81 Posts: 11,301
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    Kandyman.

    and no I'm not joking.
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    CELT1987CELT1987 Posts: 12,358
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    Sil. Nabil Shaban was great.
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    bp2bp2 Posts: 1,117
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    CELT1987 wrote: »
    Sil. Nabil Shaban was great.

    Sil wasn't a one off

    As for the Kandyman that will never happen, Bassetts were told it would never appear again.
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    comedyfishcomedyfish Posts: 21,637
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    If you like the Celestial Toymaker you can find him battling 7 in the audio story: The Magic Mousetrap.

    I haven't heard it yet but apparantly its good
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    Sufyaan_KaziSufyaan_Kazi Posts: 3,862
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    Vastra nerada
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    Tom TitTom Tit Posts: 2,554
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    I'll do my usual killjoy response of saying I'm not as interested in seeing returning nemeses as I am in seeing new ones.

    BUT... :P

    The Monk could be pretty cool (but please don't call him 'the Monk'... as he isn't actually a bloody monk :P)


    As for 'should have', as in 'would have been cool in an alternative past'; I've said it before: Troughton as Salamander showing up in the Pertwee era would have been pretty cool.
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    daveyboy7472daveyboy7472 Posts: 16,416
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    CELT1987 wrote: »
    Sil. Nabil Shaban was great.
    Tom Tit wrote: »
    I'll do my usual killjoy response of saying I'm not as interested in seeing returning nemeses as I am in seeing new ones.

    BUT... :P

    The Monk could be pretty cool (but please don't call him 'the Monk'... as he isn't actually a bloody monk :P)


    As for 'should have', as in 'would have been cool in an alternative past'; I've said it before: Troughton as Salamander showing up in the Pertwee era would have been pretty cool.

    Though both Sil and The Monk(Sorry Tom, but what else do you call him?) were not one offs I would still like to see them both back in the show.

    Also agree about the Draconians, they were a race with a difference and weren't just your average villain, would be interesting to see what the New Series could do with them.

    :)
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    chuffnobblerchuffnobbler Posts: 10,771
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    The Monk (played by Michael Palin)
    The Rani, obviously (Daniela Nardini, if Kate O'Mara deeclines the initial offer)
    Draconians
    Malus
    Tractators
    Axons
    Tereleptils
    Rutans (I spose shapeshifting makes them too similar to Zygons)
    Drahvins
    Mechonoids (maybe too big and cumbersome)
    Reapers
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 231
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    Would love to see the Vashta Nerada back!

    Classic one-off's should be left alone in my opinion (Zygons were welcome by me in 50th though).
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 903
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    Silence
    Family of Blood
    Dreamlord

    Rani
    Toymaker
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    daveyboy7472daveyboy7472 Posts: 16,416
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    Would love to see the Vashta Nerada back!

    Classic one-off's should be left alone in my opinion (Zygons were welcome by me in 50th though).

    I disagree. I think now and again it's nice to have a story with a one-off classic villain in it, but I agree it doesn't always work. The Macra in Gridlock, despite all the CGI and stuff, didn't seem as effective as in their debut story.

    It all comes down to how well you use that villain and insert them into a new storyline. If it's done well, there's no issue imo.

    :)
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    BatmannequinBatmannequin Posts: 489
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    I say it every time that this topic comes up, but I still reckon that the Nimon are the best baddie that never was (unless you count God Complex as a return). Horns was gash, and their costumes were half-arsed at best, but the idea behind them is well worth revisiting.
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    CELT1987CELT1987 Posts: 12,358
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    bp2 wrote: »
    Sil wasn't a one off

    As for the Kandyman that will never happen, Bassetts were told it would never appear again.
    I forgot Sil was in Mindwarp.
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    Face Of JackFace Of Jack Posts: 7,181
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    I'd like to see a return of the Mechanoids and the Quarks!!
    Both were quite pathetic in their first appearances......but with CGI - they could be made a lot more menacing I'm sure!!
    The Mechanoids could be a lot bigger - and do better than a flame-thrower!
    The Quarks could be similar - but speak with a deeper voice! (that would be a start!)
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