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The future of STV after 2014 and new Scottish Channel?
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http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/news/a288272/greg-dyke-backs-new-scottish-tv-channel.html
I hope ITV Scotland is launched by 2014 and maybe give up Freeview channel 6 in Scotland to move STV onto? I think STV should become a digital channel and get extra funding from BBC Scotland to give it appeal.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/news/a288272/greg-dyke-backs-new-scottish-tv-channel.html
I hope ITV Scotland is launched by 2014 and maybe give up Freeview channel 6 in Scotland to move STV onto? I think STV should become a digital channel and get extra funding from BBC Scotland to give it appeal.
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News and weather is all we need, and that sits nicely on the services we already have.
I do not wish one penny of my licence fee to go to STV, if the SNP want to go on an ego trip with their own TV station then they should fund it themselves. STV claim their programme policies are successful so they should be able to afford it.
I am all for a new Channel for Scotland but now is not a good time when established channels all over the UK are facing problems and need fixing. The time is not right the media industry is changing so fast and many new developments are happing in the next few years as well as the financial problems now is not the right time for a new channel in Scotland especially if we want a good financed channel that can produce and buy good quality programming and not a cheap knock off of ITV or we might as well allow ITV1 on Freeview in Scotland.
People bypassing STV that's a myth put about by ITV they don't mention the thousands in England and Wales that watched Taggart and Underbelly on STV. STV ratings and finances are better than they ever were under ITV. STV player, superior HD stronger online market none which could be achieved with ITV. The countless press releases and articles I have provided finace reports and articles before speak for themselves STV has a working business stratagy ITV does not they just spend and get further into debt.
I don't know about that. I know many people who use itv1 on Sky and Virgin to avoid STV and these people aren't technically minded.
I think most people would be happy with itv1 and local news and weather.
As for another Scottish channel, no thanks. It would be cheap and nasty and probably have heather and tartan spilling out it like so much scottish made programming has.
It was suggested it would show classic Still Game, Take The High Road, Wheel of Fortune and some other classics. Add some of STV's homegrown stuff maybe Taggart could be a half decent channel.
Not everyone in Scotland is fed up with STV. So dont know how you think they are.
Yes a few maybe fed up with STV but not everyone as you say and as I have said before I dont want the full ITV1 channel up here and hope we dont get ITV1 Scotland.
Darren
The problem is STV's programming strategy. If ITV give them channel 6 on DTT once everywhere is digital I don't see the issue.
I could barely take Sunday night having to put up with X Factor AND I'm a Celeb.
There's little point having another Scottish channel. It would be better investing the money into BBC Scotland and STV so they can produce and sell their own content. Perhaps insist that it's not all Weegie based pish as well.
I am fed up with Stv and the vast majority of my friends are. Currently enjoying live football on Itv1. Would have been nice if Stv could opt out of England games & have shown Scotland's friendly last night. Alas, that would involve Stv spending some money and showing viewers something that they want. Instead we miss out on live football and get a crappy film. Guess Stv's audience will be well down on Itv's tonight?
Why whould ITV tell STV to move to Channel 6? STV is a Channel 3 Licence holder and choose to retain their Channel 3 PSB commitments without complaining like a spoilt brat, something ITV Plc should hold their head in shame for.
If ITV Plc want to broadcast to Scotland after they drop their Channel 3 Licence they should obtain their own channel number and not tell another company who is perfectly entitled to be on Channel 3 to shove off.
In that case it would be:
BBC One Scotland
BBC Two
STV
Channel 4
Five
ITV1
STV would be stripped off all ITV programming. Still I assume ITV1 Scotland could still perform well on Channel six. STV have resorted to buying programming like 'South Park' from Viacom before so maybe if that happened they will look towards the digital market?
Of course you're right DejaVoodoo. Far better that we celebrate lowlife trash from The Smoke in the form of Eastenders, alongside dimwitted D listers doing the rounds of daytime telly not to mention odious little convicted criminals flogging antiques etc on BBC1. That's what entertainment's all about.
as itv plc owns SDN (who operate multiplex A) it would have the option of using some of that space, when current contracts expire.
