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Kingsman: The Secret Service

treefr0gtreefr0g Posts: 23,655
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I really like the look of this film. It looks like a good concept.

I hope that the quality of the movie is as good as the trailer.

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    necromancer20necromancer20 Posts: 2,548
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    Matthew Vaughn's a mixed bag for me. I loved Kick-Ass but I thought Layer Cake and X-Men First Class were kinda dull. I'll see it for Samuel L Jackson and Michael Caine.
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    treefr0gtreefr0g Posts: 23,655
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    Matthew Vaughn's a mixed bag for me. I loved Kick-Ass but I thought Layer Cake and X-Men First Class were kinda dull. I'll see it for Samuel L Jackson and Michael Caine.

    I hadn't noticed the director and now with further investigation I see that Jonathan Ross's wife once again, does the screenplay.

    Not that that's a bad thing. Hopefully he will interview her one day :)

    Fingers crossed, it's as good as it looks.
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    necromancer20necromancer20 Posts: 2,548
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    treefr0g wrote: »
    I hadn't noticed the director and now with further investigation I see that Jonathan Ross's wife once again, does the screenplay.

    Not that that's a bad thing. Hopefully he will interview her one day :)

    Fingers crossed, it's as good as it looks.

    Oh yeah, loved the trailer. Though I didn't know Jonathan Ross' wife did this screenplay and for Kick-Ass, wow :o
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    Johnny ClayJohnny Clay Posts: 5,328
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    Christ alive, that looks wretched.

    Wanted with a Hollywoodised 'yoof'. Yeah, cheers.
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    MotthusMotthus Posts: 7,280
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    Pity to read that Kingsman: The Secret Service has been moved back to the 13th February 2015
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,488
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    Motthus wrote: »
    Pity to read that Kingsman: The Secret Service has been moved back to the 13th February 2015

    One of the Empire writers said he'd seen the first 20 minutes or so and it looked very good, so it might not be quality reasons that have pushed it back...
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    MotthusMotthus Posts: 7,280
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    Yeah I read that as well but from what I read that the delay is to market the film and finish some special effects.The move will also put the film up against 50 Shades Of Grey so they think it will do well as a male antidote to that film!
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    MrSuperMrSuper Posts: 18,543
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    Really disappointed this has been pushed back to 2015.

    The trailer looks fantastic and this was one of my most anticipated movies of 2014. Although what's more disturbing is it's being dumped in February. That certainly doesn't bode well.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,488
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    MrSuper wrote: »
    Really disappointed this has been pushed back to 2015.

    The trailer looks fantastic and this was one of my most anticipated movies of 2014. Although what's more disturbing is it's being dumped in February. That certainly doesn't bode well.

    January is where it would be dumped if Fox thought it was shit. February is the big new month for non-blockbuster films that aren't awards contenders. My guess is Matthew Vaughn wants more time, and Fox want to increase awareness, so it's a mutually beneficial thing.
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    MrSuperMrSuper Posts: 18,543
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    My guess is Matthew Vaughn wants more time, and Fox want to increase awareness, so it's a mutually beneficial thing.

    It's all a guess really! No one knows a thing.
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    TakaeTakae Posts: 13,555
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    Oh yeah, loved the trailer. Though I didn't know Jonathan Ross' wife did this screenplay and for Kick-Ass, wow :o

    Jane Goldman.

    Come on, she deserves better respect than being known as 'Jonathan Ross's wife'. :D Here's her other scripts so far:

    The Debt
    X-Men: First Class
    The Woman in Black
    Stardust
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    JCRJCR Posts: 24,070
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    Also scissored at the request of the bbfc this week, along with Taken 3.
    bbfc wrote:
    This film was originally seen for advice in an unfinished version. The company was informed the film was likely to be classified 18, but that their requested 15 could be achieved by making some reductions in scenes of violence. When the finished version was submitted for formal classification, reductions had been made and the film was passed 15.

    Special extended edition 18 cert blu-ray in the offing no doubt.
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    007Fusion007Fusion Posts: 3,657
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    This will flop hard.

    The recent trailers have kind of dulled, the minimal curiosity I had about this film.
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    Los_TributosLos_Tributos Posts: 2,100
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    007Fusion wrote: »
    This will flop hard.

    Not a chance. This comment reminds me of the thread predicting Guardians of the Galaxy would flop.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,488
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    Not a chance. This comment reminds me of the thread predicting Guardians of the Galaxy would flop.

