In which case there is no way they could have counted 666 stab wounds. I personally think that the 666 claim is sensationalism/assumption on the part of the original report.
What a completely tragic story though, I'm also surprised about the jovial replies on here compared to other similar frenzied stabbings (such as that New Cross stabbing a month or so ago)
Really? And that's what's happening here? I dunno....?
Yes, really; it's quite common for people to use humour as a defence mechanism in the most unexpected of circumstances, funerals, tragedy, horrific crimes etc...
I don't know if that's what happening here, just offering up a possible explanation.
Another possible explanation is that no subject is taboo when it comes to humour; although timing and the recipient audience are both key factors as to whether it is well received.
Yes, really; it's quite common for people to use humour as a denfence mechanism in the most unexpected of circumstances, funerals, tragedy, horrific crimes etc...
I don't know if that's what happening here, just offering up a possible explanation.
Another possible explanation is that no subject is taboo when it comes to humour; although timing and the recipient audience are both key factors as to whether it is well received.
Compare the reactions here to the thread on the Glamour Model who committed suicide - being treated as a serious discussion.
D'you think that it's therefore possible that this thread is so horrific that people are resorting to humour to deal with it, in comparison to the other thread?
Whatever the 'reason', it's off putting to see such comments. Is it wrong to challenge such responses?
Sometimes people do make jokes about people commiting suicide or dying like saying stuff like "Well I guess, it was off with her head...." and other things. Not everyone handles death so delicately esp on this site and when people die in uncommon ways.
Compare the reactions here to the thread on the Glamour Model who committed suicide - being treated as a serious discussion.
D'you think that it's therefore possible that this thread is so horrific that people are resorting to humour to deal with it, in comparison to the other thread?
Whatever the 'reason', it's off putting to see such comments. Is it wrong to challenge such responses?
Not at all.
As to comparing to another thread; I don't think there is much point. Threads develop differently for many reasons; all I have done is offered up a couple of possible reasons behind the jokes on this thread. I may well be wrong and all the people who posted jokes are actually horrid people with no conscience. I don't believe that though. Or there may be other reasons, like the one given by pickwick.
If you're unhappy with comments made on a thread you have every right to say so.
As to comparing to another thread; I don't think there is much point. Threads develop differently for many reasons; all I have done is offered up a couple of possible reasons behind the jokes on this thread. I may well be wrong and all the people who posted jokes are actually horrid people with no conscience. I don't believe that though. Or there may be other reasons, like the one given by pickwick.
If you're unhappy with comments made on a thread you have every right to say so.
I don't think people are 'horrid' here - just the comments some people have made. I think people can get carried away sometimes. And in so doing, can be offensive. That's a judgement on my part but I see I'm not alone.
Humour is often used as a defence mechanism against the horrors of the world.
To a certain extent.
But the majority of posts here have been humourous , rather than the odd one.
Would it have been the same if the teens had been British and the psuedo satanism link not been made? Would it have been the same if the victims had been younger (and British)?
Of course, no one can say their beliefs are wrong. All religious views are protected. Faith beats all, doesn't it?
Horrible story but you raise an interesting point. If the guy really believed what he was doing was making a sacrifice to his 'god', Satan, then should his belief be respected?
I certainly don't think so but many on here have argued in the past that all beliefs should be.
Horrible story but you raise an interesting point. If the guy really believed what he was doing was making a sacrifice to his 'god', Satan, then should his belief be respected?
I certainly don't think so but many on here have argued in the past that all beliefs should be.
I would think they meant as long as they aren't hurting anyone. Killing would be looked down upon even by those who believe in respecting other's beliefs.
Why is any number, be it 616 or 666, a number of the beast? Numbers just like any other numbers. Probably reading the Bible would answer that question.
Imagine if someone was born on June 6th 2006, 06/06/06, would that person be somehow devil?
Horrible story but you raise an interesting point. If the guy really believed what he was doing was making a sacrifice to his 'god', Satan, then should his belief be respected?
I certainly don't think so but many on here have argued in the past that all beliefs should be.
While I think any satanism angle is either a media fabrication or a mental health issue on the part of the killer, you raise a good point.
If truely the killer was killing because be believed his (religious) belief was right, is his belief equally valid to any other 'belief'? If not, why not?
I was about to say, 'What? A whole month early? :eek:' but then I realised...........:o
Either way, that's pretty ridiculous imo.
Heh, I didn't notice, I was too busy realising that I'd be more likely to get it induced on 6/6 and then draw a 666 on the crown of its head for a laugh This is why I should ever have kids...
I don't think people are 'horrid' here - just the comments some people have made. I think people can get carried away sometimes. And in so doing, can be offensive. That's a judgement on my part but I see I'm not alone.
I'd be surprised if you were alone.
I'm not personally offended by the jokes on this thread (there are other things which can offend me, which may not offend you), but I can see why people could be.