Current Television channels on multiplex A:
8 - TeleG (Scotland only)
10 - ITV3
16 - QVC (limited airtime in Wales)
17 - G.O.L.D.*
20 - Channel One (limited airtime in Wales)
23 - bid tv
26 - Home*
28 - E4 (Wales only)
30 - Fiver
31 - Five USA
34 - ESPN UK*
35 - ITV Preview 1
38 - Quest
43 - Gems TV
72 - CITV (Not available in Wales)
86 - S4C2 (Wales only)
92 - ADULT Section
93 - TVX / Red Hot TV
98 - TMTV (Not available in Wales)
189 - ADULT Section
191 - Red Hot TV
192 - Filth
307 - Top Up TV Anytime 1
309 - Top Up TV Anytime 3
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S4C_Digital_Networks
That would be wishful thinking, even though I'd like to see Regional ITV make a return, but if that did happen we would have people on here complaining that Program X and Y is not in their ITV Region :rolleyes:
It would be like STV basing but on a national scale, but I guess some people forget or are too young to recall that opting out of programmes or entire series was very common in the old days. ITV was very Regional back in the 80's. The ITV Variations section of the TV Times back then did show that and each ITV Region has their own version of the guide as well given it was that different.
As they have the SDN Mux, if they do give up on their Channel 3 Licence they should also give up their gifted space on the PBB Mux. Gven they would no longer be a PSB and give the space on the PSB Mux to someone else. Maybe Ofcom could re-advertise the Channel 3 Licence for England and Wales.
So maybe the solution as others in this thread have said is for STV to broadcast as a seperate channel thus giving Scottish viewers choice 24 hrs a day between STV and a full schedule ITV1.
That would be one solution. But asking STV to move to Channel 6 might be problematic if STV are quite happy to stay where they are and besides as angustay said, there are plans for a seperate local tv channel on CH6 anyway (with similar proposals for CH6 in the rest of the UK).
Personally I always check and watch ITV these days, even though I have to do so online, and almost never watch STV. If we can have both options permanently on freeview, ideal solution imo.
How did you "have to put up with" it? Your remote not work?
ANyway, everyone at work is talking about how you can get ITV1 on satellite. There's nothing ITV are showing that I want to watch that STV aren't, but STV just annoys me that they think all Scottish people want to watch programmes about Scotland. And also, their watch to win thing makes me want to bomb my own home just to get back at my TV. SO I don't watch STV live, i just skip all their ads. I might not do that with ITV, it seems much more professional.
BBC produce better programmes on the whole than STV. It wouldn't be hard given there budget. STV has no money so produces largely guff television.
Anyway I wasn't comparing BBC and STV, but there you go.
ITV 1 show 'live' football - yes, from England or featuring English teams! Well watch ITV 1 then!
We have multi channel tv now...everything will be shown in all areas eventually! In the meantime, let's give STV the chance to do their own thing!
BTW BBC 1 HD shows London programmes:rolleyes:
That doesn't really make sense. Downton Abbey *is* an ITV1 programme. And, although I don't like it at all, what it represents culturally is far less destructive to the vision of Scottishness STV are trying to appeal to than, say, South Park is.
Perhaps they actually watch and enjoy some of the opt-outs, perhaps they have better things to be doing in life than whinging about a TV station trying to make money rather than sell itself down a river to their southern rival, but whenever I log on to DS its like another world. You'd think from the comments here that actually 90% of those in Scotland that can watch ITV1 instead do so and that everyone in Scotland is against STV. This seriously is not the case! Just incase anyone from England, Wales, NI or elsewhere was curious (or even cared!). Just bizarre.
On a side note, me and some friends particularly enjoyed a bit of new Taggart after The X Factor. And if anything annoyed me about the Downton Abbey situation, it was that the Radio Times was plugging it EVERY week that it was on, not even mentioning the replacements, when I have absolutely NO desire to watch it. I would never consider my opinion on DA to be the right one, but judging by some of the comments on here, a lot of you feel as though you are speaking on behalf of a repressed majority, which, I'm afraid, is total tripe!
Blether over.