Football Commentators Thread (Part 16)

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  • JetsonJetson Posts: 13,318
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    SamuelW wrote: »
    Can I ask then: why does Tyldesley call David Luiz 'Daaavid' [the proper pronounciation] rather than Day-vid. But then refuses to call Ham-ez the proper way?

    Isnt that a bit hypcritical? Or why does he call Brazilian keeper Cesar 'Hoolio' rather than 'Julio' but then refuses to call Rodriguez by the proper pronounciation?
    Why do you write ITV as Itv? Pot, kettle, black. Hope your 'inactive' status is long.
  • BFGArmyBFGArmy Posts: 28,918
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    I've heard worse ideas and I'll give it a go. Anyway here'd be my line-up.

    Presenters:
    Mark Chapman
    Ed Chamberlin

    Pundits:
    Gary Neville
    Thierry Henry
    Jamie Carragher
    Patrick Vieira
    Clarence Seedorf or Martin O'Neill
    Lee Dixon

    Commentators:
    Martin Tyler
    Ian Darke
    Steve Wilson
    Guy Mowbray
    Joe Speight

    Co-Commentators:
    Alan Smith
    Danny Murphy
    Lee Dixon
    Ray Hudson
    David Pleat

    Some of those were certainly tougher to pick than others. Even though I'm not a huge fan of several of the main football presenters I could quite easily have included Jeff Stelling (but think he's better on Soccer Saturday than hosting a live match), Gabby Logan and also John Dykes (who does the worldwide Premier League presenting and I normally find pretty good whenever I see it).

    The punditry one was tough too as I could easily have included quite a few more - Klinsmann, Guillit and Leonardo in particular. The Ray Hudson inclusion wasn't 100% serious but hey he'd certainly be entertaining (and pretty much the anti-Lawro). Rather him than Clarke Carlisle at least.

    I do like Gray on commentary but normally him & Keys seem a package so I couldn't include him (plus he gets a bit fawning towards certain 'superstars' at points) and with Neville I prefer it with him just as a pundit rather than splitting his role (even though he'd probably be in my top 5 co-commentators now.

    Pretty even split in the end between BBC, ITV and Sky - despite me preferring Sky's coverage normally over the other two.
  • SteveMartinSteveMartin Posts: 1,990
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    Ambassador wrote: »
    apologies, after his Howay Tim comment I got mixed up with Mowbray being a former Newcastle commentator as opposed to fan

    And ex-Sunderland commentator :)
  • jimmyladjimmylad Posts: 729
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    Ambassador wrote: »
    Newcastle fan Mowbray struggling not to cheer for Krul!

    Newcastle fan? He was Metro Radios Sunderland commentator for years....
  • jimmyladjimmylad Posts: 729
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    delete
  • bwfcolbwfcol Posts: 13,690
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    Yesterdays first game peaked at 7.5m, the later game at 9.4m which was a whopping 63% share

    Given the semis involve 4 big teams and there's no clear winner in either, ratings should be strong
  • casinoman13casinoman13 Posts: 7,075
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    My line up for my ideal World Cup, not that easy when you think about it.

    Presenters. Jake Humphries and James Richardson

    Pundits Ray Wilkins, Graham Sounnes, Thierry Henry, Martin O'Neill,
    Rud Gullit and Steve Macnannaman.

    commentators
    Co Commentators Ian Darke and Andy Gray
    Martin Tyler and Gary Neville
    Steve Wilson and Danny Murphy
    Jim Proudfoot and Ray Parlour
    Kevin Keatings and Davie Provan

    Maybe a surprise having Humphries but he and Richardson together would be an ideal combination.
  • D4N1EL11D4N1EL11 Posts: 348
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    My ideal team
    Presenters: Richard Keys
    Ed Chamberlain

    Pundits: Graeme Souness, Thierry Henry, Ruud Gullit, Glenn Hoddle, Alan Hansen, Jamie Carragher

    Comms: 1. Martin Tyler and Andy Gray
    2. Steve Wilson and Jim Beglin
    3. Guy Mowbray and Danny Murphy
    4. Peter Drury and David Pleat
    5. John Murray and Kevin Kilbane
  • jlp95bwfcjlp95bwfc Posts: 18,343
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    Presenters:
    Gary Lineker
    Ed Chamberlain

    Pundits:
    Thierry Henry
    Rio Ferdinand
    Jamie Carragher
    Gianluca Vialli
    Clarence Seedorf
    Martin O'Neill

    Commentators:
    Martin Tyler
    Ian Darke
    Guy Mowbray
    Clive Tyldesley
    Jon Champion

