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    noise747noise747 Posts: 30,862
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    call100 wrote: »
    What is the make and model of that car?

    Mitsubishi ASX, i had to text her to find out, I knew it was a Mitsubishi. she had a Laguna before, which while it had a fair bit of tech for it age, had nothing like this new car. i liked the Laguna, it was a comfy car and would go like a bat out of hell. but sadly it had come to the end of it's life and was costing more to keep on the road that it was worth. it been around the clock almost three times.

    This Mitsubishi is ok, but as a passenger I am not so fond on it.
    You, don't say!?:o

    I do say :)
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    noise747noise747 Posts: 30,862
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    zx50 wrote: »
    Whoever made that should have made sure that nothing like that would happen. The makers of it will probably fix the issue not long in the future.

    They already have if you read the article, but it still shows how things can be hacked.
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    call100call100 Posts: 7,278
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    Faust wrote: »
    You mean something like THIS?

    This is exactly why I won't be bothering with such household products.

    I think the fact that they fixed the vulnerability is important. There are always 'risks' to new technology but those 'risks' are always blown out of all proportion by all sections of the media. This results in people believing they are under constant attack from hackers, sitting outside their houses, with the sole intent of stealing everything they have. Of course this is not the case in reality.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,273
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    noise747 wrote: »
    They already have if you read the article, but it still shows how things can be hacked.

    I didn't bother reading it but just read the headline.
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    noise747noise747 Posts: 30,862
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    call100 wrote: »
    I think the fact that they fixed the vulnerability is important. There are always 'risks' to new technology but those 'risks' are always blown out of all proportion by all sections of the media. This results in people believing they are under constant attack from hackers, sitting outside their houses, with the sole intent of stealing everything they have. Of course this is not the case in reality.

    While hackers getting into LEd lights and controlling them may not sound like it would be a problem, if those lights was controlling something like traffic and someone posted a stupid message, it may cause someone to get killed.

    I know that the lights in question are for the home and not for controlling traffic, but the same sort of thing could happen.

    Look at smart meters and if they are hacked. Why would someone want to hack a smart meter? Because they can, and if they switch your power off you could end up with a freezer of wasted food or worse, someone could be using some medical equipment when the power goes.

    We have all this lovely new technology which we are told is what we need and yet people just don't look at what problems it can cause.

    I wish now that I never had a mobile phone. Expected to be reachable at any time, anywhere is a pain in the neck.
    if I knew in 1981 how much I would have spent on computers over the last 30 years I think I would not have bothered with computers either :)

    Thankfully my spending on computers have is pretty small these days.

    zx50 wrote: »
    I didn't bother reading it but just read the headline.

    That is the problem, maybe you should
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,273
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    noise747 wrote: »
    That is the problem, maybe you should

    And maybe you shouldn't be so against FTTC.
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    noise747noise747 Posts: 30,862
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    zx50 wrote: »
    And maybe you shouldn't be so against FTTC.

    I can't see how that can be relevant to you not reading the article before commenting on it.

    You are wrong anyway, I am not against FTTC. Why would I be against it? it is the best thing to happen to the way people can connect since ADSL.

    I still remember the day I was connected to ADSL, 512Kb/s, It was amazing compared to what I had before. sure speed have gone up and up and some people been lucky that they could get decent speed. ADSLmax was a waste of time for me, it caused more problems than it was worth, which is why I went back to fixed speed. of 1Mb/s.

    FTTC have been a godsend for some people, it have given them speeds that they was not able to get anywhere near without it. so why would I be against it?
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,273
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    noise747 wrote: »
    I can't see how that can be relevant to you not reading the article before commenting on it.

    You are wrong anyway, I am not against FTTC. Why would I be against it? it is the best thing to happen to the way people can connect since ADSL.

    I still remember the day I was connected to ADSL, 512Kb/s, It was amazing compared to what I had before. sure speed have gone up and up and some people been lucky that they could get decent speed. ADSLmax was a waste of time for me, it caused more problems than it was worth, which is why I went back to fixed speed. of 1Mb/s.

    FTTC have been a godsend for some people, it have given them speeds that they was not able to get anywhere near without it. so why would I be against it?

    You made a 'clever' comment about me needing to do something, so I returned some different 'advice'.
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    starry_runestarry_rune Posts: 9,006
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    I am not disappointed with technology, but I am disappointed with the way that current technology is not customisable and the way they deal with issues.

