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Is it time to sack the teachers and employ room supervisors?

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    Musicman103Musicman103 Posts: 2,238
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    darkmoth wrote: »
    So Milton... you still don't know what you are talking about...years on and nothing changes eh

    well he knows nothing about teaching.

    Underworked is not a word I'd use to describe them (having 3 of them in the family).
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    Jane Doh!Jane Doh! Posts: 43,307
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    I think someone needs the sherry bottle prising from his lips.
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    MAWMAW Posts: 38,777
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    Jane Doh! wrote: »
    I think someone needs the sherry bottle prising from his lips.

    And escorting gently back to his room.;)
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,134
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    Girth wrote: »
    Who marks the work and gives the feedback?

    Hello:)

    Work can be marked through a combination of methods- self critique, programs operating mark-as-you-go methods.

    Centralised marking offices.

    The idiots siphoned off into intensive teaching modules.

    The most fundamental tools to learning must include- spelling, essay writing and maths.

    With those basics, anyone can learn, from any method.
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    DeniseDenise Posts: 12,961
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    That may work from further education level like some do already, but definitely not from primary or secondary. To be able to learn from sat at a computer, you first need the basics in place. Not sure how you are going to teach a four year old to read from a computer, it's rather back to front.

    Subjects would be rather limited, nothing that needs practical work, all text based, not to mention the physical and social health of kids who spend all day sat at a computer.

    I don't see how this idea would even save money, you would still need the classrooms for all the computers and someone knowledgeable in all classes to help. All you would be doing is replacing the other teaching aids with computers.
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    Wayne DibblyWayne Dibbly Posts: 3,252
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    Hello:)

    The easy assimilation of knowledge

    Then why are so many people on here as thick as sh*t.
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    darkmothdarkmoth Posts: 12,265
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    MAW wrote: »
    And escorting gently back to his room.;)

    Or cell ;)
    This is the OP who 2 years ago claimed on the BB forum that he had been incarcerated in a Philippine prison...the one where they did the Michael Jackson Thriller dance...the one where the most violent in society are put...:D
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    Musicman103Musicman103 Posts: 2,238
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    WHat's wrong with the old methods of teaching?

    Ever wondered why your parents and grandparents can spell and add up and you can't?
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    GirthGirth Posts: 12,403
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    darkmoth wrote: »
    Or cell ;)
    This is the OP who 2 years ago claimed on the BB forum that he had been incarcerated in a Philippine prison...the one where they did the Michael Jackson Thriller dance...the one where the most violent in society are put...:D
    Presumably it was while incarcerated there that he came up with his radical educational theory. And they say prison doesn't work.

    This compulsive greeting of people is a bit of a worry though.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,134
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    Denise wrote: »
    That may work from further education level like some do already, but definitely not from primary or secondary. To be able to learn from sat at a computer, you first need the basics in place. Not sure how you are going to teach a four year old to read from a computer, it's rather back to front.

    Subjects would be rather limited, nothing that needs practical work, all text based, not to mention the physical and social health of kids who spend all day sat at a computer.

    I don't see how this idea would even save money, you would still need the classrooms for all the computers and someone knowledgeable in all classes to help. All you would be doing is replacing the other teaching aids with computers.

    Hello:)

    You still need to collate information from your practical work- still needs to be imputed somewhere.

    A result determined, judged.

    Also, facial recognition software can be tweaked to judge structure, experiment.

    Not an ideal solution but just to show our techniques can be developed to enhance the learning experience.

    Genius only comes after a problem is discovered

    Four year olds already read from computers.

    Those that aren't savvy enough to take to e-reading can be plucked from the class and sent to home economics
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 14,284
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    Hello:)

    You still need to collate information from your practical work- still needs to be imputed somewhere.

    A result determined, judged.

    Also, facial recognition software can be tweaked to judge structure, experiment.

    Not an ideal solution but just to show our techniques can be developed to enhance the learning experience.

    Genius only comes after a problem is discovered

    Four year olds already read from computers.
    Those that aren't savvy enough to take to e-reading can be plucked from the class and sent to home economics

    Crock. Of. Shite.
    I don't know why I or anyone else has replied to this idiotic thread. Yeah, a four year old who can't read from a computer should be put in a room with a hot stove and sharp knives. Actually, I'd trust a four year old with an Aga and some Sabbtier knives before I'd let you go near them.
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    Jane Doh!Jane Doh! Posts: 43,307
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    Crock. Of. Shite.
    I don't know why I or anyone else has replied to this idiotic thread. Yeah, a four year old who can't read from a computer should be put in a room with a hot stove and sharp knives. Actually, I'd trust a four year old with an Aga and some Sabbtier knives before I'd let you go near them.