    Co-Commentators:
    Danny Murphy
    Gary Neville
    Andy Gray
    Jim Beglin
    Davie Provan
  • bwfcolbwfcol Posts: 13,690
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    Presenters: Gary Lineker & Ed Chamberlain

    Pundits - Gary Neville, Thierry Henry, Clarence Seedorf, Jamie Carragher, Graeme Souness, Ray Wilkins

    Comms - Martin Tyler, Steve Wilson, Guy Mowbray, Bill Leslie, Dan O'Hagan

    Co-comms - Danny Murphy, Don Goodman, Kevin Kilbane, Robbie Savage, Chris Waddle

    I've got radio comms who I rate more than Mowbray & Leslie but as I don't know what they'd be like on TV, I haven't included them

    How about a nightmare line up?

    Presenters: Richard Keys & Ben Shepherd

    Pundits: Dwight Yorke, Jamie Redknapp, Alan Shearer, Ian Wright, Gordon Strachan, Roy Hodgson (zzzz)

    Comms - Pearce, Helm, Matterface, Jon Driscoll, Clive T

    Co-comms - Townsend, Lawro, Keown, Carlisle, Michael Owen
  • SteveMartinSteveMartin Posts: 1,990
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    Presenters
    Richard Keys
    Gary Lineker

    Pundits
    Greame Souness
    Ruud Gullit
    Glenn Hoddle
    Kevin Keegam
    Patrick Viera

    Commentators
    Martin Tyler
    Ian Darke
    Clive Tyldesley
    Jon Champion
    Guy Mowbray

    Co-Comms
    Andy Gray
    Jim Beglin
    Stewart Robson
    Steve McMannaman
    Davie Provan
  • pakokelso93pakokelso93 Posts: 11,029
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    In all those fantasy line up's where is forum favourite Ian Gwyn Hughes? :D
  • JBOJBO Posts: 6,148
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    Presenters
    Gary Lineker
    Jeff Stelling

    Pundits
    Graeme Souness
    Clarence Seedorf
    Alan Shearer
    Jamie Carragher
    Thierry Henry

    Commentators
    Martin Tyler
    Steve Wilson
    Guy Mowbray
    Ian Darke
    Rob Hawthorne

    Co-Comms
    Andy Gray
    Danny Murphy
    Kevin Kilbane
    Gary Neville
    Davie Provan
  • ReadingfanReadingfan Posts: 10,244
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    My nightmare line-up!

    Presenters: Ben Shephard, Jake Humphrey
    Pundits: Dwight Yorke, Chris Coleman, Jamie Redknapp, Fabio Cannavaro, Ian Wright
    Commentators: John Helm, Jon Driscoll, Sam Matterface, Gary Bloom
    Co-commentators: Mark Bright, David Platt, Andy Townsend, Mark Lawrenson, Terry Gibson
  • Steve WilliamsSteve Williams Posts: 11,873
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    Computer wrote: »
    Steve Wilson will be very unlucky if he doesn't get the semi, but perhaps it was already decided (for whatever reason) that Pearce would get the quarter ahead of him before the tournament started?

    I'm sure it was going to be the case that whoever was going home would get a live quarter final as their last game. It's an exact repeat of Euro 2012 where Mowbray and Pearce did the live quarter finals while Mowbray and Wilson did the semis. A bit different that time because the Beeb showed both live, but the same principle. Even if Wilson doesn't get the live game it's still a big thing to do a semi-final for highlights, it goes in the archives and of course you actually get to go to the game which is a big occasion.
    sigmundv wrote: »
    Really? I thought Guardian would have been one of the more BBC friendly papers. On the other hand, private media is always complaining about media financed by the licence fee.

    Oh, no, the Guardian are the bloody worst for slagging off the Beeb these days, Media Guardian is dreadful at it, you only had to look at the site this week where they ran article after article about Five Live being "anti-women" despite no real listener actually thinking that (the worst being a dreadfully patronising article which suggested the fact that women are co-presenting was no excuse because "they will automatically defer to the man", suggesting award-winning serious journalist Sarah Brett has given up her respected role in Northern Ireland to move to Salford to giggle at Dan Walker's jokes). I mentioned on Twitter the other day what a stupid idea this was given Guardian readers are surely far more supportive of the Beeb than any other paper and someone suggested they were jealous of the Beeb, which is probably right.
    venno wrote: »
    All this offtube/logistics stuff reminds me that John Motson wrote in his autobiography that at Mexico '86 the BBC chartered a private plane to get him between venues when he had live games on consecutive days, such was the distance between stadia. Imagine if the BBC tried to pull something similar today! Taxpayer outrage.

