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Training to be a solicitor - am I too old?

RedRose9191RedRose9191 Posts: 748
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Basically it's always been a dream of mine to work in the legal profession, particularly as a solicitor. When I was 17, I actually started applying for college courses with the aim of going to university afterwards to study Law, however my dad put me off the idea and told me I wasn't good enough to do it. That knocked my confidence a lot so I abandoned the idea.

Right now I'm claiming JSA and have been since March after my hours were cut down at work to a ridiculous seven hours a week. Before that I used to work full time. Since then I've been thinking a lot and I still would like to be a solicitor. I went to a college open evening last week for a HEFC course and they've accepted me to start it in September but there's this nagging thought in the back of my head that tells me I'm too old and I'm just crazy for even thinking about it.

I'm 22 now and if all goes to plan, will be 23 when I go to university next year, so I'll be 27 by the time I even get to become a trainee solicitor. My dad thinks I'm too old, which he keeps bringing up randomly in conversations and suggesting if I wouldn't want to be a nurse/teacher/midwife/*insert profession here* instead :rolleyes: none of which I have any interest in.

So am I just crazy in wanting to train at this age? You can tell me if I am :D
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    duffsdadduffsdad Posts: 11,143
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    I work for a solicitors firm and one of our secretary's is due to graduate this summer. She's 34. If it's what you want go for it. The only thing she found difficult was being older she had financial commitments (rent etc) so balancing work and study has been hard.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 581
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    Never too old! I'm on a law degree and there's a woman in her 40s in my class. Ignore what your dad says, if you want to do it, go ahead and do it!
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    smudges dadsmudges dad Posts: 36,989
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    Why is your dad trying to hold you back? You are never two old (well, I wouldn't recommend a 90 year old learning the trapeze) so go and do it.
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    CitySlickerCitySlicker Posts: 10,414
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    Another one here saying go for it. I've met many people who went to uni and aren't sure why they went other than racking up lots of debts and ending up in a job that didn't consider their degree to be of any relevance. You on the other hand have a clear career you want to be involved in.

    The only thing I would suggest to be cautious of is how you support yourself whilst undertaking the degree. Student loan is probably the way to go but I'm a million miles from being any use when it comes to student finances. Once you've worked out how you do this bit (because you won't be able to claim Jobseeker's Allowance whilst studying) then I'd be going for it.

    Good luck.
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    Baz OBaz O Posts: 1,642
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    Good luck to you and I hope you get a training contract. I know a few people who have a Law Degree but just can't get a Trainee Solicitors contract
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4,864
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    A friend of mine was in aviation engineering. Decided he was a bit bored and started studying for a law degree - at 57! Never too old. :)
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    *Clem**Clem* Posts: 4,101
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    You are far from being too old! Go for it and don't take any notice of your dad. Why doesn't he want you to succeed??
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    lea_uklea_uk Posts: 9,648
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    Not too old at all. Being a bit more experienced in life might help you actually.
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    ZentonZenton Posts: 883
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    I agree with your dad, although I can understand you wanting to achieve a dream and persue a profession in law it's very hard as another poster has said to get a trainee position.

    I'd play it safe and train to be a midwife, there's a huge demand for midwives and they are always needed
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    kyresakyresa Posts: 16,629
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    It's easy enough to get on the courses, it's the training contract that is the hard part! Every year 10,000 people chasing 5,000 contracts and during the downturn even lower. You do the maths.

    Law always seems to be so glamorous. (Note people who are doing a "law degree" always have to tell you even though it seems 50% of the student population are doing them these days!!)*

    Go and do law at university if that's what you really want... but expect to chase a training contract for years! (have a look at the website rollonfriday to see how much trouble some people have!)

    Plus the amount of regulation and paperwork you have to complete is unreal!


