Michael Jackson/Conrad Murray Trial

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  • GlomperGlomper Posts: 3,250
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    zoe_lou wrote: »
    I think he swore at the start yesterday, quite frustrating start for them i think ha




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    Glomper wrote: »
    The bespectacled defence lawyer just said "f**k it" to the judge in frustration !

    It sure sounded like that .....

    Just rewound SKY+ during break, he said it for sure.

    Then he got called up to the judge.
  • franciefrancie Posts: 31,089
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    zoe_lou wrote: »
    ok, not ignoring, will do when got my baby in bed

    No problems, don't if you can't. I know what it's like with a little one :)
  • GlomperGlomper Posts: 3,250
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    I note the defence lawyer was trying to imply MJ could reach the pills from the bed, the table being around 2 feet from the bed.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,322
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    francie wrote: »
    No problems, don't if you can't. I know what it's like with a little one :)

    its not a link, someone I follow on twitter from associated press, i have no idea who he is, just has little bits about the trial

    mccartneyAPAnthony McCartney

    Prosecutor told judge that toxicology and other experts will be called. Says he "may" call detective who will play interview.

    Dont know if im reading it wrong, but i got that as only may call that detective

    EDIT: I think i may have read it wrong, looking back. It was late at night when i first saw it, im as bad as this woman :|
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,569
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    He's playing her like a Piano at the moment.
    I can see this lady being in a lot of trouble after this.
  • glasshalffullglasshalffull Posts: 22,291
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    He's playing her like a Piano at the moment.
    I can see this lady being in a lot of trouble after this.

    The absence of a photo of this bag with bottle in it could be a serious problem for the prosecution...they have her word, possibly that of a cop and the dodgy Alvarez it was ever there.

    And he has also dragged out of her that the house was not secured for a period before she returned for the second round of evidence collection :eek:
  • franciefrancie Posts: 31,089
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    The absence of a photo of this bag with bottle in it could be a serious problem for the prosecution...they have her word, possibly that of a cop and the dodgy Alvarez it was ever there.

    And he has also dragged out of her that the house was not secured for a period before she returned for the second round of evidence collection :eek:

    I also raised that in a previous post - I think this will be major factor, imo, for the Defence.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,322
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    why didnt she take a picture of the bottle in the bag? surely that is something you would do
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,569
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    zoe_lou wrote: »
    why didnt she take a picture of the bottle in the bag? surely that is something you would do

    seems insane.
    take picture of bottle in Bag THEN take the picture currently being used.:eek:
  • franciefrancie Posts: 31,089
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    zoe_lou wrote: »
    why didnt she take a picture of the bottle in the bag? surely that is something you would do

    You would have thought so. The only thing I find heartening really is the fact that she's admitting to making some mistakes, she could have easily have "doctored" the pics/notes etc to cover her own back.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,322
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    Thats it they're just mistakes, not trying to hide anything, she's not doing anything criminal

    (unlike some in that room.....)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 234
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    Big, no, HUGE mistake, not taking a photo of the bottle in the bag!
  • franciefrancie Posts: 31,089
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    zoe_lou wrote: »
    Thats it they're just mistakes, not trying to hide anything, she's not doing anything criminal

    (unlike some in that room.....)

    Yeah but those mistakes could cost / undermine the Prosecution's case. If enough witnesses are shown to make mistakes then....:(
  • glasshalffullglasshalffull Posts: 22,291
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    francie wrote: »
    You would have thought so. The only thing I find heartening really is the fact that she's admitting to making some mistakes, she could have easily have "doctored" the pics/notes etc to cover her own back.

    You're right she could have...but I also recall defence trying to press Alvarez on exactly when he drew the picture indicating the bottle in the bag...I got the impression it was not in 2009.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,569
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    By the look on her Face I think she knows that couldnt have gone anyworse even if she tried,
  • franciefrancie Posts: 31,089
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    You're right she could have...but I also recall defence trying to press Alvarez on exactly when he drew the picture indicating the bottle in the bag...I got the impression it was not in 2009.

    It did seem a tad shaky to me at the time they showed the different drawings, maybe there was some "prompting" or "refreshing" going on :rolleyes: They reminded me of a child's drawing (1st) and then an adults :)
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,322
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    francie wrote: »
    Yeah but those mistakes could cost / undermine the Prosecution's case. If enough witnesses are shown to make mistakes then....:(

    I know, I need to stay optimistic though :(
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,569
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    the way this is dragging on I cant see the police being called again today it looks like its still with the coroners office.
  • LamparillaLamparilla Posts: 588
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    francie wrote: »
    It did seem a tad shaky to me at the time they showed the different drawings, maybe there was some "prompting" or "refreshing" going on :rolleyes: They reminded me of a child's drawing (1st) and then an adults :)

    Yes - I made this point on the evening Alvarez testified, but I thought that the defence didn't press him enough on the amazing difference between the two sketches.

    They did, however, ask him if the prosecution had got him to do the second drawing, and he made out that he didn't know what they meant, but then agreed that he had indeed drawn it for the prosecution.
  • JamesC81JamesC81 Posts: 14,792
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    this guy is a bit wordy
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,322
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    *no finger prints of michaels found on anything
  • glasshalffullglasshalffull Posts: 22,291
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    francie wrote: »
    It did seem a tad shaky to me at the time they showed the different drawings, maybe there was some "prompting" or "refreshing" going on :rolleyes: They reminded me of a child's drawing (1st) and then an adults :)

    I'm glad you said it first...not me...at some point...possibly at prelim...I think the prosecution realised they were shaky on this.

    What I don't understand is that the DA must or should have known this...instead of the snow job of droning on yesterday about juice bottles...he should have got her to say what she said on re-direct UP FRONT yesterday.

    It left the door open for defence to make this point and thus cast more doubt on the conduct of that work.

    And since she was supposed to be there to collect "Medical evidence" why the hell didn't she take the IV bag on that stand on 25th...if an IV stand and tubing is not medical what the heck is it. :eek:
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 3,569
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    JamesC81 wrote: »
    this guy is a bit wordy

    I can see this being a very long stint.
  • [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 1,322
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    have you seen the size of his file!
    I think we'll have him rest of the night
  • franciefrancie Posts: 31,089
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    JamesC81 wrote: »
    this guy is a bit wordy

    I'm finding him quite interesting at the moment, amazing what I've learnt since this trial started.

    I'm wondering who, from the Defence, is going to take on this confident/self assured witness!
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