Amanda Knox defence fund

fefsterfefster Posts: 7,388
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This is not about her innocence or guilt, there is another thread on that and it's been done to death.

What do you think about Knox's defence fund which she appears to still be collecting for here: http://www.amandaknox.com/blog/

Do you think she should still be collecting? Is it fair enough due to the costs she incurred or is it in bad taste?

My thoughts are, I would like to know how much has been collected and what it has been spent on. I wonder if it is a registered charity.
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  • annette kurtenannette kurten Posts: 39,543
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    she`s probably still paying, why`s it in any more bad taste now than it was before?

    [not that i think it`s a matter of taste anyway].
  • Seamus SweeneySeamus Sweeney Posts: 3,997
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    fefster wrote: »
    This is not about her innocence or guilt, there is another thread on that and it's been done to death.

    What do you think about Knox's defence fund which she appears to still be collecting for here: http://www.amandaknox.com/blog/

    Do you think she should still be collecting? Is it fair enough due to the costs she incurred or is it in bad taste?

    My thoughts are, I would like to know how much has been collected and what it has been spent on. I wonder if it is a registered charity.

    No I don't think she should be collecting, and yes immensely bad taste..and as you say, irrespective of guilt or innocence.

    Compare and contrast her with a confirmed UK victim of crime - Alan Barnes.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2932772/Disabled-pensioner-Alan-Barnes-given-12-000-wishers-shock-mugging.html

    He didn't try to collect money, instead it was the wonderful Katie Cutler who set up the fund that went viral. And even then, it was the victim Alan who pulled the plug on the fundraising when it reached £330,000 in record time..because he felt guilty about accepting seemingly endless amounts of money.

    An inspirational man and fund raiser (Katie) vs someone who is seemingly out to collect money from everyone and anyone prepared to give her money. Her story alone is set to make her rich, and the appeal smacks of greed to the nth degree.
  • barbelerbarbeler Posts: 23,827
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    She has absolutely no shame and I wouldn't be surprised if her agent is already lining up her own perfume and make-up brands to the book and film deals.
  • EvieJEvieJ Posts: 5,959
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    Could someone please provide the info re the fund, I can't open the link.
  • annette kurtenannette kurten Posts: 39,543
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    EvieJ wrote: »
    Could someone please provide the info re the fund, I can't open the link.

    it`s a small donate button in the top corner.
  • Evo102Evo102 Posts: 13,630
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    No I don't think she should be collecting, and yes immensely bad taste..and as you say, irrespective of guilt or innocence.

    Compare and contrast her with a confirmed UK victim of crime - Alan Barnes.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2932772/Disabled-pensioner-Alan-Barnes-given-12-000-wishers-shock-mugging.html

    He didn't try to collect money, instead it was the wonderful Katie Cutler who set up the fund that went viral. And even then, it was the victim Alan who pulled the plug on the fundraising when it rea3ched £330,000 in record time..because he felt guilty about accepting seemingly endless amounts of money.

    An inspirational man and fund raiser (Katie) vs someone who is seemingly out to collect money from everyone and anyone prepared to give her money. Her story alone is set to make her rich, and the appeal smacks of greed to the nth degree.

    What a strange analogy, Alan Barnes isn't defending himself from a murder charge in a foreign country as far as I am aware:confused:

    This is probably a better comparison from the UK.

    http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/hundreds-of-supporters-turn-out-to-raise-125779
    HUNDREDS of people joined the friends and family of a murder suspect Luke Walker at a pub fund-raiser as efforts to secure his release gained momentum.

    Barman Luke, aged 22, from Brierley Hill, is in custody in Crete on suspicion of killing his girlfriend Chelsea Hyndman although witnesses have told Greek prosecutors that he was elsewhere when she sustained fatal injuries. Lukes father, Patrick, flew back to Britain on Saturday and attended the event at his local, the Dock And Iron in Delph Road, yesterday.
  • Seamus SweeneySeamus Sweeney Posts: 3,997
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    Evo102 wrote: »
    What a strange analogy, Alan Barnes isn't defending himself from a murder charge in a foreign country as far as I am aware:confused:

    This is probably a better comparison from the UK.

    [ url]http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/hundreds-of-supporters-turn-out-to-raise-125779[/url]

    It's an apt analogy in terms of highlighting the difference between someone with principles, and someone who has none.

    Abstract a correlation in cases admittedly. The basic tenent holds up in terms of shining a light on someone who is decent vs someone who is now assured a very successful financial future due to the publicity garnered.
  • Dr. ClawDr. Claw Posts: 7,375
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    It's an apt analogy in terms of highlighting the difference between someone with principles, and someone who has none.

