I would treat them exactly the same as anyone who comes back after fighting for the IDF or any other foreign way (including people like Mark Thatcher and others who may have tried to organise coups. If there is any evidence of a crime being committed, the charge them with the available evidence.
And if the law is changed to make it a crime to be in a warzone without the consent of the goverment that will make it easier to punish them
They only want to come back because despite Obama and Cameron declaring to the world we dont have a strategy yet we've been bombing the crap out of them for weeks and have had special forces on the ground for the last couple of months.
Would you be happy to have the law changed to make it easier to prosecute them ?
If they haven't committed crimes, then why should they be prosecuted? if the law is changed, I don't think they can be charged with things they did before the law was changed. Therefore they should probably be charged under the law as it presently stands, if there is a crime they have committed that there is enough evidence to convict them on.
As soon as they went off to fight in Syria and/or Iraq, they forfeited any rights under British Law.
Was anyone particularly bothered about British citizens joining ISIS to take on Assad and his army? They went on a butchering spree there. The US certainly weren't bothered about him. No-one had any idea that they meant what they said about a caliphate and world dominance. Assad was an enemy but without rich oil supplies or investment for the US, in particular, to worry about. Oil supplies and investment is the main reason they are bombing northern Iraq now.
Was anyone particularly bothered about British citizens joining ISIS to take on Assad and his army? They went on a butchering spree there. The US certainly weren't bothered about him. No-one had any idea that they meant what they said about a caliphate and world dominance. Assad was an enemy but without rich oil supplies or investment for the US, in particular, to worry about. Oil supplies and investment is the main reason they are bombing northern Iraq now.
We weren't backing and funding ISIS. We were backing the free syrian army, genuine freedom fighters who wanted to break free from assads regime, ISIS are a splinter group so you cant blame the west for arming ISIS.
We weren't backing and funding ISIS. We were backing the free syrian army, genuine freedom fighters who wanted to break free from assads regime, ISIS are a splinter group so you cant blame the west for arming ISIS.
By carefully monitoring them and if they step out of line (I suspect that only a tiny minority would do so) and start contemplating domestic terrorism then a ton of proverbial bricks should fall upon them in terms of prosecution and deterrent sentences.
I assure you I wasn't. I am fully aware of the difference between FSA and ISIS and I have no idea why you assumed this from my post.
You never made any distinction between the people fighting Assad and those who are now ISIS and were just heaping ire on people who didn't oppose the FSA.
Interesting story today in the Times and other papers .
What's really interesting is the reasons some want to come back . They didn't realise that they would be fighting and killing other Muslims and are now annoyed that they won't go to heaven and shag the 72 Virgins .....they thought that they would be killing infidels , alawaits .christians and other non Muslims .....
Personally I would ensure a swift court case and long prison sentences . As its the UK I'm sure they will be forgiven and " rehbilitated " .The many professionals that went out there will be eased back into cushy jobs in the law and NHS etc . The others ...well the lucrative benefit system awaits them .
By carefully monitoring them and if they step out of line (I suspect that only a tiny minority would do so) and start contemplating domestic terrorism then a ton of proverbial bricks should fall upon them in terms of prosecution and deterrent sentences.
Is this a serious post? Keep a jolly close eye on them, and if the blighters step out of line then they'll be in bloomin' bother? That'll teach them, won't it. I mean, having just got back from massacring innocent people in the name of 'religion', this 'deterrent' will have them quaking in their boots.
As for the BIB, dear oh dear. If you were on QI it would be flashing on the screen behind you.
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And if the law is changed to make it a crime to be in a warzone without the consent of the goverment that will make it easier to punish them
Life sentence sounds good enough.
Would you be happy to have the law changed to make it easier to prosecute them ?
Yeah i obviously meant the ones who have been killing for the isis group.
If they haven't committed crimes, then why should they be prosecuted? if the law is changed, I don't think they can be charged with things they did before the law was changed. Therefore they should probably be charged under the law as it presently stands, if there is a crime they have committed that there is enough evidence to convict them on.
As soon as they went off to fight in Syria and/or Iraq, they forfeited any rights under British Law.
Was anyone particularly bothered about British citizens joining ISIS to take on Assad and his army? They went on a butchering spree there. The US certainly weren't bothered about him. No-one had any idea that they meant what they said about a caliphate and world dominance. Assad was an enemy but without rich oil supplies or investment for the US, in particular, to worry about. Oil supplies and investment is the main reason they are bombing northern Iraq now.
We weren't backing and funding ISIS. We were backing the free syrian army, genuine freedom fighters who wanted to break free from assads regime, ISIS are a splinter group so you cant blame the west for arming ISIS.
I wasn't.
That was what you were trying to insinuate because you didn't realise the distinction between the FSA and ISIS.
of course...;-)
By carefully monitoring them and if they step out of line (I suspect that only a tiny minority would do so) and start contemplating domestic terrorism then a ton of proverbial bricks should fall upon them in terms of prosecution and deterrent sentences.
I assure you I wasn't. I am fully aware of the difference between FSA and ISIS and I have no idea why you assumed this from my post.
You never made any distinction between the people fighting Assad and those who are now ISIS and were just heaping ire on people who didn't oppose the FSA.
They (mostly) aren't the same people.
I couldn't possibly comment without being banned.
Is this a serious post? Keep a jolly close eye on them, and if the blighters step out of line then they'll be in bloomin' bother? That'll teach them, won't it. I mean, having just got back from massacring innocent people in the name of 'religion', this 'deterrent' will have them quaking in their boots.
As for the BIB, dear oh dear. If you were on QI it would be flashing on the screen behind you.