    Spotify. Having access to almost every song ever recorded in a device the size of your hand is brilliant. But not so brilliant if you have lots of playlists and can't organise them into folders or customise the order they are in.

    Sky - The +1 channels should be listed next to the channel itself. Having to scroll through every channel just to see the one you want doesn't have a +1 is infuriating. Be nice if you could re order the epg to suit you aswell.

    netflix / lovefilm / film+ / sky / virgin etc etc etc. too many. There does need to be a single on demand service so that it can host all content. you subscibe to netflix to see what you want on lovefilm etc.

    Getting photos from your mobile to your pc / laptop / chromebook / facebook. I had 200 photos to upload to facebook the other day. Had to upload them all onto facebook in blocks of 30. I've never had a phone that actually works when you connect the cable to the pc so thats a waste of time. tried to bluetooth them to my chromebook but again, it failed.

    Also with facebook too many updates that people don't like. top stories / recent posts etc.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,273
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    I am not disappointed with technology, but I am disappointed with the way that current technology is not customisable and the way they deal with issues.

    Spotify. Having access to almost every song ever recorded in a device the size of your hand is brilliant. But not so brilliant if you have lots of playlists and can't organise them into folders or customise the order they are in.

    Sky - The +1 channels should be listed next to the channel itself. Having to scroll through every channel just to see the one you want doesn't have a +1 is infuriating. Be nice if you could re order the epg to suit you aswell.

    netflix / lovefilm / film+ / sky / virgin etc etc etc. too many. There does need to be a single on demand service so that it can host all content. you subscibe to netflix to see what you want on lovefilm etc.

    Getting photos from your mobile to your pc / laptop / chromebook / facebook. I had 200 photos to upload to facebook the other day. Had to upload them all onto facebook in blocks of 30. I've never had a phone that actually works when you connect the cable to the pc so thats a waste of time. tried to bluetooth them to my chromebook but again, it failed.

    Also with facebook too many updates that people don't like. top stories / recent posts etc.

    The internet's just like the high street in the sense that different companies operate on it. More companies mean more jobs are created. I agree that the +1 channels should be listed next to the normal channel. Some companies tend to bring technology without probably sitting down at a table and discussing what improvements need to be made, and, probably without exhaustively testing it.
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    alanwarwicalanwarwic Posts: 28,396
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    I'm not disappointed but I am flabbergasted how low tech the majority of tech companies actually are.

    The slow progress of adding bluetooth to a watch to make it 'smart' being one case in point.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,273
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    Even though technology is advancing rapidly, as in, an improved item being brought out, I do think that technology hasn't advanced very much when it comes to items that really wow you. It would be great if companies started bringing out technology that looked as if it had been designed and built by aliens. I know that sounds funny, but I just mean that I wish technology that looked jaw dropping was brought out by companies. Samsung, Sony and Toshiba would be the companies that I would expect to be able to do this.
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    noise747noise747 Posts: 30,862
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    zx50 wrote: »
    You made a 'clever' comment about me needing to do something, so I returned some different 'advice'.


    Clever comment? you are mistaken, it was never meant to be a clever comment and I am pretty sure it was not.
    it was just a comment to read the article before commenting on it. your comment which you think was clever, was not clever as it was totally incorrect.
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    noise747noise747 Posts: 30,862
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    alanwarwic wrote: »
    I'm not disappointed but I am flabbergasted how low tech the majority of tech companies actually are.

    The slow progress of adding bluetooth to a watch to make it 'smart' being one case in point.

    Look at what they have put the smart tag on and at what they have done do nto really make them smart,.

    Smart TV, so it can access different content from the net, but to be honest they are still pretty dumb.
    Smart phone, not really, smart at all
    Smart meter, what is smart about them? they just take a reading and send it to a server.

    The smart tag is well over used.
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    FaustFaust Posts: 8,985
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    zx50 wrote: »
    Whoever made that should have made sure that nothing like that would happen. The makers of it will probably fix the issue not long in the future.

    But these aren't isolated incidents are they. There was a similar story regarding a Japanese bog the other week. Then there was the baby monitor incident last year. The list just goes on and on. Another real issue is that with these sort of products if they get hacked it's often nigh impossible to update the firmware.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,273
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    noise747 wrote: »
    Clever comment? you are mistaken, it was never meant to be a clever comment and I am pretty sure it was not.
    it was just a comment to read the article before commenting on it. your comment which you think was clever, was not clever as it was totally incorrect.