    Abstract a correlation in cases admittedly. The basic tenent holds up in terms of shining a light on someone who is decent vs someone who is now assured a very successful financial future due to the publicity garnered.

    she was put in prison for 4 years for a crime she didnt commit. all your posts says is that people are different and everybody already knows that. some people fight for themselves while others just take it and move on. i'd be wanting millions if i was in her shoes
  • EvieJEvieJ Posts: 5,959
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    No, I don't think its in bad taste. She has immense costs to cover, people can choose to help or not whichever is their preference.

    Will I be donating, no. Would I ever donate in a case like this, perhaps for eg Barry George and I certainly wouldn't see it as him attempting to profit from someone's death.

    What is in bad taste IMO is people continuing to punish someone who has been punished for 7 years and will continue to be affected for the rest of her life for a crime she didn't comit.

    Ok, its difficult to keep up the hatred in light of the final ruling but don't think this should be used as an opportunity to continue to "bash" Amanda.
  • Seamus SweeneySeamus Sweeney Posts: 3,997
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    Dr. Claw wrote: »
    she was put in prison for 4 years for a crime she didnt commit. all your posts says is that people are different and everybody already knows that. some people fight for themselves while others just take it and move on. i'd be wanting millions if i was in her shoes

    And would that include you setting up a fund for money from the public, despite the certainty that your case is going to bring in more money from the media alone, than you would ever earn or rightfully claim from a court for wrongful imprisonment..??

    As you say, you'd be wanting millions in her shoes. You just fail spectacularly at reading between the lines. This young lady is a walking piggy bank, knows it and still has the front to put up a page for donations.

    If you don't get a read from that as to the person, then so be it. She is not the first person wrongly convicted of a crime, who had to start again. Most don't use the publicity to try and claw money from the public - especially those who know full well that they now are a commodity which will see them financially much better off than they could have ever imagined - minus the public donations.
  • EvieJEvieJ Posts: 5,959
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    And would that include you setting up a fund for money from the public, despite the certainty that your case is going to bring in more money from the media alone, than you would ever earn or rightfully claim from a court for wrongful imprisonment..??

    As you say, you'd be wanting millions in her shoes. You just fail spectacularly at reading between the lines. This young lady is a walking piggy bank, knows it and still has the front to put up a page for donations.

    If you don't get a read from that as to the person, then so be it. She is not the first person wrongly convicted of a crime, who had to start again. Most don't use the publicity to try and claw money from the public - especially those who know full well that they now are a commodity which will see them financially much better off than they could have ever imagined - minus the public donations.

    It was the same publicity which has destroyed her life and will ensure she is never forgotten, why shouldn't she turn that into a positive if she needs it. When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.

    Her "fundraising" is a small donation button, not international appeals. There is no bleeding hearts or pressure to hand over money.
  • Dr. ClawDr. Claw Posts: 7,375
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    And would that include you setting up a fund for money from the public, despite the certainty that your case is going to bring in more money from the media alone, than you would ever earn or rightfully claim from a court for wrongful imprisonment..??

    As you say, you'd be wanting millions in her shoes. You just fail spectacularly at reading between the lines. This young lady is a walking piggy bank, knows it and still has the front to put up a page for donations.

    If you don't get a read from that as to the person, then so be it. She is not the first person wrongly convicted of a crime, who had to start again. Most don't use the publicity to try and claw money from the public - especially those who know full well that they now are a commodity which will see them financially much better off than they could have ever imagined - minus the public donations.

    what are you talking about me "failing spectacularly" :D

    she is free to set this fund up for money just to make herself rich(and so what?) and people are free to donate if they chose to or not

    get over it, nobody is forcing you to donate
  • Seamus SweeneySeamus Sweeney Posts: 3,997
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    EvieJ wrote: »
    It was the same publicity which has destroyed her life and will ensure she is never forgotten, why shouldn't she turn that into a positive if she needs it. When life gives you lemons, make lemonade.

    Her "fundraising" is a small donation button, not international appeals. There is no bleeding hearts or pressure to hand over money.

    Good Grief.

    This is why those with no morals or care bar their own financial gain set up things like this.

    Will always be those either prepared to donate or advocate on their behalf.

    It's scary that people can view this as you do..well more depressing really - but this reality is what feeds those who are hungry for one thing above all else - money from anyone naieve enough to give it.

    BiB..Are there kingsize buttons for greedy people ?