    *ok so that is a slight exaggeration!!
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    1fab1fab Posts: 20,052
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    You're definitely not too old. Follow your dream! The years will pass by anyway, so get started as soon as poss. Also, I would have thought that law was one of those professions where being slightly more mature would be an advantage. Good luck with your career! :)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 345
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    If you don`t go ahead, in years to come, when you are a LOT older, you will wish you had gone with your dream which has always been there at the back of your mind. Your father should be
    encouraging.
    If things don`t work out at least you won`t have the `if only` regrets. Go for it, have a go - it is the only way to find out if the law is for you.
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    RedRose9191RedRose9191 Posts: 748
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    Zenton wrote: »
    I agree with your dad, although I can understand you wanting to achieve a dream and persue a profession in law it's very hard as another poster has said to get a trainee position.

    I'd play it safe and train to be a midwife, there's a huge demand for midwives and they are always needed

    But I don't want to be a midwife :confused: Even if I don't go on to be a solicitor, I certainly wouldn't become a midwife. I realise it's hard but nothing in life worth going for is easy. Even if I don't get a trainee position after my degree, at least hopefully my degree will help me in other ways. A lot of jobs these days I look at seem to require a degree.

    I just think I've got to at least try, even if it doesn't work out.
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    CitySlickerCitySlicker Posts: 10,414
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    kyresa wrote: »
    It's easy enough to get on the courses, it's the training contract that is the hard part! Every year 10,000 people chasing 5,000 contracts and during the downturn even lower. You do the maths.

    That to me seems pretty favourable to the OP - that's a one in two chance of getting a contract, thinking about how many people apply for other jobs and don't get through I think the figures you quote are excellent.
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    scottie2121scottie2121 Posts: 11,284
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    Zenton wrote: »
    I agree with your dad, although I can understand you wanting to achieve a dream and persue a profession in law it's very hard as another poster has said to get a trainee position.

    I'd play it safe and train to be a midwife, there's a huge demand for midwives and they are always needed

    This made me laugh!!


    Up there with the best silly advice.
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    kyresakyresa Posts: 16,629
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    That to me seems pretty favourable to the OP - that's a one in two chance of getting a contract, thinking about how many people apply for other jobs and don't get through I think the figures you quote are excellent.


    Really? You are basing it purely on people only trying for one year. Here is the reality of the scenario:


    Year 2000 10,000 chasing contracts, 5,000 unsuccessful. 5000 try again following year.

    Year 2001 another 10,000 graduates plus the 5000 from the year before who are trying again. Still only 5000 contracts 2,500 from 2000 try again, 5000 from 2001 try again.

    Multiply on and on....
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    smudges dadsmudges dad Posts: 36,989
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    Not all people with law degrees are solicitors. There are contract, business, commercial etc lawyers
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    lozengerlozenger Posts: 4,881
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    A law degree is an excellent foundation for all matter of careers. My friend runs a legal firm which specialize in copyright for the digital creative media industry (huge growth area) - it's really fun, interesting and different every day. Another friend is a teacher, another a lawyer, another is a consultant etc...

    And 22 is really young. I am thinking about a degree and I'm 45 with a 10 yr old son :eek:

    Follow your instincts and go for it :)
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    kyresakyresa Posts: 16,629
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    OP, you can follow your dream.. But if you want to be a solicitor, be very mindful of this:

    http://www.lawgazette.co.uk/opinion/comment/the-training-contract-lottery

    It's really not an easy path (I'm on it!!!)
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    Mystical123Mystical123 Posts: 15,822
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    Not all people with law degrees are solicitors. There are contract, business, commercial etc lawyers

    "contract, business, commercial etc" lawyers are all solicitors, just not necessarily in private practice in a law firm. People work in-house at big corporations or specialise, but they still have to qualify to practice, and that includes training. Training contracts can be found at all sizes of firm and even some in-house legal departments as well as the Government Legal Service, but a training contract still has to be completed.

    The distinction in terms of training is between barrister and solicitor, not between the types of law practised.

    There are other legal roles too, such as paralegals, which don't require training contracts, but they're not at the same level.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,240
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    I would say you are definitely not too old. I work for a accountancy firm and we have recently hired a lady in her early 40's to be a trainee accountant.

