Can I ask then: why does Tyldesley call David Luiz 'Daaavid' [the proper pronounciation] rather than Day-vid. But then refuses to call Ham-ez the proper way?
Isnt that a bit hypcritical? Or why does he call Brazilian keeper Cesar 'Hoolio' rather than 'Julio' but then refuses to call Rodriguez by the proper pronounciation?
Why do you write ITV as Itv? Pot, kettle, black. Hope your 'inactive' status is long.
I've heard worse ideas and I'll give it a go. Anyway here'd be my line-up.
Presenters:
Mark Chapman
Ed Chamberlin
Pundits:
Gary Neville
Thierry Henry
Jamie Carragher
Patrick Vieira
Clarence Seedorf or Martin O'Neill
Lee Dixon
Commentators:
Martin Tyler
Ian Darke
Steve Wilson
Guy Mowbray
Joe Speight
Co-Commentators:
Alan Smith
Danny Murphy
Lee Dixon
Ray Hudson
David Pleat
Some of those were certainly tougher to pick than others. Even though I'm not a huge fan of several of the main football presenters I could quite easily have included Jeff Stelling (but think he's better on Soccer Saturday than hosting a live match), Gabby Logan and also John Dykes (who does the worldwide Premier League presenting and I normally find pretty good whenever I see it).
The punditry one was tough too as I could easily have included quite a few more - Klinsmann, Guillit and Leonardo in particular. The Ray Hudson inclusion wasn't 100% serious but hey he'd certainly be entertaining (and pretty much the anti-Lawro). Rather him than Clarke Carlisle at least.
I do like Gray on commentary but normally him & Keys seem a package so I couldn't include him (plus he gets a bit fawning towards certain 'superstars' at points) and with Neville I prefer it with him just as a pundit rather than splitting his role (even though he'd probably be in my top 5 co-commentators now.
Pretty even split in the end between BBC, ITV and Sky - despite me preferring Sky's coverage normally over the other two.
My line up for my ideal World Cup, not that easy when you think about it.
Presenters. Jake Humphries and James Richardson
Pundits Ray Wilkins, Graham Sounnes, Thierry Henry, Martin O'Neill,
Rud Gullit and Steve Macnannaman.
commentators
Co Commentators Ian Darke and Andy Gray
Martin Tyler and Gary Neville
Steve Wilson and Danny Murphy
Jim Proudfoot and Ray Parlour
Kevin Keatings and Davie Provan
Maybe a surprise having Humphries but he and Richardson together would be an ideal combination.
Comms: 1. Martin Tyler and Andy Gray
2. Steve Wilson and Jim Beglin
3. Guy Mowbray and Danny Murphy
4. Peter Drury and David Pleat
5. John Murray and Kevin Kilbane
Presenters: Ben Shephard, Jake Humphrey
Pundits: Dwight Yorke, Chris Coleman, Jamie Redknapp, Fabio Cannavaro, Ian Wright
Commentators: John Helm, Jon Driscoll, Sam Matterface, Gary Bloom
Co-commentators: Mark Bright, David Platt, Andy Townsend, Mark Lawrenson, Terry Gibson
Steve Wilson will be very unlucky if he doesn't get the semi, but perhaps it was already decided (for whatever reason) that Pearce would get the quarter ahead of him before the tournament started?
I'm sure it was going to be the case that whoever was going home would get a live quarter final as their last game. It's an exact repeat of Euro 2012 where Mowbray and Pearce did the live quarter finals while Mowbray and Wilson did the semis. A bit different that time because the Beeb showed both live, but the same principle. Even if Wilson doesn't get the live game it's still a big thing to do a semi-final for highlights, it goes in the archives and of course you actually get to go to the game which is a big occasion.
Really? I thought Guardian would have been one of the more BBC friendly papers. On the other hand, private media is always complaining about media financed by the licence fee.
