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She was "so far up Helen's arse" she got evicted

vikesukvikesuk Posts: 1,092
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Easy call this week

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    jeanettexjeanettex Posts: 1,359
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    vikesuk wrote: »
    Easy call this week

    Or do you disagree?

    Disagree :o:o>:(>:(
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 349
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    Good call to even up the sides.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 9,927
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    Jale's a bit big to get up Helen arse, even though it's had things up it and it's the second nicest arse in the house.
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    vikesukvikesuk Posts: 1,092
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    It was a quote from a housemate - one which I agreed with, Jale went from a near fave to voted out by the GBPublic. I was sorely disappointed the presenters didn't tell her that was why she was evicted.
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    vikesukvikesuk Posts: 1,092
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    YesNoMan wrote: »
    Jale's a bit big to get up Helen arse, even though it's had things up it and it's the second nicest arse in the house.

    That's a bit of an anal perspective on matters - ask Wayne

    At the interviews the Jale even said the kool kids were her kinda peeeps - dumb girl, they call you whale Jale
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 9,927
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    vikesuk wrote: »
    That's a bit of an anal perspective on matters
    I'm nothing if not analytical.
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    ultrosultros Posts: 8,504
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    Disagree.

    She got evicted because there's a guy who makes money from his BB website on twitter called BBXtra who gets dumbo's to spend a fortune voting out who he want's then he takes the credit :D
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    trevor tigertrevor tiger Posts: 37,996
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    vikesuk wrote: »
    It was a quote from a housemate - one which I agreed with, Jale went from a near fave to voted out by the GBPublic. I was sorely disappointed the presenters didn't tell her that was why she was evicted.

    I know it was sooooo annoying when they didn't say 'you made friends with Helen after she'd been horrible to you. Why?' And when they didn't say 'do you think that is why you were evicted?' Mm then again . . .:cool:
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    Jen_PageJen_Page Posts: 35
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    I know it was sooooo annoying when they didn't say 'you made friends with Helen after she'd been horrible to you. Why?' And when they didn't say 'do you think that is why you were evicted?' Mm then again . . .:cool:

    Why is that such a crime? The way I see it Jale has to live in that house 24/7 so she decided it was best to make her peace rather than have constant arguments and bitching in the house which would affect everyone. Doesn't mean she has to agree with Helen but she at least tried to see Helen from a different point of view in order to settle their differences. In my book it was a sensible and rather mature move. Others may say disagree and call it arse licking but that's my perspective.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 349
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    Jen_Page wrote: »
    Why is that such a crime? The way I see it Jale has to live in that house 24/7 so she decided it was best to make her peace rather than have constant arguments and bitching in the house which would affect everyone. Doesn't mean she has to agree with Helen but she at least tried to see Helen from a different point of view in order to settle their differences. In my book it was a sensible and rather mature move. Others may say disagree and call it arse licking but that's my perspective.

    Never change who you are for anyone.

    She went from Slugsworth to Sidekick by agreeing with everything Helen said.
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    Jen_PageJen_Page Posts: 35
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    Never change who you are for anyone.

    She went from Slugsworth to Sidekick by agreeing with everything Helen said.

    I don't recall her doing that at any point. She and Helen called a truce is the way I view it.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 661
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    Jale said after her eviction that Helen is exactly the kind of person she likes anyway.

    She would have been with Helen right from the beginning given the chance, except Helen wouldn't let her in until BB told her to quit with her hate campaign.

    That's what let Jale finally be where she wanted to be all along, with Helen.
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    Jen_PageJen_Page Posts: 35
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    craton wrote: »
    Jale said after her eviction that Helen is exactly the kind of person she likes anyway.

    She would have been with Helen right from the beginning given the chance, except Helen wouldn't let her in until BB told her to quit with her hate campaign.

    That's what let Jale finally be where she wanted to be all along, with Helen.

    Did she say that? I remember Jale saying that she could see some things about herself in Helen. I don't think that's quite the same thing.

    If she did say those words then I stand corrected.
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    vikesukvikesuk Posts: 1,092
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    craton wrote: »
    Jale said after her eviction that Helen is exactly the kind of person she likes anyway.

    She would have been with Helen right from the beginning given the chance, except Helen wouldn't let her in until BB told her to quit with her hate campaign.

    That's what let Jale finally be where she wanted to be all along, with Helen.

    I found that the saddest thing - Jale is maybe a hanger-on, hoping for acceptance in life
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    vikesukvikesuk Posts: 1,092
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    Jen_Page wrote: »
    Why is that such a crime? The way I see it Jale has to live in that house 24/7 so she decided it was best to make her peace rather than have constant arguments and bitching in the house which would affect everyone. Doesn't mean she has to agree with Helen but she at least tried to see Helen from a different point of view in order to settle their differences. In my book it was a sensible and rather mature move. Others may say disagree and call it arse licking but that's my perspective.

    Explain to me like I'm a 5 year old how Jale went from a fave to win the whole shebang to evicted over Ashleigh then dearest Jen
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    PitmanPitman Posts: 28,495
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    I can understand her wanting to be with Helen's lot if drinking, smoking and playing truth or dare is your bag, but once Helen made her feel shit for about two weeks, I would have thought the vast majority of people would say **** her and just settle down to brushing hair with Ashleigh, y'know apparently Reggie Kray was an Arsenal fan, but I wouldn't want to have chats about football with him, I'd rather play tiddlywinks :cool:
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    SuesSues Posts: 1,475
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    Nobody actually told Jale the real reason she was voted out - she was the chosen lamb to slaughter on the alter of Queen Ashleigh in order to keep her in.
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    vikesukvikesuk Posts: 1,092
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    Sues wrote: »
    Nobody actually told Jale the real reason she was voted out - she was the chosen lamb to slaughter on the alter of Queen Ashleigh in order to keep her in.