    And of course Motty has a couple of times mentioned that in the seventies they had a private plane to get him and Jimmy Hill to matches and back, but had to stop using it after Hill mentioned it on air during the three day week and everyone complained at the Beeb wasting fuel.

    Really enjoyed Mowbray and Murphy last night, I do like Murphy, and it's helped his cause massively he's had some very good games. As for Matterface, I don't mind him but I think it's a bit like Matthew Lorenzo in 1994, he's been a bit over-promoted. If he was number three behind a bigger commentator, that would probably have been a better position for him.
  • jimmyladjimmylad Posts: 729
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    Presenters

    1. James Richardson
    2. Mark Chapman (almost picked Matt Smith)

    Pundits (sorry 6 is not enough)

    1. TIm Vickery
    2. Gabrielle Marcotti
    3. Marin O'Neill
    4. Leonardo
    5. Thierry Henry
    6. Clarence Seerdorf
    7. Lee Dixon
    8. Graeme Souness
    9. Gordon Strachan (mostly highlights shows)
    10. Ian Wright (England games and highlights shows only)
    11. Glenn Hoddle (England games and highlights shows only)

    Commentators
    1. Ian Darke
    2. Dave Farra
    4. Jon Champion
    e. Streve Wilson
    5. Barry Davies

    Co Commentators
    1. Stan Collymore (as long as he doesn't shout over the commentator at any point, three strikes and you're out)
    2. Ray Hudson
    3. Steve McManaman
    4. Gerry Armstrong
    5. Craig Burley
  • LanarkianLanarkian Posts: 7,557
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    Ambassador wrote: »
    apologies, after his Howay Tim comment I got mixed up with Mowbray being a former Newcastle commentator as opposed to fan
    I think you will find that Guy Mowbray was Metro FM's Sunderland commentator in the mid-90s with Mick Lowes being the Newcastle commentator.
  • ariusukariusuk Posts: 13,411
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    Oh, no, the Guardian are the bloody worst for slagging off the Beeb these days, Media Guardian is dreadful at it, you only had to look at the site this week where they ran article after article about Five Live being "anti-women" despite no real listener actually thinking that.

    You haven't seen the Five Live thread in the DS Radio forum then.
  • LanarkianLanarkian Posts: 7,557
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    James J wrote: »
    Why do you write ITV as Itv? Pot, kettle, black. Hope your 'inactive' status is long.
    I would suggest, James J, that you look at itv Sport's logo before you make inane comments.
  • bwfcolbwfcol Posts: 13,690
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    ariusuk wrote: »
    You haven't seen the Five Live thread in the DS Radio forum then.

    True, but the criticism towards 5Live on their is generally a small group of vicious keyboard cowards who tend to make it personal & don't accept that some people actually like certain presenters
  • Steve WilliamsSteve Williams Posts: 11,873
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    ariusuk wrote: »
    You haven't seen the Five Live thread in the DS Radio forum then.
    bwfcol wrote: »
    True, but the criticism towards 5Live on their is generally a small group of vicious keyboard cowards who tend to make it personal & don't accept that some people actually like certain presenters

    Indeed, the Five Live thread here is just people slagging off presenters, the anti-women stuff comes nowhere in their thinking. The Media Guardian stuff is just dreadful spinning for the sake of it.

    It's like when that MP Nick Herbert swore on The Daily Politics, the story on Media Guardian wasn't "MP swears on telly", it was "BBC forced to apologise". When Five Live renewed their FA Cup rights to have everything but non-exclusive, the story was "Five Live loses FA Cup monopoly". Spin, spin, spin.
  • clever3000clever3000 Posts: 5,080
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    Murphy announced in the commentary last night that he was going home, therefore it basically means that Larwenson is on the Final...
  • jlp95bwfcjlp95bwfc Posts: 18,343
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    clever3000 wrote: »
    Murphy announced in the commentary last night that he was going home, therefore it basically means that Larwenson is on the Final...

    ITV it is.
  • casinoman13casinoman13 Posts: 7,075
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    clever3000 wrote: »
    Murphy announced in the commentary last night that he was going home, therefore it basically means that Larwenson is on the Final...

    Oh dear, that is not good at all, so a potential Brazil Argentina final, perhaps what the World of football want, you could have Mark Lawrenson failing to get excited, moaning about officials and bringing the commentary of Guy Mowbery down, great BBC just great.
  • loyalsinceloyalsince Posts: 6,059
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    Interesting that mowbray made most peoples top 5. I like and probably prefer wilson, but mowbray may be most people's almost compromise no1. I.e. Most give him 8/10
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