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Matt35Matt35 Posts: 30,132
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A few years ago my uncle told me these will be tvs to have. Apparently they've been out since 2012 but were very expensive but LG's offering is £2.500 in currys. No doubt next year the big boys will be bringing out theirs. In an article i read it said these are perfect for gaming but I've also heard they do suffer from image retention similar to plasmas so surely that's not ideal when playing games. Does anyone have one of these. Maybe even this one.http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/lg-55ef950v-smart-3d-ultra-hd-4k-55-oled-tv-10137727-pdt.html
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    Nigel GoodwinNigel Goodwin Posts: 58,517
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    Matt35 wrote: »
    A few years ago my uncle told me these will be tvs to have. Apparently they've been out since 2012 but were very expensive but LG's offering is £2.500 in currys. No doubt next year the big boys will be bringing out theirs. In an article i read it said these are perfect for gaming but I've also heard they do suffer from image retention similar to plasmas so surely that's not ideal when playing games. Does anyone have one of these. Maybe even this one.http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertainment/televisions/televisions/lg-55ef950v-smart-3d-ultra-hd-4k-55-oled-tv-10137727-pdt.html

    OLED is pretty well 'failed' technology - tiny ones came out years ago (mobile phones and such), and it was presumed that it was just a matter of 'scaling up'.

    However, this didn't work, and billions have been spent trying to achieve it, with most manufacturers giving up on the idea - it's also been suggested that so much has been spent on development, that projected sales will never cover the development costs.

    As far as I'm aware LG are the main developer now, and are supposedly responsible for the new silly curved screens, as they originally couldn't make OLED ones that were straight.

    It's a LOT of money, but if it's something you fancy, they go for it :D

    Have you been to Currys and compared the pictures on display with other sets?.
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    MustabusterMustabuster Posts: 5,975
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    IIRC from my days working with a mobile OEM manufacturer OLED displays do have an image retention problem, particularly with the colour blue. Also I've had a Samsung S3 with an OLED screen. There's a game I played on it which had a bit of static blue in the UI and has burnt into the screen. So if you're primary use is gaming I wouldn't recommend it.
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    Matt35Matt35 Posts: 30,132
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    OLED is pretty well 'failed' technology - tiny ones came out years ago (mobile phones and such), and it was presumed that it was just a matter of 'scaling up'.

    However, this didn't work, and billions have been spent trying to achieve it, with most manufacturers giving up on the idea - it's also been suggested that so much has been spent on development, that projected sales will never cover the development costs.

    As far as I'm aware LG are the main developer now, and are supposedly responsible for the new silly curved screens, as they originally couldn't make OLED ones that were straight.

    It's a LOT of money, but if it's something you fancy, they go for it :D

    Have you been to Currys and compared the pictures on display with other sets?.

    No not been in to currys for a few weeks. Didn't realise it's already failed. Not looking to get a TV. At the moment I'm more than happy with my Sony w905. I've no interest in the curved TV which i have seen in currys but couldn't even tell the difference between that and straight ones. May invest in a 4k TV in a couple of years, was gonna be a oled but that doesn't look likely now.
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    webbiewebbie Posts: 1,614
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    I suggest you look at the forums at avforums.com for the reviews etc of the latest LG OLEDS. They are not made in the same way as the early (failed) versions.
    And you can have a flat one now!
    The ones in the shops now have definitely not failed!
    There will be more out next year in smaller sizes too.
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    alanwarwicalanwarwic Posts: 28,396
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    OLED displays are the only growth industry, cost falling enough for them to be hitting middle end soon.

    High manufacturing cost always meant OLED was niche high end until very recent.
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    StigStig Posts: 12,446
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    OLED is not a failure, it's just still low yeild. The latest 4K OLED TVs are the best you can buy. The reason they are curved is just to show off that they can.

    I'm waiting for a sensible priced OLED 4K TV to replace my 6 year old plasma.
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    Matt35Matt35 Posts: 30,132
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    Stig wrote: »
    OLED is not a failure, it's just still low yeild. The latest 4K OLED TVs are the best you can buy. The reason they are curved is just to show off that they can.

    I'm waiting for a sensible priced OLED 4K TV to replace my 6 year old plasma.

    Got my pioneer plasma upstairs for sky multiroom. I remembered how fantastic picture was but when i switched it I was quite surprised how different it was to my Sony led TV downstairs. It is 7 years old so probably shouldn't of been surprised.
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    Nigel GoodwinNigel Goodwin Posts: 58,517
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    Matt35 wrote: »
    Got my pioneer plasma upstairs for sky multiroom. I remembered how fantastic picture was but when i switched it I was quite surprised how different it was to my Sony led TV downstairs. It is 7 years old so probably shouldn't of been surprised.

