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Brits want out of EU and say he is the wrong man for the job.
alanwarwic
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2673635/Britons-demand-Euro-exit-Shock-MoS-poll-says-voters-agree-Cameron-right-block-President-worry-claims-new-man-cognac-breakfast.html
News to me. I can't really say I even know him, though I know he was the only candidate for the job.
It is kind of strange how I have to read a newspaper to find out what I think/should think.
It even seems I want out of the EU so that I can become my own little island again.
:rolleyes:
News to me. I can't really say I even know him, though I know he was the only candidate for the job.
It is kind of strange how I have to read a newspaper to find out what I think/should think.
It even seems I want out of the EU so that I can become my own little island again.
:rolleyes:
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Don't be silly...it's obvious the people of the UK have been following with close interest the actions of Mr Juncker as the PM of Luxembourg for the last eighteen years.
Those actions have been reported assiduously by the Daily Mail....almost as assiduously as they comment on the growing up of young girls and provide the photographic evidence to prove it ;-)
Totally agree, but then it's only what we would expect from that 'comic' I particularly like the use of words like "Brits" the implication being all of us, and "demand" so the 47% in one poll are demanding we leave, because those that want to leave have very strong convictions and opinions and are demanding that we leave,
While the 39% of us who want to stay in are just a bunch of half hearted wishy washy weaklings who don't hold such strong opinions, because we are only "in favour" of staying in,
"if that's OK with the rest of you, I mean, we don't want to cause a fuss or anything, our opinions are weak and slightly pathetic compared to you strong minded lot who DEMAND that we leave"
As for Cameron words (almost) fail me,
Apparently behaving like a petulant schoolboy who because he can't get his own way, throws a tantrum and threatens to take his ball home,
and even though every other member state except one thinks he is wrong they are trying to remain polite and patient with him, even though they obviously think he's an arrogant spoilt brat who seems to think that the British are 'superior' to every other European state, so they had damn well better change the rules to suit us or else.
Is....... "strong leadership" and alienating us from every other European country is "good for Britain and our reputation"
it's bloody embarrassing that's what it is, he's acting like the obnoxious friend you have taken to a party who has got drunk and wants to fight everyone.
Strong leadership Dave? you want to seem like a strong leader and a man of principle and integrity? Then stop d1cking around, grow a pair and admit that the rest of the EU have extended their proverbial middle fingers and invited you to swivel, and that your chances of gaining ANYTHING meaningful from any re-negotiation are as good as dead,
So either bring forward the in/out referendum to before the election, or do the honorable thing (fat chance) and resign.
So what?
To the best of my knowledge, the Labour party does not stand for election in Northern Ireland, hence no one votes for the Labour Party in NI. Are you saying we can't have (or haven't had) a Labour party PM then?
They can vote SDLP though who are a sister party of Labour and sit with them in the Commons.
The only UK wide party with elected representatives in Northern Ireland is actually UKIP.
Of course Labour won a landslide in 2005 on 35 per cent of the vote or a quarter of the electorate. So we can all find problems with the unfairness of our elections.
The groaning whining Breetish are increasingly being seen as a PITA by the rest of the world!
Really - you need do get out more. The entire world elite cannot wait to buy homes in London. Britain as a brand is incredibly powerful - have you for example been recently to places like Singapore and Malaysia where British branding and businesses are everywhere.
They are the future for us - not Greece and Slovakia. Time we left the bankrupt EU and joined the world - cos that's where the future and the money is.
I am in favour of leaving the EU because it is a corrupt monstrosity which is stifling democracy and costing us a fortune, regardless of whether it is popular or not. In any case, the general rule seems to be that support for the EU is unpopular throughout Europe. In Greece, PASOK was in government when it signed an agreement with the EU for a bail-out and austerity. It is now down to 5-6% of the vote. I look forward to seeing the Lib Dims go the same way, followed by the Labour Party.
The majority of the EU want "Ever closer union" so from their point of view the candidate is appropriate.
The UK does not want that, the election results results pretty much prove that.
We are not the same as the ROE, the UK is not compatible, never have and never will be. Its pointless to continue the relationship because it will only ever cause strife.
The thing that has become obvious to me over the last week and many seem to agree according to the poll, is Germany really runs the EU, France gets special privileges and Britain is ignored unless they want more money from us. Everyone else does as their told.
My opinion is that it's the politicians who want ever closer union, not the people......rather like Britain.
Not knowing what's going on in the world you live in is nothing to brag about, in fact its rather sad:
Well if you thought the EU had any interest at all in adapting to Britain's wants, you've now had your answer. Plain and simple to understand, except perhaps for people like Jeremy Hunt.
Britain needs to stop winging and get on with making the most of the EU and all the opportunities it provides for trade.
Sick and tired of hearing from moronic whinging racists.
The EU being organised is what has stopped wars, at least here in the EU.
Dismantle the thing and we will get back to good old fashioned gun fights.
I think Cameron was mainly playing to his gallery. Yet he sounded badly out of tune.
The Mail does what it usually does, casts its own opinion onto us.
Not really. Many Europeans support the EU because they feel it's not as corrupt as their own government. Many have also felt the benefit since joining. Finally, unlike the UK, parts of Europe still reveal their history. Take the Italian Dolomites - very much part of Italy but you wouldn't think it if you went there. Your eyes and ears would tell you you're almost certainly in Germany.
I doubt that the EU can claim to have prevented any wars it's more likely in my mind that it's because of countries now having nuclear weapons and the risk of anything escalating is just too high. I'm always a bit wary of centralizing power because that's what leads to governments becoming less accountable to the people they represent. People have tried to unite Europe under a single authority before and they were corrupted by the power. I don't see how any group who had consolidated power over an entire continent wouldn't be corrupted by that power almost immediately.
The Tories love centralised power and the EU is a hindrance on them having London as the Tsar base.
I now hear that their election manifesto includes mandatory weekly bin collections.
What a load of dictat rubbish!
He was the candidate of the mainstream Conservative group........so if the Tories had stayed in that group they'd have had a say in who the candidate was
Running away to sit with right wing nutters from Hungary and Finland and then complaining that they don't like the Conservative candidate comes over as bit whingy.......
Sick and tired of hearing from moronic whinging racists.[/QUOTE]
Hark at you. So anyone who wants to leave the EU is a moronic whinging racist?
You seem to be the one that wants to hang around and only co operate with white Europeans - at the expense of us trading with the diverse rest of the world.
Which shows the supreme stupidity of the Tories for leaving the largest centre right bloc in the European parliament doesn't it. Its akin to the Tories telling Labour who they can elect as leader.