    I don't buy that monkey - sure, she got votes to keep Ashleigh in, but I don't believe all the votes were for that reason.

    You don't go from a top fave in the betting to voted out over your evil princess Sue .Even her sister kinda knew the writing was kiinda on the wall before voting closed. She lost her way in my head (the fact that she said that Helen et al was her way in the exit interview makes me glad she was punted)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 8,525
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    Jen_Page wrote: »
    Why is that such a crime? The way I see it Jale has to live in that house 24/7 so she decided it was best to make her peace rather than have constant arguments and bitching in the house which would affect everyone. Doesn't mean she has to agree with Helen but she at least tried to see Helen from a different point of view in order to settle their differences. In my book it was a sensible and rather mature move. Others may say disagree and call it arse licking but that's my perspective.

    She befriended the people that mocked her and not for a quiet life as some of her fan club on here suggested. She simply went toward 'her kind of people' which pretty much says it all.

    Then proceeded to be rude and nasty to the very people (Chris, Marlon and Chtistopher) that were kind and supportive to her.

    Their has been several clips shared on here and on BB FB page that showed how dismissive she was to Christopher and Marlon over the last couple of days that didn't make the HL show. Whereas Ashleigh kept getting a bad edit.

    So I personally am glad that not only did Jale get evicted but she proved that she aligned herself with the very people that bullied her as they were her ''kind of people' and not as a survival tactic as her fm fans claimed.
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    zeebevingzeebeving Posts: 125
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    Making friends with Helen is one thing, but she was becoming quite mean to others who had supported her during her darker days in there.
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    vikesukvikesuk Posts: 1,092
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    cazziekay wrote: »
    She befriended the people that mocked her and not for a quiet life as some of her fan club on here suggested. She simply went toward 'her kind of people' which pretty much says it all.

    Then proceeded to be rude and nasty to the very people (Chris, Marlon and Chtistopher) that were kind and supportive to her.

    Their has been several clips shared on here and on BB FB page that showed how dismissive she was to Christopher and Marlon over the last couple of days that didn't make the HL show. Whereas Ashleigh kept getting a bad edit.

    So I personally am glad that not only did Jale get evicted but she proved that she aligned herself with the very people that bullied her as they were her ''kind of people' and not as a survival tactic as her fm fans claimed.

    good post ck - you wrote how I feel about the matter
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    alienghostalienghost Posts: 1,492
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    Jale didn't ask for the "underdog" role, it was pretty much thrust upon her by Pauline. If she'd tried to play up to being an underdog all the way to the final maybe she'd still be there, but she'd rather have fun and get on with who she wants to get on with than sit bitching about the "cool kids" in the corner, which is fair enough. I think this "she was up Helen's arse" thing people keep saying is overblown as well. She didn't spend that much time with Helen, and she nominated Ash most weeks. Jale didn't know everything Helen said about her, but Helen had apologised and was alright with her from then on, so maybe she just didn't see the point in holding a grudge. I don't think she did anything wrong really, but the public need a victim to support and need a baddie to hate, and she wasn't playing along with that anymore.
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    cazziekay wrote: »
    She befriended the people that mocked her and not for a quiet life as some of her fan club on here suggested. She simply went toward 'her kind of people' which pretty much says it all.

    Then proceeded to be rude and nasty to the very people (Chris, Marlon and Chtistopher) that were kind and supportive to her.

    :)Yep, that's exactly why Jale was voted out... shame really, for all that, Jale could be fun and deserved to stay a lot longer than the gruesome coupling that is Kim/Steven... yuk.
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    B*witchedB*witched Posts: 5,647
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    vikesuk wrote: »
    Explain to me like I'm a 5 year old how Jale went from a fave to win the whole shebang to evicted over Ashleigh then dearest Jen

    In a word ...dearest vikesuk...Helen. Jale was sacrificed because Helen's unpopular and Ashleigh fans knew keeping her in the house would piss Helen off. The aim was to get a reaction, see Helen explode and sit back to enjoy the fireworks. Probably hoping that Helen might be evicted for bad behaviour or at least have her pass taken away so she was up for eviction and could be voted out by the Helen detractors. Not that it was the only reason, I know Ashleigh does have a large fan base but Jale's eviction wasn't about her as much as it was aimed at targetting Helen. Cheers! :)
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    Firstly, let's not forget who Jale was up for eviction against. She was the least popular out of a strong group, minus Marlon...

    If Jale had just made her peace with Helen then, IMO, many viewers would have accepted that without it rebounding back on her. Jale would have lost the victim tag, but not gained the "arse-licker" one. The audience sees these things so bluntly.

    However, I think there were two more reasons: Jale made a few poor judgement choices, making her seem less wise than she did. Viewers like to note where the intelligence appears in the house. It suddenly appeared that Jale wasn't as smart as we thought: a bit like finding out Winston knows some Latin; confusing.

    Then Jale started telling other people how to behave. Her intentions were good, but it came down on the side of condescension. Viewers will only take that trait on rare occasions. You need amazing charisma to pull that off.
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