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Death To The Daleks
daveyboy7472
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I think this is possibly my least favourite of all the 4-parters during Jon Pertwee's Era and also one of my least favourite Dalek stories ever. It's not an awful story but there isn't really that much to commend it.
There are a few good things to say about it. The city scenes remind me of those adventure games that used to be around when I was a kid on TV. I like the fact that for once Terry Nation tried to do something different with The Daleks by disabling their usual weapons and having them to be on a par, albeit temporarily, with the humans and then using their wits to get back in control.
On the downside, however, there are several things I don't like. The incidental music was by the same composer who did The Silurians. Didn't like the music for that and this is not much better, so prefer Dudley Simpson's scores.
Though it is a 4-parter, it feels like a 6-parter and it amazingly seems to actually sag in places! It's very slow-moving at times and is generally lacking in any sort of pace, even by Classic Who Standards. The human characters sometimes seem to lack any kind of motivation and even the ones that do, like Galloway, seem to amble along at a slow pace to get things done!
Despite their setbacks in this story The Daleks are a tad predictable and it can be seen how much the injection of Davros into their stories was needed at this point. As the last one not to feature Davros to the New Series it really is a letdown.
There are a few good things to say about it. The city scenes remind me of those adventure games that used to be around when I was a kid on TV. I like the fact that for once Terry Nation tried to do something different with The Daleks by disabling their usual weapons and having them to be on a par, albeit temporarily, with the humans and then using their wits to get back in control.
The first episode cliffhanger is an interesting one which required the viewer to make the simple conclusion that the power had gone from their weapons.
Bellal is an amusing character, liked the Dalek who self destructed plus the Dalek-root fight. (And the atypical Pertwee gag that followed). Plus the early TARDIS scenes are good as well.On the downside, however, there are several things I don't like. The incidental music was by the same composer who did The Silurians. Didn't like the music for that and this is not much better, so prefer Dudley Simpson's scores.
Though it is a 4-parter, it feels like a 6-parter and it amazingly seems to actually sag in places! It's very slow-moving at times and is generally lacking in any sort of pace, even by Classic Who Standards. The human characters sometimes seem to lack any kind of motivation and even the ones that do, like Galloway, seem to amble along at a slow pace to get things done!
Despite their setbacks in this story The Daleks are a tad predictable and it can be seen how much the injection of Davros into their stories was needed at this point. As the last one not to feature Davros to the New Series it really is a letdown.
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Toned down? the new series has looked at issues such as terminal illness, the immorality of violence, cannibalism, the profiteering of big nusiness and (even though I disagree about its place in Doctor Who, though this is just IMO) interracial lesbian relationships. Toned down? I don't think so.
PC? Most things are these days, even in its heyday doctor who was mostly PC anyways.
Computerised? under steven moffat, the budget for Doctor Who has decreased, as has the use of CGI. Episode 1 of series 7 has
And Doctor Who? Yes it is.
So thank you, but please back up your opinionated rubbish with fact instead of trolling in future. Thank you,
I do actually like Bellal. he must be one of the cutest aliens to have appeared in Doctor Who!
I rather liked it! I remember thinking it was a bit poo, years ago, but rather enjoyed it now. The music's good. Bellal is fantastic. There's some very good direction and camera work (Michael Briant is a superb director). The "root" thingie is very effective, especially in the scene where it rises from the lake. The suicidal Daleks made us chuckle. The whole episode of padding (Doctor and Bellal vs Terry nation's standard "logic puzzles") jogged along quite happily.
This is a new (re)discovery for me. Very happy with it!
I agree, it's quite entertaining and not really suited to its rubbish reputation. And where else can you see Sarah Jane's first introduction to the Daleks?
Totally agree.
My favourite bit is when the Daleks imposingly come forward to exterminate the humans, only to find their weapons don't work. Then while they agree to a brief alliance, some Daleks are working on a new shotgun type weapon in their ship. haha the cheeky gits (to add insult to injury, aren't they shooting a toy Tardis as target practice?)
Though of course the Doctor making his way through the trials of the Exxillon city is particularly memorable.
And the one bloke at the control panel who's
I think the one that seemed really familiar was the one that closed the third episode, with the floor pattern where you had to get across without setting something off in this game show!
Off course, I always thought the similar game in The Five Doctors with the first Doctor, Tegan and The Master was a bit of a rip-off of this game, only bigger!
Sorry Daveboy I am going to disagree a bit with you on this story:)I actually liked the Exillon City incidental music. It felt errie and mysterious.
I do have very fond memories of this story being one of the first Pertwee stories I brought on VHS. I think Ithere's quite a lot going in the story withthe Exillons & human sacrifice, the tensions in the Marine corp group to get the drug they need and the arrival of the Daleks. Pertwee seems very in contro as the Doctorl.Most of the actors are good except for Joy Harrison as Jill who granted is a little wooden.
But I do agree that the actor who played Bellal was very convincing and the early scenes with the Tardis losing power are good. Mainly down to Lis Sladen's acting.
.Its a story I really enjoy watching
I'm totally with you on this, LadyT. I can remember saving my pocket money to buy the compilation VHS, and the music has always stayed with me. Those Exxilon chants are well sinister.
I wonder what happened to Joy Harrison?
I'm afraid I am a big fan of Dudley Simpson's incidental music. IMVHO it has only ever been bettered by the scores by the Radiophonic Workshop during Seasons 18-23. I think he could have done wonders with this story had he been assigned to it.
The score for this story I dislike so much because it is so similar to The Silurians, which as previously mentioned , is my least favourite of this era and the incidental music is one of the factors for that.
I do actually agree that the Exillon chanting music they used was quite good and creepy.
That's 'The Adventure Game' you're thinking of.
Gronda gronda!
The Adventure Game??
Doog yrev!!!
Thank You!
That was the one! Didn't it used to be on a Saturday Afternoon or something??!
I think some of it was shown on BBC2 round about 6pm or so on a weekday
Thanks! Shows how long ago it was/how bad my memory is, delete as appropriate.
I have a few picky moments (I sound like in "Four in a Bed"!). When the Tardis lost its power - the Doctor miraculously found a torch and then a Gas Lamp. Then to open the main doors he found a crank-handle! That hole was never there before
I thought it a bit silly that the Daleks had a specially-made model of the Tardis to shoot at with their bullets. Why not just use a block of wood or something?
How did the Daleks put on their 'suicide bombs' ?
Anyway - as much as it was silly - I really enjoyed it! Loved the gamey stuff as well!:)
Well I wondered myself Chuffnobbler and according to the good ol' interweb link below she is living outside the UK
http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/doctor-who-death-to-the-daleks.html
So glad I am not alone in my love for Death of the Daleks!:D