UK schools insufficiently supporting Roma children...

ZaphodskiZaphodski Posts: 4,687
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I kid you not.

Perhaps they (and indigenous children) shouldn't be allowed into schools until they can behave properly?

'It says the Department for Education should consider how the allocation of existing funding could more accurately reflect the changes in the number of eligible pupils on roll throughout the school year.'

So money will be diverted away from financially overstretched departments....? I'm already exasperated when asked for a 'voluntary contribution' towards an activity that is important for your child's education, that will not occur unless the funds roll in.... Arghhh!

I dread to think what our education system will be like when I have Grandchildren, all for the sake of freedom of movement around the EU...

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  • wazzyboywazzyboy Posts: 13,346
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    Schools insufficiently supporting children, or Government insufficiently supporting schools?

    I rather think it says the latter,

    Not that some will think it matters.
  • AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    Zaphodski wrote: »
    I kid you not.

    Perhaps they (and indigenous children) shouldn't be allowed into schools until they can behave properly?

    'It says the Department for Education should consider how the allocation of existing funding could more accurately reflect the changes in the number of eligible pupils on roll throughout the school year.'

    So money will be diverted away from financially overstretched departments....? I'm already exasperated when asked for a 'voluntary contribution' towards an activity that is important for your child's education, that will not occur unless the funds roll in.... Arghhh!

    I dread to think what our education system will be like when I have Grandchildren, all for the sake of freedom of movement around the EU...

    They are typical of a particular group in society that does not favour or value formal education.


    This week new analysis of the 2011 census has been released by the Office for National Statistics. It revealed that of the 58,000 people who identified themselves as being of Gypsy/Traveller ethnicity, 60% had no formal qualifications whatsoever. This is almost three times higher than the figure for England and Wales as a whole, which is 23%.

    It's a depressing picture that will be all too familiar to those still specialising in Traveller education, following severe government cuts to provisions. Progress seems horribly slow since the 1967 Plowden report, when things were nonetheless far worse: fewer than 10% of Gypsy and Traveller children went to school at all, and almost all adults were completely illiterate.

    In a modern context, the figures still paint a bleak scene. Yet this cannot simply be put down – as the Britannica once claimed – to a basic lack of potential among Gypsies to excel in education. The reality behind these figures is a complex web, a series of factors influencing how Gypsies and Travellers do at school and in further and higher education.


    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/22/gypsies-lagging-education-gypsies-travellers
  • wazzyboywazzyboy Posts: 13,346
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    I suspect segregation from other schoolchildren back home is a big problem, the kids just living here won't have had it but their parents coming over might.
  • worzilworzil Posts: 4,590
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    They may be lacking when it comes to literacy but there is nothing wrong with their maths when it comes to money.
    The new influx of Roma take the free market literally they just go and help themselves .
  • Mark39LondonMark39London Posts: 3,977
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    worzil wrote: »
    They may be lacking when it comes to literacy but there is nothing wrong with their maths when it comes to money.
    The new influx of Roma take the free market literally they just go and help themselves .

    Hmm, I don't know. They seem to have a huge problem completing TAX returns... :D
  • rwouldrwould Posts: 5,260
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    The problem is often they do not fit in to the school system and the rules that are in place. They have to be registered to a school but may not attend there often. Parents disregard the exams and some have even ensured their children are not around when exams are due and so they are listed as Absent.

    The Government need to come up with a better way of dealing with Traveller pupils as the current system fails them and the school.
  • TheTruth1983TheTruth1983 Posts: 13,462
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    UK schools are insufficiently supporting everyone. No wonder home schooling is on the increase in Northern Ireland.
  • alaninmcralaninmcr Posts: 1,685
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    wazzyboy wrote: »
    Schools insufficiently supporting children, or Government insufficiently supporting schools?

    I rather think it says the latter,

    Not that some will think it matters.

    It actually sounds like parents insufficiently supporting children. Until the parents believe that their children's education matters, there is not much that anyone else can do to improve the situation.
  • BelfastGuy125BelfastGuy125 Posts: 7,515
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    UK schools are insufficiently supporting everyone. No wonder home schooling is on the increase in Northern Ireland.

    RBAI supported me fine.
  • wazzyboywazzyboy Posts: 13,346
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    alaninmcr wrote: »
    It actually sounds like parents insufficiently supporting children. Until the parents believe that their children's education matters, there is not much that anyone else can do to improve the situation.

    You can apply that to a lot of kids, sadly.
  • culturemancultureman Posts: 11,701
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    Zaphodski wrote: »
    I kid you not.

    Perhaps they (and indigenous children) shouldn't be allowed into schools until they can behave properly?

    'It says the Department for Education should consider how the allocation of existing funding could more accurately reflect the changes in the number of eligible pupils on roll throughout the school year.'

    So money will be diverted away from financially overstretched departments....? I'm already exasperated when asked for a 'voluntary contribution' towards an activity that is important for your child's education, that will not occur unless the funds roll in.... Arghhh!

    I dread to think what our education system will be like when I have Grandchildren, all for the sake of freedom of movement around the EU...

    Seems a very confused and hence confusing article. It appears to conflate two quite disparate groups - namely British/Irish Travellers and a subset of people from Eastern Europe. The rationale seemingly little more than that the label 'Roma' can be applied to both groupings.

    I live in an area with a lot of Slovak Roma kids. And they are culturally and behaviorally very different from Gypsy Travellers' kids.
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