Basil d'Oliviera

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Basil d'Oliviera has died at the age of 80.

I remember him playing , a great batsman and a more than useful bowler. He will be perhaps better known for the great dignity he showed following the controversy over his non selection for England to play South Africa

RIP Dolly

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  • jake1981jake1981 Posts: 5,715
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    A man of great dignity that was treated horrendously by the cricketing establishment of the time.
    I remember him scoring 150+ in the final Test at the Oval and then being initially left out of the touring squad to South Africa but having to be called up due to injuries elsewhere after the selectors had said he had only just missed out.
    For those younger ones of the forum, it's well worth reading up on him

    RIP
  • carnivalistcarnivalist Posts: 4,565
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    I remember him well. Not just for his talent, but for his bravery, dignity, humility and strength of character in the face of adversity. There's genuine lump in my throat as I type this.

    The word "great" is often used for sportsmen, but Basil D'Olivieria is one of the very, very few who genuinely deserves it.

    A truly great human being.

    R.I.P.
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    Im not old enough to remember him but having seen documentaries and reading articles I concur with the above comments. A great individual who defied the barriers placed in front of him to make a fine career for himself and many who followed him afterwards.
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    Sad day. Just heard Tom Graveney talking about him on SSN.
    I forgot he was Wisden cricketer of the year in 1967
    For those unaware of the impact he had on cricket both on and off the field , there's an excellent 'timeline' piece on Cricinfo
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    http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/current/story/356092.html
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    RIP and thanks for the memories
  • carnivalistcarnivalist Posts: 4,565
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    Listen to Pat Murphy and Peter Oborne talking about him on Five Live if you get the chance. I imagine it'll be on "Listen again" for Saturday Weekend Breakfast. Well worth it. All sorts of behind the scenes stories about what an absolute gent Dolly was.
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    Listen to Pat Murphy and Peter Oborne talking about him on Five Live if you get the chance. I imagine it'll be on "Listen again" for Saturday Weekend Breakfast. Well worth it. All sorts of behind the scenes stories about what an absolute gent Dolly was.

    I heard that, fantastic tales from Pat Murphy who said Basil was in fact 83 and therefore 40 when the South African tour in 1968 was due to start. In his last season for Worcestershire he was applauded to and from the wicket at every venue he played at such was the affection the British public had for him
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    How good would he have been if he could have played Test cricket at his peak?

    To start at age 37 and average 40 takes some doing (even if the strength of international cricket wasn't so high at the time).

    The BBC missed a trick in not awarding him a lifetime achievement award at SPOTY.

    I recall him playing in one of the one day finals in the mid 70s. He tore a hamstring whilst fielding but hit a superb 50 'on one leg'.

    And, of course, he was mentioned in Fawlty Towers.

    Major Gowan: "...... D'Oliveira got a century!"

    Basil: "Did he...... good old Dolly."

    The grass will lie lightly upon him.
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    Sad to hear this news waking up this morning. Though his playing career was before my time, he clearly played a major role for England and Worcester over many years-playing on until his late 40s. I'd highly recommend Peter Oborne's biography of him-Not Cricket-to get a flavour of the cricketer and the man. A true legend of the game and an inspiration to countless numbers who've started the game after him.

    The D'Oliveira name is living on at New Road into a 3rd generation with his grandson Brett making his one day debut a few months ago.

    RIP.
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    Hullboy wrote: »
    Sad to hear this news waking up this morning. Though his playing career was before my time, he clearly played a major role for England and Worcester over many years-playing on until his late 40s. I'd highly recommend Peter Oborne's biography of him-Not Cricket-to get a flavour of the cricketer and the man. A true legend of the game and an inspiration to countless numbers who've started the game after him.

    The D'Oliveira name is living on at New Road into a 3rd generation with his grandson Brett making his one day debut a few months ago.

    RIP.

    Agreed.

    I go to watch cricket at Central Lancashire League Club Middleton where Dolly played in the early 60's before Worcstershire gave him a chance.

    It is a town ground which I think has loads of character, made more so because every time I drive in there I think of Dolly (not to mention Hedly Verity and Frank Tyson) playing there.

    They all thought they'd made a mistake as Dolly struggled with the wickets and moving ball in the often damp Greater Manchester climate. But once acclimatised, he hit hundreds of runs and I think, broke League records at a time when some of the best cricketers in the world (especially the WI fast bowlers) were playing in the CLL.

    His story is amazing and the above mentioned book describes how his team back in SA would prepare their dust wicket and then carry the mat that they roll out over the dust track so that their game could take place.

    As a former club cricketer, it makes you realise how lucky you are to have the facilities and environment we have here to play. The phrase 'we don't know we're born', comes to mind.