    I don't know, Guardians of the Galaxy was a PG-13, Kingsman is unlikely to be, if it got an 18 uncut...

    And Guardians had the added advantage of having an inbuilt fanbase. Millar and Gibbons have fanbases, but not on that level...
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    MotthusMotthus Posts: 7,280
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    Didn't the previous poster say that it was passed by the BBFC as a 15 not a 18?

    Im really looking forward to watching this film but I think the trailers have not shown how violent this film is going to be!
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    MrSuperMrSuper Posts: 18,543
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    This has been getting fantastic reviews over in the States where it's already been screened at various events, etc. The reviews have ALL mentioned the film is extremely violent, so they've probably seen the uncut version. Such a shame we're going to get the censored version just so it can get a 15 certificate for the kids! So f*cking annoying!

    Matthew Vaughn has once again knocked it out of the park. Colin Firth is also great in this.
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    007Fusion007Fusion Posts: 3,657
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    Not a chance. This comment reminds me of the thread predicting Guardians of the Galaxy would flop.

    I wasn't trying to be antagonistic. I'am basing this on the studio's lack of faith in the project, the move to Jan/Feb and the desperate scattergun approach, to promotional material. They've given too much away, to generate interest.

    On top of that, it's 15 Certificate (American 'R' rating) alienates their money-maker crowd. This is a child's film. I can't see older people being interested.
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    Los_TributosLos_Tributos Posts: 2,100
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    007Fusion wrote: »
    I wasn't trying to be antagonistic. I'am basing this on the studio's lack of faith in the project, the move to Jan/Feb and the desperate scattergun approach, to promotional material. They've given too much away, to generate interest.

    On top of that, it's 15 Certificate (American 'R' rating) alienates their money-maker crowd. This is a child's film. I can't see older people being interested.

    No problem, I didn't see it as being antagonistic.

    I'm basing my opinion on pre-release tracking which is looking very healthy, along with mainly positive reviews, and by all accounts it was made on quite a low budget, so I don't think there'll be much difficulty turning a profit on this one.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,488
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    007Fusion wrote: »
    I wasn't trying to be antagonistic. I'am basing this on the studio's lack of faith in the project, the move to Jan/Feb and the desperate scattergun approach, to promotional material. They've given too much away, to generate interest.

    On top of that, it's 15 Certificate (American 'R' rating) alienates their money-maker crowd. This is a child's film. I can't see older people being interested.

    Moving to January is low faith, February is the new place to put non-blockbusters that aren't likely to win Oscars. I think a move to February might indicate the studio has more faith in the film.

    There have been 18s that have been cut down to PG-13 (notably Taken), but I very much doubt this will be one of those.
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    Johnny ClayJohnny Clay Posts: 5,328
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    Difficult to say how it'll fare really. Opening the same weekend as 50 Shades looks like counter-programming from Fox, and as always that could go either way. But I imagine Fox will be more invested in Taken 3, which opens a month earlier, as well as pushing whatever Award interests they have (if any). The awards themselves will doubtlessly be getting as much media space as possible too.

    On paper, it's perhaps got its work cut out. It all depends if audiences really want the sort of flippant violent action it looks like its trading on. But you never know - it could prove a surprise, and maybe do a 'Lucy'.
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    JasonJason Posts: 76,557
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    I suppose one problem they'll have with this is that people might possibly not bother with the cinema release in the hope that the uncut 18 rated version will be released on disc.
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    MotthusMotthus Posts: 7,280
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    I don't see Kingsman The Secret Service as a child's film like previous poster has stated as its aimed at the same adult audience that went to see Kick Ass which was also a 15

    Im really looking forward to seeing it but it's a pity that we won't see the uncut version in the cinema
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    JasonJason Posts: 76,557
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    Motthus wrote: »
    I don't see Kingsman The Secret Service as a child's film like previous poster has stated as its aimed at the same adult audience that went to see Kick Ass which was also a 15

    Im really looking forward to seeing it but it's a pity that we won't see the uncut version in the cinema

    I did think the "child's film" comment was rather strange also. I certainly agree with you that it's probably in the same bracket as something like Kick Ass.
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    Johnny ClayJohnny Clay Posts: 5,328
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    Maybe "child's film" is going too far.

    But the whole aspect of "yeah, yeah, violence! yeah, yeah, cool!" that films like this seem to possess does come over as somewhat adolescent. To some of us anyway.
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