I really enjoyed the episode. However two things struck me as I was watching...
1. The toy soldier without a gun / the bravest of them all - an allegory for the Doctor?
2. Perhaps a new layer / meaning into the Face of Boe's words - 'You Are Not Alone'?
Ooo I like that thought about "You Are Not Alone"
Did anyone else think the thing at the end of the universe could have been related to The Master? Wasn't that where his Utopia was?
The contrast between this week and last week is quite striking to say the least. While 'RoS' played it very safe (nothing wrong with that BTW, I'm not criticizing), this episode took some risks.
That's why I love Doctor Who. You just never quite know what you're going to get.
Watched this one twice now. I usually love the more understated Moffat episodes and I really loved the first 30 minutes of this one but the ending makes no sense. It's one of those things where initially it's great but after a while makes zero sense.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the episode pretty much says there was no monster and it was in The Doctor's head because Clara actually scared him when he was young? Right?
So what the hell is the point of the rest of the monster stuff in the episode? It doesn't add up.
Have not posted on here for a while, but just have to say this episode totally blow me away, Moffat can run this show to the end of time in my eyes if he keeps writing episodes like this!!!!!!
Capaldi is awesome as ever, loving Clara more and more as this series is going on, it makes me hope the rumour of her leaving at Xmas is bullcrap!
My interpretation is that the Doctor created the Doctor... She only told the Child what she had learned from his 2000 year old self.
This is the kind of thing that can give one a headache! (Like the never ending loop of the travels of the toy soldier) Incidentally, the idea that the Doctor can be afraid ties in quite nicely with Hartnell's stories in early Who.
Felt a bit disjointed and left some gaping questions like if it's all just imaginary than what was that thing under the covers and what was Orson afraid of and what opened the door? It didn't explain it very well.
Did really enjoy the scary moments though. 6.5/10 from me
All of that wS explained. Probably another kid in the home who seen Clara and rupert under the bed and heard their chat who was playing tricks on them.
Orson was alone for six months and at the end of the world. Over time with the creaking of the pipes and cooling of the shell of the ship he just became paranoid.
The doctor said it was pressurised and after he unlocked it and broke the seal it opened itself with the pressure difference.
Anyway, loved it. Squealed like. Fan girl throughout. Really enjoyed all 4 episodes so far so for me this series is sitting very high. Only the opening 20 of deep breath has let me Down. Loved ItD and enjoyed RoS and this was a modern classic
That was a mind **** and a half. Going to have to rewatch it again.
I loved Peter and Jenna's interactions with each other. Their personal insults were quite amusing. I especially loved the 'Grey haired stick insect' line.
Danny Pink is beyond terrible. I hope he just a one series character.
Have not posted on here for a while, but just have to say this episode totally blow me away, Moffat can run this show to the end of time in my eyes if he keeps writing episodes like this!!!!!!!
It's funny, this episode made me post too. It's about two years since my last post here. Speaks volumes about the quality of what we have just seen.
Could have been a bald Clara gone back to be there knowing she had to be there. She does have a wide face and big eyes remember and that looks to have a wide face and big eyes
Did anyone else think the thing at the end of the universe could have been related to The Master? Wasn't that where his Utopia was?
I assumed it was after Utopia - wherever it was the Toclafane ended up after they'd died out. We were told in Last of the Time Lords that Utopia hadn't worked as salvation for the human race.
I think that this weeks episode was more of a plot/character development story than anything else. Moffatt is trying to introduce the Danny Pink character and this was to give him some sort of context. I thought that it worked quite well. I need to watch the last ten minutes again though as that obviously involved the a doctor as a child. I missed the reason for them showing John Hurt's doctor.
They've done quite a few episodes/stories like this in Classic Doctor Who - Edge of Destruction is one example, but it's pretty brave to do it with New Who. It worked for me in general, so no complaints.
This is the kind of thing that can give one a headache! (Like the never ending loop of the travels of the toy soldier) Incidentally, the idea that the Doctor can be afraid ties in quite nicely with Hartnell's stories in early Who.
We shouldn't forget that the Doctor was a tearful (scared?) child already before Clara arrived and gave him words of wisdom from his older self.
As I said I earlier I did really enjoy the episode but there is too much Clara and I want to know the doctor better and I know the date thing was a plot device but I hope they don't keep doing that.
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Ooo I like that thought about "You Are Not Alone"
Did anyone else think the thing at the end of the universe could have been related to The Master? Wasn't that where his Utopia was?
That's why I love Doctor Who. You just never quite know what you're going to get.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the episode pretty much says there was no monster and it was in The Doctor's head because Clara actually scared him when he was young? Right?
So what the hell is the point of the rest of the monster stuff in the episode? It doesn't add up.
Capaldi is awesome as ever, loving Clara more and more as this series is going on, it makes me hope the rumour of her leaving at Xmas is bullcrap!
This is how I interpreted it too..
I have been lukewarm to the show and to the Doctor this series, even though I love PC as an actor. Tonight he became the Doctor for me. Loved it.
Now then, now then, haven't you figured who it is yet?
This is the kind of thing that can give one a headache! (Like the never ending loop of the travels of the toy soldier) Incidentally, the idea that the Doctor can be afraid ties in quite nicely with Hartnell's stories in early Who.
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All of that wS explained. Probably another kid in the home who seen Clara and rupert under the bed and heard their chat who was playing tricks on them.
Orson was alone for six months and at the end of the world. Over time with the creaking of the pipes and cooling of the shell of the ship he just became paranoid.
The doctor said it was pressurised and after he unlocked it and broke the seal it opened itself with the pressure difference.
Anyway, loved it. Squealed like. Fan girl throughout. Really enjoyed all 4 episodes so far so for me this series is sitting very high. Only the opening 20 of deep breath has let me Down. Loved ItD and enjoyed RoS and this was a modern classic
I loved Peter and Jenna's interactions with each other. Their personal insults were quite amusing. I especially loved the 'Grey haired stick insect' line.
Danny Pink is beyond terrible. I hope he just a one series character.
It's funny, this episode made me post too. It's about two years since my last post here. Speaks volumes about the quality of what we have just seen.
Could have been a bald Clara gone back to be there knowing she had to be there. She does have a wide face and big eyes remember and that looks to have a wide face and big eyes
I assumed it was after Utopia - wherever it was the Toclafane ended up after they'd died out. We were told in Last of the Time Lords that Utopia hadn't worked as salvation for the human race.
I like to assume all monsters we don't see are the silience and you forget them as soon as you turn away
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Its Clara without her makeup on, what did you think the bit about her make up and having a wide face was about?;-)
They've done quite a few episodes/stories like this in Classic Doctor Who - Edge of Destruction is one example, but it's pretty brave to do it with New Who. It worked for me in general, so no complaints.
We shouldn't forget that the Doctor was a tearful (scared?) child already before Clara arrived and gave him words of wisdom from his older self.
we do need our poll and the thread to be pinned!
It's a conspiracy! ;-) I'm not allowed to vote Excellent!
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Same here I want to vote too!