My point about the plane seats was intended to show that people deemed to be 'overweight' can turn it to their advantage by letting the prejuduce of the '''''normal''''' rebound on them. This amuses me. It will continue to do so, perhaps even more so following your rather pedantic grumbles.
But it's not 'prejudice' to avoid sitting beside an overweight person. It's common sense, because you will be uncomfortable and won't have enough room.
My point about the plane seats was intended to show that people deemed to be 'overweight' can turn it to their advantage by letting the prejuduce of the '''''normal''''' rebound on them. This amuses me. It will continue to do so, perhaps even more so following your rather pedantic grumbles.
Oh I'm not grumbling. Wherever possible I avoid fat people on public transport and if a fat person comes and half sits on me then I will get up and move to another seat rather than spend my journey in discomfort. It's really no bother.
I was just wondering why you thought your weight gave you some right to be rude to non-fat people. You say it's because it amuses you - that's all I wanted to know.
But it's not 'prejudice' to avoid sitting beside an overweight person. It's common sense, because you will be uncomfortable and won't have enough room.
Well if it's any consolation it's more comfiortable for us not be squeezed in too.
Well if it's any consolation it's more comfiortable for us not be squeezed in too.
I'm sure it is, but what has that got to do with it? The reason you're squeezed in is because you're taking up so much of the seat that it becomes difficult for it to accommodate two people. That is not the fault of the other person in the seat.
I'm sure it is, but what has that got to do with it? The reason you're squeezed in is because you're taking up so much of the seat that it becomes difficult for it to accommodate two people. That is not the fault of the other person in the seat.
If you want to allocate blame (and you seem fairly keen to do so) the fault lies with the normative assumptions of those who design transport based on what an 'average' person is and how much room they need. I am sure exceptionally tall people find most bus/train/plane ceilings very low and people of restricted growth (if that's still the right phrase) find many switches too high on walls.
The minute a person's body falls outside a pretty narrow set of expectations, a lot of everyday life can get quite difficult.
Gaditano in answer to your earlier post I have no 'argument' with those you have labelled 'normal' as they arent throwing out insults to people with my body shape, you are - when surely you know how it feels?
you didnt end your little airoplane seats thing sayiong about 'normal sized people coming down the aisle' but you said 'scrawny, skinny, anorexic' - making yourself just as bad as anyone who is fattist, if not worse when you know how such body elitism can be painful.
Basically next to anyone at the back of the bus.
However, if I have a choice between seating next to a woman/girl (no matter her appearance) and a man/boy (no matter his appearance) I tend to choose the woman. I guess because of social constructs, I feel safer that way.
No difference though if they are children.
A few years ago I got on my train home and sat down near the front. Almost immediately was overwhelmed by the most horrendous smell. Looked up and right at the back was a real trampy tramp - filthy dirty and really stinky. Amazingly there was a normal looking woman sitting in the seat next to him! The smell was so bad I had to move carriages. She obviously had no sense of smell.
You don't have to sit in the specific seat listed in your reservation though. Although,strictly speaking,with some types of ticket you're meant to,and if you don't your ticket could be ruled invalid,but I've never come across a ticket inspector issuing a penalty fare to someone for not sitting in the specific seat.
You don't have to sit in the specific seat listed in your reservation though. Although,strictly speaking,with some types of ticket you're meant to,and if you don't your ticket could be ruled invalid,but I've never come across a ticket inspector issuing a penalty fare to someone for not sitting in the specific seat.
I saw a couple "told off" by the guard for not sitting in the right seats a couple of weeks ago. That said I often do that and no one has ever said anything so it's obviously just luck.
You know the scenario.. you get on a bus/train, there are no single seats left. How do you decide who to sit beside?
Do you sit beside the hot chick?
Do you sit anywhere?
Do you avoid the ones that look smelly?
Do you avoid sitting beside the fatties?
Or is it a case that in your country you sit on the roof like every other person?
Me, i don't really care as long as its not a gobby teen or fatty taking my share of the seat
You know those seats at the back of the downstairs that face backwards instead of forwards, well I think it's best to avoid them as people tend to sit on the forward facing seats opposite them with their feet on them (so they get dirty).....
If you want to allocate blame (and you seem fairly keen to do so) the fault lies with the normative assumptions of those who design transport based on what an 'average' person is and how much room they need. I am sure exceptionally tall people find most bus/train/plane ceilings very low and people of restricted growth (if that's still the right phrase) find many switches too high on walls. The minute a person's body falls outside a pretty narrow set of expectations, a lot of everyday life can get quite difficult.
Nobody's allocating blame. We are saying there is a practical reason why people don't want to sit beside overweight people on buses, which has nothing to do with being fattist.
You seem very keen to see insults where none are intended.
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But it's not 'prejudice' to avoid sitting beside an overweight person. It's common sense, because you will be uncomfortable and won't have enough room.
Oh I'm not grumbling. Wherever possible I avoid fat people on public transport and if a fat person comes and half sits on me then I will get up and move to another seat rather than spend my journey in discomfort. It's really no bother.
I was just wondering why you thought your weight gave you some right to be rude to non-fat people. You say it's because it amuses you - that's all I wanted to know.
Well if it's any consolation it's more comfiortable for us not be squeezed in too.
I'm sure it is, but what has that got to do with it? The reason you're squeezed in is because you're taking up so much of the seat that it becomes difficult for it to accommodate two people. That is not the fault of the other person in the seat.
If you want to allocate blame (and you seem fairly keen to do so) the fault lies with the normative assumptions of those who design transport based on what an 'average' person is and how much room they need. I am sure exceptionally tall people find most bus/train/plane ceilings very low and people of restricted growth (if that's still the right phrase) find many switches too high on walls.
The minute a person's body falls outside a pretty narrow set of expectations, a lot of everyday life can get quite difficult.
Indeed
Gaditano in answer to your earlier post I have no 'argument' with those you have labelled 'normal' as they arent throwing out insults to people with my body shape, you are - when surely you know how it feels?
you didnt end your little airoplane seats thing sayiong about 'normal sized people coming down the aisle' but you said 'scrawny, skinny, anorexic' - making yourself just as bad as anyone who is fattist, if not worse when you know how such body elitism can be painful.
However, if I have a choice between seating next to a woman/girl (no matter her appearance) and a man/boy (no matter his appearance) I tend to choose the woman. I guess because of social constructs, I feel safer that way.
No difference though if they are children.
You don't have to sit in the specific seat listed in your reservation though. Although,strictly speaking,with some types of ticket you're meant to,and if you don't your ticket could be ruled invalid,but I've never come across a ticket inspector issuing a penalty fare to someone for not sitting in the specific seat.
I saw a couple "told off" by the guard for not sitting in the right seats a couple of weeks ago. That said I often do that and no one has ever said anything so it's obviously just luck.
You know those seats at the back of the downstairs that face backwards instead of forwards, well I think it's best to avoid them as people tend to sit on the forward facing seats opposite them with their feet on them (so they get dirty).....
Nobody's allocating blame. We are saying there is a practical reason why people don't want to sit beside overweight people on buses, which has nothing to do with being fattist.
You seem very keen to see insults where none are intended.
That double negative means you try and sit next to people who do smell?