A Suggestion For Programme Names In The Playlist
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It seems there are people who'd like the name of the programme to remain as entered in the scheduled timer list because an incorrect name gets recorded in the playlist if the previous program overruns.
However there are others like me who would still like to see what actually got recorded (in the playlist) to avoid being lulled into a false sense of security in situations where the programme was never broadcast and something else is sitting in the playlist with the title from the scheduled timer list.
My suggestion is to try to satisfy both sets of people by the following logic:
1. When the programme start time is reached, the entry from the scheduled timers list is placed in the playlist when the recording begins.
2. At the same time, the Humax knows the length of the desired recording from the scheduled timers list so it sets a timer for half the programme length.
3. When the timer interval in 2 expires the Humax then takes the transmitted name of the current programme being recorded and changes the name in the playlist to this name.
Admittedly I am making the assumption that the hardware can support this extra timer and that Humax could make the necessary software changes perhaps as part of their work on upping the timers to 50?
What do people think?
If the majority seem to be in favour I'll suggest it in an Email to Humax.
However there are others like me who would still like to see what actually got recorded (in the playlist) to avoid being lulled into a false sense of security in situations where the programme was never broadcast and something else is sitting in the playlist with the title from the scheduled timer list.
My suggestion is to try to satisfy both sets of people by the following logic:
1. When the programme start time is reached, the entry from the scheduled timers list is placed in the playlist when the recording begins.
2. At the same time, the Humax knows the length of the desired recording from the scheduled timers list so it sets a timer for half the programme length.
3. When the timer interval in 2 expires the Humax then takes the transmitted name of the current programme being recorded and changes the name in the playlist to this name.
Admittedly I am making the assumption that the hardware can support this extra timer and that Humax could make the necessary software changes perhaps as part of their work on upping the timers to 50?
What do people think?
If the majority seem to be in favour I'll suggest it in an Email to Humax.
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Should just take the name from the schedule.
1. Scheduled name, and
2. Recorded name (should be taken half way through as suggested).
My feeling is, Humax aren't that thick and can't think of the methods of solving it... They are either not too concerned about names or the whole problem needs a big re-write of the firmware (which they can't be bothered with)...
Don't see why they couldn't figure out how to solve it. It was always the case on the 8000t that the name in the EPG for the programme you reserved was used in the list of reservations and also in the list of recorded programmes with padding at either end making no difference to the name. So if it worked fine on the 8000t why dd they change it to not work on the 9200?
With the Beta 04 release, Humax thought they could just introduce the autopadding feature by adding the minutes to the start and end, without much thought to the wider issues of autopadding (e.g. overlapping of programmes, and even the programme naming problem). This caused a huge debate when the betatesters reported in this forum about what was in the release.
This is why I suggested the two names. If both titles (or title and subtitle) appears in the playlist then when the mis-match occurs you would immediately know what has happened...
Wouldn't most people set up two timers for films that are broken by the news?
If I set up a recording in the schedule I don''t want it called anything else as that is confusing. At least with the new s/w we're part the way there.
The EPG names are sometimes wrong in any event. When the C4 EPG was two hours out recently the 8000T labelled the recordings correctly from the schedule while the 9200T didn't. That's not really progress, is it?
To try and pick up the name from half way through a recording sounds pretty complex to achieve. Surely if one records a programme, that's what one looks for whe time comes to view it, not something else so I'd be very unhappy if anything other than the 8000T method is adopted.
This could have 3 options:
1. EPG Name at Start Of Programme - which will behave as the 9200T does today.
2. Timer List then EPG Name Mid Programme - like I originally suggested.
3. Timer list - so it unconditionally uses the name as scheduled.
As quite a few people on this forum seem to favour option 3 so far, this could be made the defauilt.
We are in danger of making this so complicated no one understands!
Keep it simple, what you select at the time of setting the event is the neme which appears in the recorded programe list, if need be, you can rename it later.
Anyway Humax will give us what they see fit!!
Woolfynorm
MY old Fusion, bless, managed this name business from day one. It does seem a little strange that a consumer electronics company has got this so wrong.
I still like my 9200 though.:)
I don't see what is complicated.
If Option 3 is a default then the people who want the name to remain as the scheduled timer name get what they want.
Those that don't want the above and want the real programme name in the list then have choice of 2 other options.
I'm sure if Humax just change the playlist to work like the 8000 so the name always comes from the scheduled list, the forum will start to receive complaints from others that want the real name in the list.
The configuration option aims to please everyone.
The only two issues with this that I can think of are:
1) It won't be able to warn you in advance of a conflict. The solution to that, possibly by a configuration option, would be to miss the beginning of the later programme (which has got to be preferrable to missing the last few minutes of the earlier programme). In an extreme case - such as when progs are shifted by half an hour due to, for example, a major news story, where you could miss an entire programme but I think that would happen anyway as you would not know in advance that the schedule would have changed.
2) If you wanted to record two or more consecutive programmes as a single recording (due to the 20 slot limit for example). In this case (as there would be no need for padding) if you altered the start and/or end time it would record the times you set; without padding, it would record the programme.
That would be a great idea but the EPG is unfortunately not updated in real time.
That's an excellent suggestion. Now you mention it I believe someone mentioned Humax may be working on a kind of "series link facility" where the recordings are driven by the programme name. I'm sure it was on one of these forums. It may have been the "wish list" one or may have been someone quoting an Email received by Humax.
If Humax can give us this facility as well that would be excellent.
A downside I can see with recording being driven by programme name is that if the programme name isn't broadcast until the programme starts, the start of the programme would be missed until the recorder can come out of standby and spin the disk up, whereas PDC seems to broadcast the name earlier to give VCRs a chance to get ready.
Does anyone know if Humax are working on a "series link" recording facility?