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19E and 28E on a minidish - gaffa tape is all you need

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    Phil OwensPhil Owens Posts: 6,989
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    Having a play at 13° and lots of FTA stuff there. But what I want to do is swing it to 19.2E. What's the easiest way to do it (don't anyone say use a spanner).
    Not too good on these things, so stupid questions coming up .

    Fist question for starters.
    The dish is now pointing to 13E. Looking face on at the dish, which way do I need to swing it Just to give me a start?
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    carvellcarvell Posts: 732
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    To the right.

    www.dishpointer.com is very useful for things like that.

    Tell it your postcode, and it'll tell you where to point the dish for any set of satellites.
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    Phil OwensPhil Owens Posts: 6,989
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    carvell wrote: »
    To the right.

    www.dishpointer.com is very useful for things like that.

    Tell it your postcode, and it'll tell you where to point the dish for any set of satellites.

    Cheers, thought so, just best check.
    Thanks for the link, just about to Google it.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,842
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    use a sky dish... and a hacksaw & hotmelt ... aim at 16e ... then remove the lnb & splice 2 lnbs together [either side of the middle] - you have to get & mark each lnb's best position for focus & skew & offset ... first before cutting.

    Hmm! Like the sound of that for another cheeky little project to work on. Does that method work on a standard Zone 1 dish? Any photos of a working example? Might give it a try. I predict me having two f***ed LNB's by the end of it though... :D

    How's the gaffa tape holding out, Carvell?
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    SchnuffiSchnuffi Posts: 483
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    Its all well and good I am glad people are experimenting.
    But a proper multi lnb dish is not that expensive. Its good if it works but you will have no rain reserve and you will be disappointed if you will not be able to see a race because of weather. But on the other hand you have time to see if it indeed it works. but I wish you the best of luck.

    I bought this dish 3 or 4 years ago for around €50 it hase 5 lnb holders
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/65781601@N03/5988771564/in/photostream
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 19,409
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    Anyone who has 19E already set up might want to watch the Astra 1N launch tomorrow night.

    Its on 11023H 22000 5/6. This is a fairly new frequency so you may need to add it.

    Launch window opens at 2253BST and coverage will start about 2230.
    The channel is up and running carrying an ASTRA tuning card
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 4
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    Hi everyone, this is the first time I post on DS, I've been a long time follower of these forums for a long time, but until now, I've had nothing useful to post!

    Good job on that setup Carvell, I was inspired by this and had a go myself, and can confirm that it works perfectly with a Zinwell Quad LNB, as pictured below:

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/64/sam0992f.jpg/

    This literally took me two minutes to get a good quality signal, taped it in place, and it's holding strong!

    I've linked this with my other dish pointing at 5W to get a good range of French language channels :)
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    carvellcarvell Posts: 732
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    Nice work ChrisEngland - hopefully we'll turn the country into a nation of gaffa taped LNBs..!

    Sat.Deelay - I've had to unplug it for the moment because I need two feeds for 28.2E. Hopefully a diseqc switch will have arrived for me today though and I'll be able to plug it back in, just in time for the 1N launch. It certainly doesn't look like the LNB has moved at all so hopefully all is well.
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    GneissGneiss Posts: 14,555
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    Phil Owens wrote: »
    Right, the dish is at 13°E.. Tuned a few channels in, including The Pentagon Channel. Pain inputting all the frequencies one by one..
    So what's worth tuning in at 13° E ?

    Quite a lot of free Polish and Italian channels, RTL Switzerland, a few USA Channels including a movie channel calle the Iranian Movie Channel (haven't tried it myself), the typical crappy porn channels...

    Quite a good selection depending on what you want...

    Phil Owens wrote: »
    Having a play at 13° and lots of FTA stuff there. But what I want to do is swing it to 19.2E. What's the easiest way to do it (don't anyone say use a spanner).
    Not too good on these things, so stupid questions coming up .

    Fist question for starters.
    The dish is now pointing to 13E. Looking face on at the dish, which way do I need to swing it Just to give me a start?
    Further east, to your right if you are facing the dish...
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 36
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    We are moving soon and I am thinking it would now be worth taking the sky mini dish with me when we go. Set it up at our new place for this sort of messing about.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,842
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    I've just done a gaffa tape mod to get 13E and 19.2E with an old 60cm dish. I had to replace the old LNB as it wasn't a universal one, but all seems good so far!!

    I focused the dish on 13E, and held the second LNB to the side of the first until I got a decent signal. Now held together with tape and the LNBs are connected to a Diseqc switch that I bought for about £4.

    Might take some pictures and upload them. It's flimsy as hell at the moment, but I'll probably add some cable ties to make it more secure.

    Shall give it a full test this afternoon with Man Utd vs. Man City on Sport1 at 19.2E... ;)

    @Carvell - I take it you have a non-Sky box? I don't believe the switch will work with Dodgyboxes.
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    theAREtheARE Posts: 1,847
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    I'm interested in the experiences of anyone who has tried this.
    How does the signal hold up in rain etc.

    I've got a Humax Foxsat HD box coming that I'm going to be using - so until that arrives I cant do much.

    Once it arrives I'm going to start experimenting.

