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Newspaper column: British people are committing suicide to escape poverty.
Florian
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British people are committing suicide to escape poverty. Is this what the State wants?
http://poultonblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/03/people-are-choosing-suicide-to-escape-poverty-is-this-the-states-final-solution.html
Any benefit bashers have any comments to make about vulnerable people committing suicide due to the state?
Also read the reader's comments at the very bottom of the article, it makes for alarming reading.
http://poultonblog.dailymail.co.uk/2012/03/people-are-choosing-suicide-to-escape-poverty-is-this-the-states-final-solution.html
Any benefit bashers have any comments to make about vulnerable people committing suicide due to the state?
Also read the reader's comments at the very bottom of the article, it makes for alarming reading.
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Not to state the obvious but do you think the "bashers" really care?
What hyperbole from a third rate hack. Badly written and researched.
People take their life because of depression ect not solely on the basis of so called poverty, I have been on the dole in dire straits and the thought never crossed my mind to end my life.
Even in work money is tight and I have loads of outstanding bills/no money but I'm not going to end my life because of my situation.
I'm not a benefit basher. But benefits are not provided to stop people from killing themselves.
I have heard DS frown on bring back to life old threads, is there a rule a out bringing up last years DM hyperbole.
This, really.
If enough people decided to off themselves because they didn't have a Mercedes or a big-screen TV, should we feel obligated to provide those things as well?
Sure, life can be shit and there's often no safety net but it's only ever up to each individual to decide when to throw in the towel.
I also thought stated in the terms and conditions a reply to a thread must be constructive.
Please could you provide a time frame of what news is acceptable to discuss or not discuss? The article is LESS than 12 months old and is STILL relevant.
Also I was not a member of Digital Spy last year.
If you are happy that vulnerable people are committing suicide because of their benefits are being attacked, that is fine. Lets hope you never require benefits.
Do you want the issue covered up because it means the public might have sympathy for people on benefits and people that attack the vulnerable may come across as uncaring and not compassionate?
Well just remember it was the Tories who allowed Qatata in back in the 90's and it's the same Tory Party now cutting benefits for vulnerable British people, along with forcing the disabled to go through the ATOS death machine, which is contributing to these deaths.
Is there actually an issue? I'm definitely against benefits being cut, but not convinced that people are committing suicide because of cuts.
Well I look forward to leaving this hellhole of a country and never returning! I'll live anywhere but here.
I get the distinct impression you won't be allowed to disagree unless you are part of the cover-up.
Yup its depressing.
It is probably the same people who do not understand that "conspiracy" is a legitimate (it is not only used by paranoid people) word and the police use it, "conspiracy to commit fraud etc".
Am I now going to be made out to be a tin foil hat wearing paranoid person who thinks EVERYTHING is a cover up?
Do me a favour.
The article isn't about you.
It is based on people who have taken their own life due to poverty and the comments on the article demonstrate just how many others are in a very bad place thanks to ATOS.
Bring up the issue if you want. I'm not trying to make anyone appear to be a tinfoil hat wearing paranoid person. But I stand by my post, someone didn't think there was an issue but you tried to twist that meaning.
My original point still stands - the purpose of benefits is not to keep people from killing themselves.
Is my internet broken?
I swear, I've read and re-read every post in this thread and I see no sign of anything that might be construed in this way.
However, fear of having disability benefits taken away is causing a lot of mentally ill people to get even sicker, combined with their having lost their cpn's and support workers due to cutbacks. A lot of vulnerable people out there are living very isolated lives and not getting the care they need. If they had physical ailments they would probably get homehelps. But because it's mental they often live in squalor and nobody knows or cares. If I could get a support worker to just come and see me once a month to sit down with me and go through my mail or perhaps chivvy me into doing some housework it would help me so much.
Post #14 infers that I am a stating there is a Government conspiracy because of the content of my post #8.
Read post #8 and then post #14.
To be honest, I couldn't really care less.
I'd bet those same people wouldn't give a crap about me if the positions were reversed, so I don't see why I should expend emotional energy fretting about their plight. Sure, it's regrettable they might feel the need to commit suicide, but if that's what they want to do, then let them.
Not my problem.
All that said, from what I've heard, ATOS are a piss poor outfit, and most likely not fit for purpose in assessing the medical condition of benefit claimants.
And then read post 18.
And I'm not joking about this opinion of mine that I'm entitled to, they flat out don't give a damn.
This country and the I'm all right jack attitude of many of its citizens is a disgrace.
I'm ashamed to be British.
You just better hope you are going to be fit for life and never have an accident then.
Another example of I'm all-right Jack.