Does Rhianna write her own songs?

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  • SuperAPJSuperAPJ Posts: 10,402
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    Zack06 wrote: »
    The "na na na" in S&M isn't even her voice....

    Interesting! I used to think that Diamonds' "Shine bright like a diamond, shine bright like a diamond..." was a sampled vocal. When clearly Rihanna herself sings it a few times towards the end, I was thinking "Stop pretending that was you all along!". It was only seeing her sing (or mime to a pre-recorded vocal track?!) the song on The X Factor that made me change my mind.
  • STEPHENFOX20STEPHENFOX20 Posts: 206
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    IF YOU DONT LIKE HER, DONT LISTEN TO HER...simple!!!! why do peolpe constantly MOAN about her, if you dont like her, dont listen to her, I dont like ceratin bands/singers etc and so I dont buy into them or listen to them...

    I think she (and her team) are amazing...she is by far the best POP star around and long may she continue!!!!

    I hope she releases another album next year and the year after....I always buy them and look forward to some of the absaloute TUNES she releases!!!!! GO ROBYN!!!!
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,100
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    IF YOU DONT LIKE HER, DONT LISTEN TO HER...simple!!!! why do peolpe constantly MOAN about her, if you dont like her, dont listen to her, I dont like ceratin bands/singers etc and so I dont buy into them or listen to them...

    I think she (and her team) are amazing...she is by far the best POP star around and long may she continue!!!!

    I hope she releases another album next year and the year after....I always buy them and look forward to some of the absaloute TUNES she releases!!!!! GO ROBYN!!!!

    Dude, calm down. No one was hating on her. Just pointing out that she doesn't write her music, and others were mentioned in here as well. The world isn't against rihanna so calm your tits.
  • SummerShudderSummerShudder Posts: 1,170
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    HAHA god she's rubbish. Would love to see her try and co-write a song... She might want to ask Britney Spears for help, afterall she did co-write the masterpiece known as "Dear Diary". Maybe they can combine and produce the next Stairway to Heaven lol.
  • gold2040gold2040 Posts: 3,049
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    He did also try to take credit writing for songs that he didn't write. Dolly Parton mentioned this. He wanted to sing 'I will always love you' but with a writing credit. Parton (quite rightly) refused and he didn't sing the song.
    In Dolly's words though
    It wasn't Elvis' fault, it was Colonel Parker

    Given his managers dealings back then I can believe that
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 883
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    HAHA god she's rubbish. Would love to see her try and co-write a song... She might want to ask Britney Spears for help, afterall she did co-write the masterpiece known as "Dear Diary". Maybe they can combine and produce the next Stairway to Heaven lol.

    Maybe they should do the same thing that Page & Plant- just steal from other artists and then sign songs as their own work :rolleyes: and make amazing hit songs (maybe no one will notice)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sdbg2is2zQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvLsutfI5M
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zThdTAWQFAQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5uMQDlKn8g

    From all rock bands you just chose the one which has the most dubious reputation in the songwriting/copyright territory.
  • crazymonkcrazymonk Posts: 1,566
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    It wouldn't matter even if she did, she's still very mediocre!
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,304
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    Mojo Pin wrote: »
    Maybe they should do the same thing that Page & Plant- just steal from other artists and then sign songs as their own work :rolleyes: and make amazing hit songs (maybe no one will notice)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sdbg2is2zQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyvLsutfI5M
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zThdTAWQFAQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5uMQDlKn8g

    From all rock bands you just chose the one which has the most dubious reputation in the songwriting/copyright territory.


    But the thing is... between Led Zeppelin's versions and the original blues artists they ripped off, which do you prefer? Blues is a very limited musical form to me and evidently it was back then. The fact they made some of those riffs better and arguably the greatest technical band of all time probably excuses them from this.

    If you were to remove Led Zeppelin from the industry... there is really a big gap in the musical landscape. Heavy metal probably wouldn't exist without them. I don't have such an issue with plagiarism if the artist themselves bring something totally new and make it sound better. Lennon was sued on countless occasions by Chuck Berry's camp.

    The only shame in it all is that the likes of Muddy Waters, Fats Domino, Howling Wolf, Little Richard and Chuck Berry in some respect didn't get the credit they deserved. Page and Plant have always talked up the Blues though.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 229
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    What is her appeal anyway. She doesn't write her songs, she's a very average singer, beautiful girl but by celeb standards not the best looking by a long shot,can't dance unless it's thrusting vag in your face repeatedly tries to act like a "bad girl" then gets punched up by her boyfriend then takes him back. Her popularity is a compete mystery to me.
  • JohnnyForgetJohnnyForget Posts: 24,061
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    But the thing is... between Led Zeppelin's versions and the original blues artists they ripped off, which do you prefer? Blues is a very limited musical form to me and evidently it was back then. The fact they made some of those riffs better and arguably the greatest technical band of all time probably excuses them from this.

    Nothing excuses plagiary.

    John Lennon once said that "if you had to give rock 'n' roll another name you'd call it Chuck Berry", and I think it appropriate to paraphrase that comment with "if you had to give plagiary another name you'd call it Led Zeppelin".

    If you were to remove Led Zeppelin from the industry... there is really a big gap in the musical landscape. Heavy metal probably wouldn't exist without them.

