ED - John Wayne and Finn
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Sorry can't remember what Finn's dad is called, but last night he seemingly showed absolutely no emotion about the fact his son was almost murdered. Ross showed more emotion.. as did Victoria... is it me?
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Nope, it's not just you. The guy is just absolutely terrible. Last night was spectacularly bad. "It's Finn ... he was in car in the barn" [DRAMATIC PAUSE] "with the engine running!" I was hit by flying splinters.
The problem is, James as a character has come in and wrecked lives. Lots of lives. He'd just found out in that scene that his youngest son, who hates him for his betrayal, had probably tried to kill himself, and we got ... pure ham. He should be bowed down with guilt about all the lives he's wrecked, but because the actor gives us nothing (in fact he swans around like everything is just fine and dandy), it's impossible to assume anything other than that he is a sociopathic twot and hate the hell out of him.
No, it's not you. But to be fair, he has cornered the market in swaggering, and doing weird things with his jaw. He comes very close to Debbieluv in the ham stakes, as she reacts the same when aiming a shotgun at someone's head as when one of her employees is late back from lunch.
James "Darth" Barton and Marlon "Mr Tickle" Dingle , I don't even know the names of the actors but they are excruciatingly bad.
Its rare I'll knock an actual actor (as opposed to a character) because I know how hard it is but those two have no business robbing a job from a decent jobbing actor.
I noticed that too. Ross was the only one who showed any emotion for his little brother. I loved the scene when he said I only ever came home for my wee brother.
Even Pete didn't show much emotion and James showed none at all.
I think we are seeing a different side to bad boy Ross.
I know what you mean - I don't normally like to get personal about actors - but Bill Ward as James is wrecking what could be a really good story, because his reactions are just all out of kilter with what's actually happening. Is James not horrified by what he's done, blowing Adam's paternity open? Throwing Adam and Finn both off the rails, wrecking Moira's marriage? He just doesn't seem to give a fcuk about any of it.
I think that's the point... he is trying to show emotion and probably believes he's doing a fine job but he's simply too wooden to emote properly.
He only has two expressions... smirking / not smirking
BIB - Just watched it again on itvplayer.. it's genuinely hilarious the way he says it. I know it shouldn't be. Just everything about last nights episode with him in it shouted wooden. I also wish he would stop all the swaggering about like he in John Wayne..
Maybe he just doesn't feel comfortable with the role. Charlie Stubbs was an out and out bad 'un - but maybe he doesn't really get who James is meant to be. I'm not sure I do either. But he plays him like a blundering insensitive dick.
I agree but they dont always transcend well - look at Michelle Collins as Cindy Beale who was a great character in EE but one of the worst turkeys ever on Corrie as Stella. We all loved PC Belamy but Daz on Emmerdale is just a gravy faced skank who bored me to death.
James Lumberjack Barton is truly terrible, more wooden than a tent pole and has this wierd way of talking like his dentures are about to fall out.
i dont mind bill ward i also like his character in emmerdale - he never knew he had another son and when he did click then why should he keep it to himself? Id find it hard to carry a secret like that.
Only Ross interests me why can't they bin the rest.
I know what you mean, but if two of my sons had just hit the bottle and were having a full-scale breakdown as a result of my actions, I don't think I'd be wandering round in drag, smirking, and flirting with my girlfriend.
LOL
*swaggers up*
*invades your personal space*
*smirks*
"I don't know ..." [DRAMATIC PAUSE] "what you mean!!"
*exits woodenly, slamming door*
..... and frowns, my God he can frown!:o
that's actually concentration as he tries desperately to remember his lines.
My cringe meter just couldn`t take anymore and it blew up last night.
Please Kate Oates....get rid of him - and Adumb too
Captain Swagger has probably buried her under the pigsty or something
its going to be Ash's Carole.....
ugh I hope not, Not a big fan of the actress...
Especially the bit in bold.