Oh, no, the Guardian are the bloody worst for slagging off the Beeb these days, Media Guardian is dreadful at it, you only had to look at the site this week where they ran article after article about Five Live being "anti-women" despite no real listener actually thinking that (the worst being a dreadfully patronising article which suggested the fact that women are co-presenting was no excuse because "they will automatically defer to the man", suggesting award-winning serious journalist Sarah Brett has given up her respected role in Northern Ireland to move to Salford to giggle at Dan Walker's jokes). I mentioned on Twitter the other day what a stupid idea this was given Guardian readers are surely far more supportive of the Beeb than any other paper and someone suggested they were jealous of the Beeb, which is probably right.
All this offtube/logistics stuff reminds me that John Motson wrote in his autobiography that at Mexico '86 the BBC chartered a private plane to get him between venues when he had live games on consecutive days, such was the distance between stadia. Imagine if the BBC tried to pull something similar today! Taxpayer outrage.
And of course Motty has a couple of times mentioned that in the seventies they had a private plane to get him and Jimmy Hill to matches and back, but had to stop using it after Hill mentioned it on air during the three day week and everyone complained at the Beeb wasting fuel.
Really enjoyed Mowbray and Murphy last night, I do like Murphy, and it's helped his cause massively he's had some very good games. As for Matterface, I don't mind him but I think it's a bit like Matthew Lorenzo in 1994, he's been a bit over-promoted. If he was number three behind a bigger commentator, that would probably have been a better position for him.
1. James Richardson
2. Mark Chapman (almost picked Matt Smith)
Pundits (sorry 6 is not enough)
1. TIm Vickery
2. Gabrielle Marcotti
3. Marin O'Neill
4. Leonardo
5. Thierry Henry
6. Clarence Seerdorf
7. Lee Dixon
8. Graeme Souness
9. Gordon Strachan (mostly highlights shows)
10. Ian Wright (England games and highlights shows only)
11. Glenn Hoddle (England games and highlights shows only)
Commentators
1. Ian Darke
2. Dave Farra
4. Jon Champion
e. Streve Wilson
5. Barry Davies
Co Commentators
1. Stan Collymore (as long as he doesn't shout over the commentator at any point, three strikes and you're out)
2. Ray Hudson
3. Steve McManaman
4. Gerry Armstrong
5. Craig Burley
Oh, no, the Guardian are the bloody worst for slagging off the Beeb these days, Media Guardian is dreadful at it, you only had to look at the site this week where they ran article after article about Five Live being "anti-women" despite no real listener actually thinking that.
You haven't seen the Five Live thread in the DS Radio forum then.
You haven't seen the Five Live thread in the DS Radio forum then.
True, but the criticism towards 5Live on their is generally a small group of vicious keyboard cowards who tend to make it personal & don't accept that some people actually like certain presenters
True, but the criticism towards 5Live on their is generally a small group of vicious keyboard cowards who tend to make it personal & don't accept that some people actually like certain presenters
Indeed, the Five Live thread here is just people slagging off presenters, the anti-women stuff comes nowhere in their thinking. The Media Guardian stuff is just dreadful spinning for the sake of it.
It's like when that MP Nick Herbert swore on The Daily Politics, the story on Media Guardian wasn't "MP swears on telly", it was "BBC forced to apologise". When Five Live renewed their FA Cup rights to have everything but non-exclusive, the story was "Five Live loses FA Cup monopoly". Spin, spin, spin.
Murphy announced in the commentary last night that he was going home, therefore it basically means that Larwenson is on the Final...
Oh dear, that is not good at all, so a potential Brazil Argentina final, perhaps what the World of football want, you could have Mark Lawrenson failing to get excited, moaning about officials and bringing the commentary of Guy Mowbery down, great BBC just great.
Interesting that mowbray made most peoples top 5. I like and probably prefer wilson, but mowbray may be most people's almost compromise no1. I.e. Most give him 8/10
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Presenters:
Mark Chapman
Ed Chamberlin
Pundits:
Gary Neville
Thierry Henry
Jamie Carragher
Patrick Vieira
Clarence Seedorf or Martin O'Neill
Lee Dixon
Commentators:
Martin Tyler
Ian Darke
Steve Wilson
Guy Mowbray
Joe Speight
Co-Commentators:
Alan Smith
Danny Murphy
Lee Dixon
Ray Hudson
David Pleat
Some of those were certainly tougher to pick than others. Even though I'm not a huge fan of several of the main football presenters I could quite easily have included Jeff Stelling (but think he's better on Soccer Saturday than hosting a live match), Gabby Logan and also John Dykes (who does the worldwide Premier League presenting and I normally find pretty good whenever I see it).