    Surely that would have been a good thing. ;)

    the likes of Muddy Waters, Fats Domino, Howling Wolf, Little Richard and Chuck Berry in some respect didn't get the credit they deserved.

    You can say that again.



    Well, I didn't expect to find myself viewing a thread about Rihanna :eek:, and I certainly didn't expect to find myself commenting on Blues and Rock in such a thread. :confused:
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 883
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    But the thing is... between Led Zeppelin's versions and the original blues artists they ripped off, which do you prefer? Blues is a very limited musical form to me and evidently it was back then. The fact they made some of those riffs better and arguably the greatest technical band of all time probably excuses them from this.

    If you were to remove Led Zeppelin from the industry... there is really a big gap in the musical landscape. Heavy metal probably wouldn't exist without them. I don't have such an issue with plagiarism if the artist themselves bring something totally new and make it sound better. Lennon was sued on countless occasions by Chuck Berry's camp.

    The only shame in it all is that the likes of Muddy Waters, Fats Domino, Howling Wolf, Little Richard and Chuck Berry in some respect didn't get the credit they deserved. Page and Plant have always talked up the Blues though.

    But it wasn't only old blues artists that they stole from. There were also their contemporaries like Bert Jansch "Black Waterside" - "Black Mountain Side", Jake Holmes "Dazed and Confused"!!!!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsvs-pAGDc, Jeff Beck "How many More Times" (the bridge part from Beck's Bolero), Keith Relf "Tangerine" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPh1r32TCMY, Moby Grape "Since I've Been Loving You" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tmgXG0bXXU
    , Steve Marriott's vocal delivery "Whole Lotta Love" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkQpZpFLpv4, and mentioned band Spirit in "Stairway to Heaven".
    Maybe LZ "covers" are more innovative and some of them I do like more than originals but nevertheless they are still "cover versions". I love LZ but I just can't ignore that almost half of their material is taken (without credits) from other musicians.
    Why so many people are insensitive about it? It seems like Led Zeppelin is a "golden calf" and it can't be said anything negative towards them even if their fault is obvious.

    To end this topic I'll just give you a quote from Keith Relf's sister:
    "My brother plucked that session man out of obscurity and gave him a job and that's how he repaid him?" Jane Relf mused. "My brother was not well-off at the end of his life and the royalties for that song could have helped out considerably."
  • LandisLandis Posts: 14,849
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    Rhianna writes in her dressing room before going on stage.
    Here is one she is working on:

    ♫ "Thanks for waiting 2 hours....Oh what a pain
    But you need to leave now and catch the last train
    If you came for the hits - your out of luck
    Sorry - but I don't give a F*ck" ♫
  • Timothy BryceTimothy Bryce Posts: 1,733
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    Britney is taking credit for "Everytime" anyway, fair play if she did its her best song.

    "... Like with “Everytime” I wrote the whole thing from scratch on the piano. Musically there was no track or anything. I was just at my house and I did the whole thing by myself. And then I went and I played it for [Guy Sigsworth] and I just basically told him exactly how I wanted the song to sound. And he was so amazing because there's a lot of producers you tell them things and they don't get it. And you're like oh, that's not the right way. He got it just right. He was amazing. And so that song specifically, you know, I did everything."[8]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everytime#Background_and_writing
  • Delboy219Delboy219 Posts: 3,193
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    Ryan11 wrote: »
    Who cares if she doesn't? I'm so sick of everyone here.

    I'm sick of Rihanna fans acting like she has talent. So it goes both ways, really.
  • iseloidiseloid Posts: 9,392
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    Benllech wrote: »
    She has an entire team that literally dictates everything she does, she is mainly the face of it all, oh and the auto-tuned voice.

    This more or less. She just tries to sing the songs. TRIES.
  • iseloidiseloid Posts: 9,392
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    Sky_Fire wrote: »
    What is her appeal anyway. She doesn't write her songs, she's a very average singer, beautiful girl but by celeb standards not the best looking by a long shot,can't dance unless it's thrusting vag in your face repeatedly tries to act like a "bad girl" then gets punched up by her boyfriend then takes him back. Her popularity is a compete mystery to me.

    Pretty ish light skinned girl, enough tan to appeal to those who want to look a bit darker, and those who are darker who want to look lighter. Decent enough songs for radio, and hit after hit. Ability is not required because radio and her team keep it moving. When one of those falters, she will fall. CB hitting her BOOSTED her popularity actually, she's sold about 35m records since that occasion happened. After GGGB it just cemented her in modern pop culture in a way.
  • ScrubberScrubber Posts: 4,106
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    No she doesn't. She wouldn't be able to churn out album after album, single after single.
  • rfonzorfonzo Posts: 11,771
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    I would have thought she would have written some of her some of her songs.
  • mialiciousmialicious Posts: 4,686
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    Check the credits on any of your favourite pop star's biggest hits..Ester Dean wrote a lot of Rihanna's hits (rudeboy, whats my name?, S&M as well as near her entire talk that talk album) she also wrote Superbass by Nicki Minaj and Firework by Katy Perry. there are videos on youtube of her demos of those songs.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_written_by_Ester_Dean
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