    What spec was the Plasma?, it was probably not Full HD and they look pretty poor on HD because of it (unlike HD Ready LCD which look great on HD). The early Plasma's weren't even SD resolution, and were only 480 pixels.
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    Matt35Matt35 Posts: 30,132
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    What spec was the Plasma?, it was probably not Full HD and they look pretty poor on HD because of it (unlike HD Ready LCD which look great on HD). The early Plasma's weren't even SD resolution, and were only 480 pixels.

    No it wasn't full HD. It was 7 series tv. Got it in 07.http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/televisions/plasma-and-lcd-tvs/pioneer-pdp-427xd-113273/review
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    StigStig Posts: 12,446
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    Matt35 wrote: »

    I still prefer my plasma to LED, which is why I'm waiting for something genuinely better to replace it. At the moment, OLED is the logical replacement.
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    alanwarwicalanwarwic Posts: 28,396
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    OLED has Plasma screen like qualities though recent improvements are said to make it a 'best of both worlds' tech.

    With costlier to run and make Plasma now dead tech, I am mildly sure OLED is the future.
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    Matt35Matt35 Posts: 30,132
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    alanwarwic wrote: »
    OLED has Plasma screen like qualities though recent improvements are said to make it a 'best of both worlds' tech.

    With costlier to run and make Plasma now dead tech, I am mildly sure OLED is the future.

    Unfortunately though if i want to play games on my TV then its not gonna be suitable. Don't know why reviews say its good for gaming if it isn't.
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    StigStig Posts: 12,446
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    Matt35 wrote: »
    Unfortunately though if i want to play games on my TV then its not gonna be suitable. Don't know why reviews say its good for gaming if it isn't.

    Input lag.
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    Matt35Matt35 Posts: 30,132
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    Stig wrote: »
    Input lag.

    And image retention.
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    treefr0gtreefr0g Posts: 23,655
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    The concept really appeals to me. I love my rich dark blacks.

    What puts me off is the fact that so few companies are producing them.

    If Sony get onboard I might be interested but Inwill definitely not be buying a curved scree.
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    Steve_WhelanSteve_Whelan Posts: 1,986
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    treefr0g wrote: »
    The concept really appeals to me. I love my rich dark blacks.

    What puts me off is the fact that so few companies are producing them.

    If Sony get onboard I might be interested but Inwill definitely not be buying a curved scree.

    At the moment LG are the only player in the OLED game, Panasonics OLED TVs have screens made by LG as is Sony's upcoming OLED TV, even Samung is rumoured to be having another crack at OLED again with an LG sourced screen.
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    StigStig Posts: 12,446
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    At the moment LG are the only player in the OLED game, Panasonics OLED TVs have screens made by LG as is Sony's upcoming OLED TV, even Samung is rumoured to be having another crack at OLED again with an LG sourced screen.
    Samsung and other companies make the small OLED screens for phones etc. but nobody apart from LG seems to want to make the huge investment into making the large screens for TVs.
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    skinjskinj Posts: 3,383
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    Just installed the new 65" Panasonic OLED and have to say the picture quality was amazing. I know it's an LG screen inside but the extra work that Panasonic put in on the picture processing makes a big difference. Yeah, it's £8k but that'll come down to sensible pricing and will be the replacement for my trusted Plasma in a couple of years!
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    Matt35Matt35 Posts: 30,132
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    skinj wrote: »
    Just installed the new 65" Panasonic OLED and have to say the picture quality was amazing. I know it's an LG screen inside but the extra work that Panasonic put in on the picture processing makes a big difference. Yeah, it's £8k but that'll come down to sensible pricing and will be the replacement for my trusted Plasma in a couple of years!

    Is it a 4k oled tv?
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    Matt35Matt35 Posts: 30,132
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    skinj wrote: »

    I wonder how good the LG 4k oled TV is? It's LG so people usually say mid range tvs so best wait for the big names.
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    Nigel GoodwinNigel Goodwin Posts: 58,517
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    Matt35 wrote: »
    I wonder how good the LG 4k oled TV is? It's LG so people usually say mid range tvs so best wait for the big names.

    As skinj said, Panasonic (and Sony) use better processing than the middling brands, so tend to give better results from identical panels - but go and look at them, and see what YOU think.
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    witham1witham1 Posts: 291
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    I am looking at getting an LG OLED flat screen tv. The price has come down a lot recently with Curry’s selling a 4k version for £2500. I don’t think they are a failed technology – why would they give you a 5 year guarantee in that case!
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    Nigel GoodwinNigel Goodwin Posts: 58,517
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    witham1 wrote: »
    I don’t think they are a failed technology

    Promised so much, for so many years, and still haven't delivered - that's failure in my book.
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    alanwarwicalanwarwic Posts: 28,396
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    You could buy a 15" OLED TV for £1000+ just a couple of years ago.

    In your book I expect the Ferrari Dino was a failure too, and all hybrid cars too.
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