The time to leave is long overdue now, we should leave immediately. A vote would be a good option but that vote is still a good three years away and, that's IF the conservative's get in again. If Labour get in then forget about it!
The time to leave is long overdue now, we should leave immediately. A vote would be a good option but that vote is still a good three years away and, that's IF the conservative's get in again. If Labour get in then forget about it!
As you say the vote would be 3 years away but would take a few years after that to even sort things out. But its not going happen anyway, Big buisness will not allow it, and they run countries not politicions
As you say the vote would be 3 years away but would take a few years after that to even sort things out. But its not going happen anyway, Big buisness will not allow it, and they run countries not politicions
Do british people believe that corporations and business will do whats best for the British people, whats best for the country, or what is best for corporations and business. they will do whats best for them, and will look at the best Long term economic plan for THEMESLVES, what is best for the uk or the uk workforce will not even be talked about as that is not thier concern. The only thing that matters is money profit for them and thier shareholders, anything that cost them money will be seen as a negitive for being uk based
Yes, we devolve decision making within the UK so that regions can make decisions tailored to the needs of that particular region. They don't apply the same thinking in running the country. It is all about the gravey train and politicians wanting careers on the international political stage.
We didn't vote for the EU
We voted for the Common Market, which is an entity different entity
And have willingly participated in what it has become. We are part of it, it's not forced on us. Some folk seem to think because they don't want to be in it, then we shouldn't be and are being forced by the EU. That is not the case at all.
It may even be more beneficial to us if we had decent representation in the EU rather than a bunch who can't be bothered to turn up, seek positions on committees or contribute to the decision making.
And have willingly participated in what it has become. We are part of it, it's not forced on us. Some folk seem to think because they don't want to be in it, then we shouldn't be and are being forced by the EU. That is not the case at all.
It may even be more beneficial to us if we had decent representation in the EU rather than a bunch who can't be bothered to turn up, seek positions on committees or contribute to the decision making.
To be absolutely crystal clear on this, the British people were NEVER asked if they wanted to join the Common Market. The Tory government, under Ted Heath, took us into it, in 1973. We were only given a referendum on whether to leave or stay by the subsequent Labour government in 1975 as the referendum issue was part of their 1973 election manifesto. The vast majority of people were sold the "Common Market" as an organisation to standardise regulations, making trading between member states easier. That`s why the electorate returned a vote to stay in, to make trading easier, not to be part of a federal superstate, pissed with power. You are correct in your view that we were not forced into it but we were conned into staying in !
To be absolutely crystal clear on this, the British people were NEVER asked if they wanted to join the Common Market. The Tory government, under Ted Heath, took us into it, in 1973. We were only given a referendum on whether to leave or stay by the subsequent Labour government in 1975 as the referendum issue was part of their 1973 election manifesto. The vast majority of people were sold the "Common Market" as an organisation to standardise regulations, making trading between member states easier. That`s why the electorate returned a vote to stay in, to make trading easier, not to be part of a federal superstate, pissed with power. You are correct in your view that we were not forced into it but we were conned into staying in !
I love people who seem to think the way to deal with problems in the uk is to leave the EU, and all will be rosy again. Trouble is it was not rosy in the uk before we joined. What do people really think they are going to gain by being out of the EU.
I love people who seem to think the way to deal with problems in the uk is to leave the EU, and all will be rosy again. Trouble is it was not rosy in the uk before we joined. What do people really think they are going to gain by being out of the EU.
I think the main advantage seen by many is the ability to control immigration. Whatever our views on the EU, it is hard to argue against that.
I think the main advantage seen by many is the ability to control immigration. Whatever our views on the EU, it is hard to argue against that.
Dont even think that argument is so straight forward. Well the politicions cannot make thier mind what people are coming over for. One day its they dont want work they only coming for benefits. Then its they are stealing british jobs. Yet the britsh public have the same rights as them to go and work live in any EU country.
I love people who seem to think the way to deal with problems in the uk is to leave the EU, and all will be rosy again. Trouble is it was not rosy in the uk before we joined. What do people really think they are going to gain by being out of the EU.
Well by that argument you could also suggest that after 4 decades of trying the experiment is not working so perhaps time to try something else? ;-)
I think the main advantage seen by many is the ability to control immigration. Whatever our views on the EU, it is hard to argue against that.
Surely one of the benefits of the EU has been the been the fact it's removed the UK's freedom to control its own immigration policy? If we had a mature, functioning democracy we could perhaps move towards allowing the British some say over immigration in the future but we're not at the point just now where we can be trusted on this issue. We're too insular a society at the moment and I trust the rest of the EU more on this issue than the people of Britain.
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Britain should have stayed in the frying pan.
As you say the vote would be 3 years away but would take a few years after that to even sort things out. But its not going happen anyway, Big buisness will not allow it, and they run countries not politicions
Would be good to have a referendum though.
You underestimate the British people.
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How very profound. It's going to happen though.
Do british people believe that corporations and business will do whats best for the British people, whats best for the country, or what is best for corporations and business. they will do whats best for them, and will look at the best Long term economic plan for THEMESLVES, what is best for the uk or the uk workforce will not even be talked about as that is not thier concern. The only thing that matters is money profit for them and thier shareholders, anything that cost them money will be seen as a negitive for being uk based
We voted for the Common Market, which is an entity different entity
And have willingly participated in what it has become. We are part of it, it's not forced on us. Some folk seem to think because they don't want to be in it, then we shouldn't be and are being forced by the EU. That is not the case at all.
It may even be more beneficial to us if we had decent representation in the EU rather than a bunch who can't be bothered to turn up, seek positions on committees or contribute to the decision making.
I love people who seem to think the way to deal with problems in the uk is to leave the EU, and all will be rosy again. Trouble is it was not rosy in the uk before we joined. What do people really think they are going to gain by being out of the EU.
I think the main advantage seen by many is the ability to control immigration. Whatever our views on the EU, it is hard to argue against that.
Well by that argument you could also suggest that after 4 decades of trying the experiment is not working so perhaps time to try something else? ;-)
Surely one of the benefits of the EU has been the been the fact it's removed the UK's freedom to control its own immigration policy? If we had a mature, functioning democracy we could perhaps move towards allowing the British some say over immigration in the future but we're not at the point just now where we can be trusted on this issue. We're too insular a society at the moment and I trust the rest of the EU more on this issue than the people of Britain.