The punditry one was tough too as I could easily have included quite a few more - Klinsmann, Guillit and Leonardo in particular. The Ray Hudson inclusion wasn't 100% serious but hey he'd certainly be entertaining (and pretty much the anti-Lawro). Rather him than Clarke Carlisle at least.
I do like Gray on commentary but normally him & Keys seem a package so I couldn't include him (plus he gets a bit fawning towards certain 'superstars' at points) and with Neville I prefer it with him just as a pundit rather than splitting his role (even though he'd probably be in my top 5 co-commentators now.
Pretty even split in the end between BBC, ITV and Sky - despite me preferring Sky's coverage normally over the other two.
And ex-Sunderland commentator
Newcastle fan? He was Metro Radios Sunderland commentator for years....
Given the semis involve 4 big teams and there's no clear winner in either, ratings should be strong
Presenters. Jake Humphries and James Richardson
Pundits Ray Wilkins, Graham Sounnes, Thierry Henry, Martin O'Neill,
Rud Gullit and Steve Macnannaman.
commentators
Co Commentators Ian Darke and Andy Gray
Martin Tyler and Gary Neville
Steve Wilson and Danny Murphy
Jim Proudfoot and Ray Parlour
Kevin Keatings and Davie Provan
Maybe a surprise having Humphries but he and Richardson together would be an ideal combination.
Presenters: Richard Keys
Ed Chamberlain
Pundits: Graeme Souness, Thierry Henry, Ruud Gullit, Glenn Hoddle, Alan Hansen, Jamie Carragher
Comms: 1. Martin Tyler and Andy Gray
2. Steve Wilson and Jim Beglin
3. Guy Mowbray and Danny Murphy
4. Peter Drury and David Pleat
5. John Murray and Kevin Kilbane
Gary Lineker
Ed Chamberlain
Pundits:
Thierry Henry
Rio Ferdinand
Jamie Carragher
Gianluca Vialli
Clarence Seedorf
Martin O'Neill
Commentators:
Martin Tyler
Ian Darke
Guy Mowbray
Clive Tyldesley
Jon Champion
Co-Commentators:
Danny Murphy
Gary Neville
Andy Gray
Jim Beglin
Davie Provan
Pundits - Gary Neville, Thierry Henry, Clarence Seedorf, Jamie Carragher, Graeme Souness, Ray Wilkins
Comms - Martin Tyler, Steve Wilson, Guy Mowbray, Bill Leslie, Dan O'Hagan
Co-comms - Danny Murphy, Don Goodman, Kevin Kilbane, Robbie Savage, Chris Waddle
I've got radio comms who I rate more than Mowbray & Leslie but as I don't know what they'd be like on TV, I haven't included them
How about a nightmare line up?