    Not international ? It's on her blog - is that limited to certain nations then ?
  • annette kurtenannette kurten Posts: 39,543
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    Good Grief.

    This is why those with no morals or care bar their own financial gain set up things like this.

    Will always be those either prepared to donate or advocate on their behalf.

    It's scary that people can view this as you do..well more depressing really - but this reality is what feeds those who are hungry for one thing above all else - money from anyone naieve enough to give it.

    BiB..Are there kingsize buttons for greedy people ?

    Not international ? It's on her blog - is that limited to certain nations then ?

    you have a choice to donate, do you not?
  • Seamus SweeneySeamus Sweeney Posts: 3,997
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    Dr. Claw wrote: »
    what are you talking about me "failing spectacularly" :D

    she is free to set this fund up for money just to make herself rich(and so what?) and people are free to donate if they chose to or not

    get over it, nobody is forcing you to donate

    Kudos on missing the point entirely. You should take up failing to acknowledge the truth and initial point someone makes as a profession...I'd possibly even pay into your campaign fund to set this venture up.
  • Seamus SweeneySeamus Sweeney Posts: 3,997
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    you have a choice to donate, do you not?

    It's the mindset annette. I've stated this 3 times already..just the mindset involved.
  • cris182cris182 Posts: 9,595
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    No one has to donate, I could set up a page asking for money for a holiday, No one is forced into giving me money but if they want to then that is their choice
  • EvieJEvieJ Posts: 5,959
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    Kudos on missing the point entirely. You should take up failing to acknowledge the truth and initial point someone makes as a profession...I'd possibly even pay into your campaign fund to set this venture up.

    Are you missing the point that an innocent person has lost 7 years of her life and will continue to have people view her as a murderer. She now has to pay for her defense and plan for her own future.
  • CravenHavenCravenHaven Posts: 13,953
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    People who have some grudge against pretty american girls will find some way or other to get on her case- Zzzzz.
  • SwipeSwipe Posts: 6,381
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    Regardless of her costs, I bet she's miraculously got enough for an iphone6
  • annette kurtenannette kurten Posts: 39,543
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    It's the mindset annette. I've stated this 3 times already..just the mindset involved.

    people have sold themselves and their experiences since before jesus alleged christ started selling his ways.

    ideas

    clothes

    opinions

    food

    arts

    health

    water

    all these are sold and bought every day you can buy any, all or none of these, why is her legal bill different?

    in what way is it different from a shopkeeper making a profit?
  • bozzimacoobozzimacoo Posts: 1,135
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    making money off the back of a murdered victim?
  • SadeyedSadeyed Posts: 1,265
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    Dr. Claw wrote: »
    she was put in prison for 4 years for a crime she didnt commit. all your posts says is that people are different and everybody already knows that. some people fight for themselves while others just take it and move on. i'd be wanting millions if i was in her shoes

    Actually, 3 of those years were for "Perverting the Course of Justice", which she did commit.

    She falsely accused a totally innocent man of committing the murder.
  • Seamus SweeneySeamus Sweeney Posts: 3,997
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    EvieJ wrote: »
    Are you missing the point that an innocent person has lost 7 years of her life and will continue to have people view her as a murderer. She now has to pay for her defense and plan for her own future.

    LoL...No wonder people will donate their money.

    She has a future where money will not be an issue, and more fool anyone thinking otherwise. Anyone with an IQ exceeding their shoe size will be able to determine that this is someone out to make money from anyone..not just those who should pay.

    When I do get some spare money to donate, rest assured it will be to an organisation or cause which is selfless..not selfish. Alan Barnes pulled the plug on the fund-raising for what happened to him because he is a man not looking to bleed every last penny from those who sympathise with what happened to him.

    Someone I respect because his actions are indicative of those of someone who deserves to be respected.

    Knox spent 7 years inside for something she is now clear of, and will earn masses of money..yet - whether or not you choose to donate - still has that inherent greed to 'offer' people to give her money.

    That is what seperates them, and for me I see past the story - I look at the person vs their actions..therein you get an insight to the person and mindset.
  • bollywoodbollywood Posts: 67,769
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    No I don't think it's in bad taste at all. She is over 1 million in debt. Her parents took out second mortgages. Her grandmother took out a large loan for her. It's not unusual for funds to be set up for people by friends and supporters. She had to combat many things said in the media that may not have connection to the reality of the situation.

    Some persons may just have trouble accepting that she was found innocent of the crime, and seem to be looking for petty points to get her on.
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