    If the rough and ready solution in this thread will work then that's great. Otherwise might still consider a motorised or multi LNB dish
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    carvellcarvell Posts: 732
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    Mine's still up and working fine. I tried it in the heavy rain the other day and although the signal quality decreased somewhat, the picture on RTL was still fine.
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    ProDaveProDave Posts: 11,398
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    Some cable ties around the tape will stop it unwrapping.

    Don't forget if you try this on a zone 2 dish (or larger), the LNB separation will be larger.

    For my own DIY multiple LNB dish, I used 40mm plastic pipe clamps to clamp the LNB's to a metal strip.

    You should be able to use the sky box to receive RTL from Astra 1 using Add Channels, but you will need a manual LNB switch (or the faff of unplugging one dish and plugging the other in)

    Nobody needs a sky subscription just to watch F1.
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    jthspacejthspace Posts: 189
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    CPC Farnell have a range of satellite bits and pieces, in particular a dual (and a quad) LNB holder. The dual LNB holder is £10.

    http://cpc.farnell.com/triax/300719/twin-lnb-holder-for-td-dishes/dp/SE00193

    Jeff
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    ProDaveProDave Posts: 11,398
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    jthspace wrote: »
    CPC Farnell have a range of satellite bits and pieces, in particular a dual (and a quad) LNB holder. The dual LNB holder is £10.

    http://cpc.farnell.com/triax/300719/twin-lnb-holder-for-td-dishes/dp/SE00193

    Jeff

    Yes, but that won't fit a Sky minidish (at least not without some DIY mechanical alterations)

    Good price and neat solution if you are prepared to "make it fit"
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    YorkshireTeaYorkshireTea Posts: 1,936
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    Sky are going to go crazy!!!! 19e on a standard dish with no adjustments required to the existing sky setup . :eek:
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    ProDaveProDave Posts: 11,398
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    Sky are going to go crazy!!!! 19e on a standard dish with no adjustments required to the existing sky setup . :eek:

    Will raise some eyebrows when someone with a DIY added second LNB calls sky out for some other problem. I wonder what the sky installer will do (just rip the second LNB off and leave it hanging is my guess)
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    carvellcarvell Posts: 732
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    Why would they do that? They aren't going to turn up, turn their nose up in disgust and rip it off the dish! They're not animals!
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    pedro2000ukpedro2000uk Posts: 2,775
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    ProDave wrote: »
    Will raise some eyebrows when someone with a DIY added second LNB calls sky out for some other problem. I wonder what the sky installer will do (just rip the second LNB off and leave it hanging is my guess)

    more like stare at it scratching his head ... 19 what? you mean there's others..:D
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 193
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    Major thanks to whoever thought of this wonderful idea.

    After much deliberation i ventured up the ladder, and gingerly tried this method out.
    Duck tape no worky, cellotape now worky, cable tie..... ker ching ker ching. 90% signal.

    Now as i had robbed the spair dish pointing at 15 west of its LNB i've had to put the yeee old ancient monobloc back on, and still manage to pull in a decent signal via the diseq switch. the other side of it doesnt work though but no matter.
    so to end this story on a high note: The mrs has her sky in the bedroom, sky in the living room, and i have my german tv in the kitchen my msnbc in the kitchen and hopefully soon the sky back in the kitchen,

    sorry for the rant, just so excited i've been without german tv for almost 4 months due to a rather large pesky tree
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    I'm thinking of doing this as I've got a spare Mini Dish LNB and bracket, but it's a LNB for the new style Mini Dish, and I was wondering if anyone has tried this with one as I don't know weather the new bracket would work or not?

    Roland
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    rjfisherrjfisher Posts: 522
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    Rolandh wrote: »
    I'm thinking of doing this as I've got a spare Mini Dish LNB and bracket, but it's a LNB for the new style Mini Dish, and I was wondering if anyone has tried this with one as I don't know weather the new bracket would work or not?

    Roland

    The bracket that cam with your second LBNB isn't going to help you much. Your 19.2 LNB needs to be positioned to the right of the 28.2 LNB. You've got two options really:

    1) you tie the new LNB to the existing LNB using either gaffa tape, cable ties etc, potentially putting some little bits of packing in to get the angle and distance between the LNBs right

    2) as it's a new dish the LNBs should have 40mm round necks so you could get a bracket that can be fitted round the necks of the two LNBs or you use something like a pair of 40mm pipe clips screwed together.
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    rjfisher wrote: »
    The bracket that cam with your second LBNB isn't going to help you much. Your 19.2 LNB needs to be positioned to the right of the 28.2 LNB. You've got two options really:

    1) you tie the new LNB to the existing LNB using either gaffa tape, cable ties etc, potentially putting some little bits of packing in to get the angle and distance between the LNBs right

    2) as it's a new dish the LNBs should have 40mm round necks so you could get a bracket that can be fitted round the necks of the two LNBs or you use something like a pair of 40mm pipe clips screwed together.
    , if not it looks like I'm going to have to attempt the gaffa tape job?

    Roland

    Would this bracket do the job
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 204
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    Rolandh wrote: »
    , if not it looks like I'm going to have to attempt the gaffa tape job?

    Roland

    Would this bracket do the job
    That would work on a 60cm dish but think you would not get the lnbs close enough for a 43cm minidish.
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