Presenters: Richard Keys & Ben Shepherd
Pundits: Dwight Yorke, Jamie Redknapp, Alan Shearer, Ian Wright, Gordon Strachan, Roy Hodgson (zzzz)
Comms - Pearce, Helm, Matterface, Jon Driscoll, Clive T
Co-comms - Townsend, Lawro, Keown, Carlisle, Michael Owen
Richard Keys
Gary Lineker
Pundits
Greame Souness
Ruud Gullit
Glenn Hoddle
Kevin Keegam
Patrick Viera
Commentators
Martin Tyler
Ian Darke
Clive Tyldesley
Jon Champion
Guy Mowbray
Co-Comms
Andy Gray
Jim Beglin
Stewart Robson
Steve McMannaman
Davie Provan
Gary Lineker
Jeff Stelling
Pundits
Graeme Souness
Clarence Seedorf
Alan Shearer
Jamie Carragher
Thierry Henry
Commentators
Martin Tyler
Steve Wilson
Guy Mowbray
Ian Darke
Rob Hawthorne
Co-Comms
Andy Gray
Danny Murphy
Kevin Kilbane
Gary Neville
Davie Provan
Presenters: Ben Shephard, Jake Humphrey
Pundits: Dwight Yorke, Chris Coleman, Jamie Redknapp, Fabio Cannavaro, Ian Wright
Commentators: John Helm, Jon Driscoll, Sam Matterface, Gary Bloom
Co-commentators: Mark Bright, David Platt, Andy Townsend, Mark Lawrenson, Terry Gibson
I'm sure it was going to be the case that whoever was going home would get a live quarter final as their last game. It's an exact repeat of Euro 2012 where Mowbray and Pearce did the live quarter finals while Mowbray and Wilson did the semis. A bit different that time because the Beeb showed both live, but the same principle. Even if Wilson doesn't get the live game it's still a big thing to do a semi-final for highlights, it goes in the archives and of course you actually get to go to the game which is a big occasion.
Oh, no, the Guardian are the bloody worst for slagging off the Beeb these days, Media Guardian is dreadful at it, you only had to look at the site this week where they ran article after article about Five Live being "anti-women" despite no real listener actually thinking that (the worst being a dreadfully patronising article which suggested the fact that women are co-presenting was no excuse because "they will automatically defer to the man", suggesting award-winning serious journalist Sarah Brett has given up her respected role in Northern Ireland to move to Salford to giggle at Dan Walker's jokes). I mentioned on Twitter the other day what a stupid idea this was given Guardian readers are surely far more supportive of the Beeb than any other paper and someone suggested they were jealous of the Beeb, which is probably right.
And of course Motty has a couple of times mentioned that in the seventies they had a private plane to get him and Jimmy Hill to matches and back, but had to stop using it after Hill mentioned it on air during the three day week and everyone complained at the Beeb wasting fuel.
Really enjoyed Mowbray and Murphy last night, I do like Murphy, and it's helped his cause massively he's had some very good games. As for Matterface, I don't mind him but I think it's a bit like Matthew Lorenzo in 1994, he's been a bit over-promoted. If he was number three behind a bigger commentator, that would probably have been a better position for him.
1. James Richardson
2. Mark Chapman (almost picked Matt Smith)
Pundits (sorry 6 is not enough)
1. TIm Vickery
2. Gabrielle Marcotti
3. Marin O'Neill
4. Leonardo
5. Thierry Henry
6. Clarence Seerdorf
7. Lee Dixon
8. Graeme Souness
9. Gordon Strachan (mostly highlights shows)
10. Ian Wright (England games and highlights shows only)
11. Glenn Hoddle (England games and highlights shows only)
Commentators
1. Ian Darke
2. Dave Farra
4. Jon Champion
e. Streve Wilson
5. Barry Davies
Co Commentators
1. Stan Collymore (as long as he doesn't shout over the commentator at any point, three strikes and you're out)
2. Ray Hudson
3. Steve McManaman
4. Gerry Armstrong
5. Craig Burley
You haven't seen the Five Live thread in the DS Radio forum then.
True, but the criticism towards 5Live on their is generally a small group of vicious keyboard cowards who tend to make it personal & don't accept that some people actually like certain presenters
Indeed, the Five Live thread here is just people slagging off presenters, the anti-women stuff comes nowhere in their thinking. The Media Guardian stuff is just dreadful spinning for the sake of it.
It's like when that MP Nick Herbert swore on The Daily Politics, the story on Media Guardian wasn't "MP swears on telly", it was "BBC forced to apologise". When Five Live renewed their FA Cup rights to have everything but non-exclusive, the story was "Five Live loses FA Cup monopoly". Spin, spin, spin.
ITV it is.
Oh dear, that is not good at all, so a potential Brazil Argentina final, perhaps what the World of football want, you could have Mark Lawrenson failing to get excited, moaning about officials and bringing the commentary of Guy Mowbery down, great BBC just great.