I'm not personally offended by the jokes on this thread (there are other things which can offend me, which may not offend you), but I can see why people could be.
I wonder if it's something about how people respond to the words on screen as opposed to hearing them? I guess levels of empathy and sympathy may/may not be similar on and off screen? Or perhaps one would be more likely to laugh at such humour if it were contextualised in an actual conversation.
Whatever the case...and even if this is a defence mechanism...it's still, IMO, unpleasant. As for defence mechanisms...do you mean of the psychodynamic school of thought?
Sorry I'm American, I didn't think to put it the British way
No problem
I knew you were American so should have realised anyway!
I do think it's crazy to mess with nature when it's not needed and induce your child to prevent them being born on any particular date though. What did those women do who went into labour earlier than expected on 6/6? Cross their legs tightly and hope for the best?
Modern Satanism of the Anton LaVey variety is more like atheism than anything else. Followers see themselves, rather than a God, as the ultimate power in their lives, which is pretty true.
That's pretty close, in laymans terms, to what I believe as a Satanist. The media really has a lot to answer for.
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In which case there is no way they could have counted 666 stab wounds. I personally think that the 666 claim is sensationalism/assumption on the part of the original report.
What a completely tragic story though, I'm also surprised about the jovial replies on here compared to other similar frenzied stabbings (such as that New Cross stabbing a month or so ago)
Really? And that's what's happening here? I dunno....?
Horrible, horrible event.
Very, very disturbing.
Yes, really; it's quite common for people to use humour as a defence mechanism in the most unexpected of circumstances, funerals, tragedy, horrific crimes etc...
I don't know if that's what happening here, just offering up a possible explanation.
Another possible explanation is that no subject is taboo when it comes to humour; although timing and the recipient audience are both key factors as to whether it is well received.
Compare the reactions here to the thread on the Glamour Model who committed suicide - being treated as a serious discussion.
D'you think that it's therefore possible that this thread is so horrific that people are resorting to humour to deal with it, in comparison to the other thread?
Whatever the 'reason', it's off putting to see such comments. Is it wrong to challenge such responses?
I would rather think that if my child had been killed, the last thing I'd be worried about would be people on the internet making jokes.
Not at all.
As to comparing to another thread; I don't think there is much point. Threads develop differently for many reasons; all I have done is offered up a couple of possible reasons behind the jokes on this thread. I may well be wrong and all the people who posted jokes are actually horrid people with no conscience. I don't believe that though. Or there may be other reasons, like the one given by pickwick.
If you're unhappy with comments made on a thread you have every right to say so.
I don't think people are 'horrid' here - just the comments some people have made. I think people can get carried away sometimes. And in so doing, can be offensive. That's a judgement on my part but I see I'm not alone.
To a certain extent.
But the majority of posts here have been humourous , rather than the odd one.
Would it have been the same if the teens had been British and the psuedo satanism link not been made? Would it have been the same if the victims had been younger (and British)?
Horrible story but you raise an interesting point. If the guy really believed what he was doing was making a sacrifice to his 'god', Satan, then should his belief be respected?
I certainly don't think so but many on here have argued in the past that all beliefs should be.
I would think they meant as long as they aren't hurting anyone. Killing would be looked down upon even by those who believe in respecting other's beliefs.
Imagine if someone was born on June 6th 2006, 06/06/06, would that person be somehow devil?
While I think any satanism angle is either a media fabrication or a mental health issue on the part of the killer, you raise a good point.
If truely the killer was killing because be believed his (religious) belief was right, is his belief equally valid to any other 'belief'? If not, why not?
I was about to say, 'What? A whole month early? :eek:' but then I realised...........:o
Either way, that's pretty ridiculous imo.
Heh, I didn't notice, I was too busy realising that I'd be more likely to get it induced on 6/6 and then draw a 666 on the crown of its head for a laugh
I'd be surprised if you were alone.
I'm not personally offended by the jokes on this thread (there are other things which can offend me, which may not offend you), but I can see why people could be.
I wonder if it's something about how people respond to the words on screen as opposed to hearing them? I guess levels of empathy and sympathy may/may not be similar on and off screen? Or perhaps one would be more likely to laugh at such humour if it were contextualised in an actual conversation.
Whatever the case...and even if this is a defence mechanism...it's still, IMO, unpleasant. As for defence mechanisms...do you mean of the psychodynamic school of thought?
Sorry I'm American, I didn't think to put it the British way
No problem
I knew you were American so should have realised anyway!
I do think it's crazy to mess with nature when it's not needed and induce your child to prevent them being born on any particular date though. What did those women do who went into labour earlier than expected on 6/6? Cross their legs tightly and hope for the best?
That's pretty close, in laymans terms, to what I believe as a Satanist. The media really has a lot to answer for.