    Completely different industry but i'd say go for it :D
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    Keren-HappuchKeren-Happuch Posts: 2,171
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    Zenton wrote: »
    I agree with your dad, although I can understand you wanting to achieve a dream and persue a profession in law it's very hard as another poster has said to get a trainee position.

    I'd play it safe and train to be a midwife, there's a huge demand for midwives and they are always needed

    If you want to play it safe don't go into midwifery. The course is extremely hard to get onto, and if the OP isn't really interested they'll see right through her and there's no way she'd get in. There's not a huge demand for midwives either. There is a massive shortage yes but that doesn't mean the NHS are paying out for more jobs, because they aren't. There are newly qualified midwives out there who take ages to get a job, although some areas are better than others. Plus midwifery isn't the sort of job you should go into unless you really want it because it's seriously tough. <climbs off soap box>

    OP, your dad is being ridiculous. Why is 27 too old to be a solicitor but not too old to be a teacher or a midwife? :confused: What sort of area of law do you want to go into? Last time I looked into it the CPS weren't recruiting new trainees but that might have changed now. Becoming a solicitor is a hard slog and getting a training contract isn't easy but it is possible. My advice to you if you did go down this route is to get as much work experience as possible and network like mad. It's all about networking and internships nowadays. And you need £10,000 to do the LPC so start saving for it if you don't want to be bogged down by loans forever.
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    j4Rosej4Rose Posts: 5,482
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    22 definitely isn't too old. Do a Law degree and get as much experience as you can. It won't be easy, but fight for it if that's what you want to do.

    It seems like your dad is bitter about his own life and he's taking it out on you. Don't listen to his negativity.
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    Raquelos.Raquelos. Posts: 7,734
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    But I don't want to be a midwife :confused: Even if I don't go on to be a solicitor, I certainly wouldn't become a midwife. I realise it's hard but nothing in life worth going for is easy. Even if I don't get a trainee position after my degree, at least hopefully my degree will help me in other ways. A lot of jobs these days I look at seem to require a degree.

    I just think I've got to at least try, even if it doesn't work out.

    Yeah that was some random advice from Zenton!!

    Definitely go for it if it is something you are interested in, 22 is no age at all to start a course for this type of career. One thing you should look at when thinking about which university to study at is how much help they can provide in getting you into the world of work once you have qualified, some universities have excellent links with the business community which they use to get their graduates into trainee roles. It's definitely something to consider.

    Good luck:)
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    Judge MentalJudge Mental Posts: 18,593
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    Basically it's always been a dream of mine to work in the legal profession, particularly as a solicitor. When I was 17, I actually started applying for college courses with the aim of going to university afterwards to study Law, however my dad put me off the idea and told me I wasn't good enough to do it. That knocked my confidence a lot so I abandoned the idea.

    Right now I'm claiming JSA and have been since March after my hours were cut down at work to a ridiculous seven hours a week. Before that I used to work full time. Since then I've been thinking a lot and I still would like to be a solicitor. I went to a college open evening last week for a HEFC course and they've accepted me to start it in September but there's this nagging thought in the back of my head that tells me I'm too old and I'm just crazy for even thinking about it.

    I'm 22 now and if all goes to plan, will be 23 when I go to university next year, so I'll be 27 by the time I even get to become a trainee solicitor. My dad thinks I'm too old, which he keeps bringing up randomly in conversations and suggesting if I wouldn't want to be a nurse/teacher/midwife/*insert profession here* instead :rolleyes: none of which I have any interest in.

    So am I just crazy in wanting to train at this age? You can tell me if I am :D

    I'm not going the read anyone else's advice before responding be ause I feel that strongly about this.

    22 is not too old to pursue ANY career with the possible exception of being a child model/actor!

    You will probably have to work for another 50 years. For goodness sake let it be something you love.

    My unequivocal answer to you is to go for it. Do not be held back by family members with their own hang ups and agendas.

    I hope I see you back on here in a few years time celebrating your graduation. Seriously, go for it . Please!
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