On line bullying
Tasi
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Now that there are plans to make it easier to get the names of bullies on things like D.S., Twitter and Facebook, I might rejoin Twitter.
Why should they hide behind user names?
Why should they hide behind user names?
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When our autistic, epileptic daughter died ( we had been her carers for over 30 years,) I mentioned it on my facebook and twitter page. The replies i got, were astounding...
Glad the cretins dead... One less moron... you should have been neutered.... That is just a selection
I hope this never happens to you about your children Caladri. Because, until it does you could never understand the hurt and physical pain it causes
were the pages public? or just viewable by your friends? if the former, then there's a lesson for you, keep grieving private. if the latter, get new friends. sorted.
^^ This. Online bullying of the "youre a fat ****" makes me laugh i just go apeshit back at them ranting and laughing at the same tme.. but this kind of thing abusing a parent who has lost a child IS online bullying i agree with the people doing it being prosecuted and i hope it never happens to anyone who is just shrugging their shoulder off. Its an abuse of your grief at a time when you are at your lowest and most pain ridden and it is 100% NOT acceptable.:mad:
WHY is it her/his issue? why is the issue not with the downright nasty sh1theads doing this? I despair i really do.:rolleyes:
Why do people announce their private business on these sites? What do people actually expect will happen?
i think some people need protecting from themselves. if they are naive enough to think that everybody in the world feels their pain and will be kind enough to say so on their public grief-page, then i don't think they should be allowed on the internet at all. grief is a private matter, for family and close friends.
you despair because you are unrealistic about how harsh people in the world who have no emotional connection to the page creator can be. if you want to save yourself some grief, spare the world your grief.
Let me ask you this, if someone in person tells a grieving relative that they are glad the person died, should they be prosecuted for offline bullying? If not, why make this offence particular to the internet?
If I say in real life that I am glad someone is dead I have committed no crime but if I write it on a facebook page, I have? How exactly does that work?
I remember a joke about this somewhere, about how things have changed over the last hundred years:
1912: “Dear diary, in you I confide my most secret thoughts...”
2012: Tell everybody everything.
this is what i think. i don't think that the various authorities and justice systems know yet quite how to deal with internet related offences, and haven't managed to settle down into proportionate responses to things that happen online.
In any case, how practical is it going to be to police the internet to eliminate all bullying? I don't think it's going to be possible, and therefore people who post on the internet should avoid posting personal information that will lay themselves open to being hurt by others. That seems like elementary common sense. In any case, does the world at large really need to know about our own personal tragedies?
Just because we EXPECT it to happen doesnt make it right and putting the onus on the person being abused isnt the way forward. The internet is supposed to be for everyone we shouldnt have to hide etc and yes I agree we probably SHOULD for our own sanity but it dosent make these peoples abuse any less abusive.
BIB As for the comment regarding rl dont be fking ridiculous we are talking about ONLINE bullying, dont bring real life into the argument it just makes you look desperate.
ps: I got into it with traditional muslim males last night on twitter i was abused during the afternoon for a pic i had up and then again last night for backing a muslim leaders agreement for gay marriage i dont consider either situation "bullying" i do however think trolling of dead peoples relatives is disgusting behaviour and should be punished, simples.
Some recent cases have been ridiculous. Didn't that lad get 5 months in jail for a tweet about Muamba? Ludicrous!
It is this kind of thing that makes me want to go out and say outrageous things, a bit like the "Knock off nigel" adverts actually made me start pirating films.:D
I say what I like on twitter and facebook and, as discussed on another thread, I know I will never get in trouble for it.
So you dont have the courage of your convictions irl, just mouth off on the net? cool bro.
Actually you can get in trouble for it now, thats the whole point which appears to have passed you by.:rolleyes:
It isn't desperate at all. It is a very fair and relevant comparison. If I say in real life that I am glad someone is dead then I have committed no crime but if I say it on facebook then it is. That is ridiculous and completely unenforceable anyway.