    He was a central part of my growing up - b/w images on BBC with Peter West describing the Test Matches at the Oval and Lord's and images in Playfair Cricket Monthly and the Playfair Cricket Annual.

    I shall take a special moment to think of him again next time I drive through the gates at Middleon.

    Condolensces to his family.

    RIP Dolly
  • jmclaughjmclaugh Posts: 63,997
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    Sad news, he was a top class all rounder and a true gent.
  • carnivalistcarnivalist Posts: 4,565
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    Hullboy wrote: »
    ...I'd highly recommend Peter Oborne's biography of him-Not Cricket-to get a flavour of the cricketer and the man...

    Thanks for the heads-up. I'll be getting that in the near future.
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    RIP Dolly... you had the grace to hold yourself...
  • IgnazioIgnazio Posts: 18,695
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    Basil D'Oliveira - he didn't seek to represent the injustice of sporting apartheid in South Africa but when it was thrust upon him he handled it with dignity and modesty, characteristics with which his name will always be associated.

    In an age when knighthoods are handed out like lollipops at an infants' sports day, it is a disgrace that the title of Sir was never conferred upon D'Oliveira - and equally disgraceful that he was never awarded a Lifetime Achievement Award at the Sports Personality of Year ceremony.

    However great men surmount the trifles of baubles and titles and despite his reluctance D'Oliveira wrote his own name not only in cricketing history but also in the fight against apartheid.

    RIP.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,360
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    The Basil D'Oliveira trophy will be awarded to the winners of next summer's clash between England and SA. If the series is as memorable as it's shaping up to be, it will be a fitting tribute to his memory.
  • dtcdtcdtcdtcdtcdtc Posts: 16,991
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    Just looking through the TV guide and saw there is a Basil D'Oliveira docu on BBC4 tonight at 11.30pm.
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    Looks like it concentrates on the aparteid issues but it should be worth a watch (or record for those of us that have to get up early)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 9,517
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    dtcdtcdtc wrote: »
    Just looking through the TV guide and saw there is a Basil D'Oliveira docu on BBC4 tonight at 11.30pm.
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    Looks like it concentrates on the aparteid issues but it should be worth a watch (or record for those of us that have to get up early)

    Many thanks , I hadn't noticed it. Could do with a better time slot or even BBC 1 2"
  • tennismantennisman Posts: 4,483
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    A fascinating documentary.

    I thought that all the politicians and the cricket administrators came across very poorly.

    Much of it seemed to come down to that selection meeting about which Doug Insole was a crusty and cantankerous old fart really.

    Mind you, we don't know what was and wasn't said with the minutes of the meeting having been lost (oh, how inconvenient).

    All smacked of the way things used to be (the one change on the scorecard is at #7 where F.J. Titmus should read, Titmus F.J.).

    Loved Wes Hall talking with incredulity about Dolly hitting him for 6 back over his head.

    Other than Allan Donald, Hall is the most terrifying bowler I've ever seen.

    Can't imagine what a quick eye and hands Dolly must have had to despatch the great bowler so.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 9,517
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    tennisman wrote: »
    A fascinating documentary.

    I thought that all the politicians and the cricket administrators came across very poorly.

    Much of it seemed to come down to that selection meeting about which Doug Insole was a crusty and cantankerous old fart really.

    Mind you, we don't know what was and wasn't said with the minutes of the meeting having been lost (oh, how inconvenient).

    All smacked of the way things used to be (the one change on the scorecard is at #7 where F.J. Titmus should read, Titmus F.J.).

    Loved Wes Hall talking with incredulity about Dolly hitting him for 6 back over his head.

    Other than Allan Donald, Hall is the most terrifying bowler I've ever seen.

    Can't imagine what a quick eye and hands Dolly must have had to despatch the great bowler so.

    Sadly I have been unable to watch it as it is unavailable on i Player for some reason ( copyright?) I do remember the 1968 series very well and in particular the last half hour of the game at the Oval. Dolly got a wicket and with no more tha half an hour remaining they switched to Underwood and he took the last few wickets with a minute or so to spare. England very rarely won in those days and even if they were in a position to do so the rain fell.

    How many times I came back from school to listen to Radio 3 and find the dreaded music on which meant rain stopped play. They didn't have the chat on in those days , so you had no idea what was happening

    Yes , Wes Hall was a fearsome bowler , a massive run up and a violent bouncer, and of course no helmets. I would say Malcolm Marshall was the best and quickest bowler I have ever seen , possibly because he came at a low angle and was difficult to judge whether it woud be in your face or not
  • dtcdtcdtcdtcdtcdtc Posts: 16,991
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    Just watched it. Worth keeping an eye out for it being repeated as BBC 4 seem to show programs more than once
    A good watch . Didn't know that he scored a double ton in 65 mins or that he had been offered money by the SA government to make himself unavailable for the tour
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