    I don't think so.
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    FaustFaust Posts: 8,985
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    It would be great if companies started bringing out technology that looked as if it had been designed and built by aliens.

    When I go into town and see the way a lot of people dress these days plus their shapes I think the aliens are already here and have been for some time. :o
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,273
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    Faust wrote: »
    But these aren't isolated incidents are they. There was a similar story regarding a Japanese bog the other week. Then there was the baby monitor incident last year. The list just goes on and on. Another real issue is that with these sort of products if they get hacked it's often nigh impossible to update the firmware.

    I suppose the hacker could create code that would refuse any update.
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    call100call100 Posts: 7,278
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    Faust wrote: »
    But these aren't isolated incidents are they. There was a similar story regarding a Japanese bog the other week. Then there was the baby monitor incident last year. The list just goes on and on. Another real issue is that with these sort of products if they get hacked it's often nigh impossible to update the firmware.

    You quote two incidents in the whole world a year or so apart and then say 'The list just goes on and on'. Not really making your point, is it?
    Why would someone come to your house and hack a fridge or a light bulb? The Daily Mail, et al, have a lot to answer for...;-)
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    d'@ved'@ve Posts: 45,531
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    zx50 wrote: »
    The internet's just like the high street in the sense that different companies operate on it. More companies mean more jobs are created. I agree that the +1 channels should be listed next to the normal channel. Some companies tend to bring technology without probably sitting down at a table and discussing what improvements need to be made, and, probably without exhaustively testing it.

    Yep, and not only that. ALL channels run by the same company (ITV, ITV HD, ITV2, ITV3, ITV4, BBC1, BBC One HD, BBC 2 etc. etc.) should be either next to each other or preferably have a single EPG slot, expandable like Planner programmes that have several recorded episodes.

    101. BBC (all)
    102. ITV (all)
    103. Channel 4 (all)
    104. Channel 5 (all)
    105. Sky (all general entertainment)
    106. UK Gold (all general entertainment)

    ...and so on. Maybe Channel 4 and Channel 5 would then choose sensible 21st Century names like everyone else. Specialist channels like Sports or Kids could still go in their own sections:

    401. Sky Sports
    402 BT Sport

    etc.

    The way EPGs are currently done is SO 20th. Century and so naff it's unbelieveable.
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    noise747noise747 Posts: 30,862
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    zx50 wrote: »
    I don't think so.

    But you are, you typed "And maybe you shouldn't be so against FTTC". which is not true as I am not against FTTC.
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    noise747noise747 Posts: 30,862
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    Faust wrote: »
    But these aren't isolated incidents are they. There was a similar story regarding a Japanese bog the other week. Then there was the baby monitor incident last year. The list just goes on and on. Another real issue is that with these sort of products if they get hacked it's often nigh impossible to update the firmware.

    Isolated at the moment, but if we got more and more products connected to the net how isolated would the hacking be then?


    Hackers will hack because they can and they think it is clever, not because they want to steal anything.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,273
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    noise747 wrote: »
    But you are, you typed "And maybe you shouldn't be so against FTTC". which is not true as I am not against FTTC.

    Not according to what some of your posts say in the broadband forum. Anyway, I can't be bothered.
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    noise747noise747 Posts: 30,862
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    zx50 wrote: »
    Not according to what some of your posts say in the broadband forum. Anyway, I can't be bothered.

    I think you are reading my posts wrong, you can be bothered because you are wrong.
    Let me spell it out for you.

    I have nothing again the technology of FTTC, it supplies faster broadband to people who could not get it before

    I am against one big company, who is in this case BT taking control of it.
    I am also, while not against as such, but some people thinking that we everyone should update to FTTC as it is the thing we should do even if someone is happy with the service they are on.

    If i could fine a small provider that could offer me FTTC at a price I would pay then I would even think about changing over.

    FTTP would be nicer mind you.
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    zx50zx50 Posts: 91,273
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    I think technology needs to start being created from scratch instead of just being improved. I would like to see companies bring out completely new ideas instead of just the same old things with added features. I wouldn't mind earphones that could accurately create the sound of 5.1, that would be great. Of course, this would mean that tablets etc would need a high quality dolby decoder or whatever in the tablet/phone etc. I'd so love for this to happen.
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