    Great post!
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    darkmothdarkmoth Posts: 12,265
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    Girth wrote: »
    Presumably it was while incarcerated there that he came up with his radical educational theory. And they say prison doesn't work.

    This compulsive greeting of people is a bit of a worry though.

    He didn't always used to do the whole 'Hello :)' thing either...he developed that just before BB 2008, and insisted he always had.
    I have to say...it's an MO designed to annoy...so you could say that it is an excellent part of his 'range'..just many of us are wise to him now
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    Musicman103Musicman103 Posts: 2,238
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    Milton> You're making the (wrong) assumption that a teacher just talks at a class. Crap ones may do.

    Where's the interaction with e-learning?
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    Jane Doh!Jane Doh! Posts: 43,307
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    darkmoth wrote: »
    He didn't always used to do the whole 'Hello :)' thing either...he developed that just before BB 2008, and insisted he always had.
    I have to say...it's an MO designed to annoy...so you could say that it is an excellent part of his 'range'..just many of us are wise to him now

    It's rather childish, imo. He may be able to be taken seriously, he may have some good points to make, but as soon as I see that insipid, condescending bloody smiley, I just want to stick a fork in my arm.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,134
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    Crock. Of. Shite.
    I don't know why I or anyone else has replied to this idiotic thread. Yeah, a four year old who can't read from a computer should be put in a room with a hot stove and sharp knives. Actually, I'd trust a four year old with an Aga and some Sabbtier knives before I'd let you go near them.

    Hello:)

    Kids learn cooking on an Aga now?

    It was given as an example of how to match the neutral inclination of a child to a suitable pursuit.

    A four year old can learn from a screen, as long as the screen is suited to a four year old.

    They aren't as scared of new things as the adults seem to be.
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    GirthGirth Posts: 12,403
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    Jane Doh! wrote: »
    he may have some good points to make,
    He really doesn't.
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    MuggsyMuggsy Posts: 19,251
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    Those that aren't savvy enough to take to e-reading can be plucked from the class and sent to home economics

    Where they learn to read and write from following recipes. Where they learn about nutrition and how to provide a balanced diet. Where they become physically fit moving about a kitchen and running around to buy their ingredients. Where they learn about cooperation and teamwork and translating written instructions into practical action.

    Later, of course, they will enter the job market where they will be in competition with those whose only educational experience is sitting alone gawping at a pc screen.

    Parents will be fighting for their children to be admitted to the exclusive home economics classes.:cool:
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,134
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    Milton> You're making the (wrong) assumption that a teacher just talks at a class. Crap ones may do.

    Where's the interaction with e-learning?

    Hello:)

    What is the ratio of good to bad?

    Kids leaving school who can't write, spell or structure a coherent thought.

    And people are becoming protective over a system that is failing most children, if not all.

    E-reading can be made interactive.

    It's a clean slate- it can be modelled in any way we choose.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,908
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    Hello:)

    Let's call the whole thing off- over paid, under-worked teachers- be gone with you.

    Install internet terminals, online education classes.

    Technology inspires children more than teachers do.

    Let's just put a stop to all human contact, after all, that's what we're breeding, kids reliant on PS3s, Wiis, the net, drive thru fast food, who needs social contact or to be educated by a human being, good or bad. Who needs life's lessons , huh?
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,134
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    Muggsy wrote: »
    Where they learn to read and write from following recipes. Where they learn about nutrition and how to provide a balanced diet. Where they become physically fit moving about a kitchen and running around to buy their ingredients. Where they learn about cooperation and teamwork and translating written instructions into practical action.

    Later, of course, they will enter the job market where they will be in competition with those whose only educational experience is sitting along gawping at a pc screen.

    Parents will be fighting for their children to be admitted to the exclusive home economics classes.:cool:

    Hello:)

    And Labour weren't trying to resurrect apprenticeships and push less book-smart pupils into manual careers?
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    bluebladeblueblade Posts: 88,859
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    WHo writes the e learning material?

    Oh, yes, Teachers!

    Of course.

    I don't think a situation in which every single teacher was suddenly sacked and replaced by a computer, could possibly be envisaged. But certainly the addition of more extensive e learning at every level, might well reduce the burden on teachers, and eventually reduce the need for so many teachers.

    Interesting link here
    Class teacher Chris Smy is second in the maths department and e-learning co-ordinator at The John Bentley School in Wiltshire. The school has 1,200 pupils and serves a highly mixed community, including some of the most and least affluent wards in the country. It has specialist language status.

    "Too many young people start their GCSEs feeling that because they are on foundation courses, they cannot achieve high grades and so are heading for failure. So the idea of students being able to gain hooks into higher levels of the diploma, and so be encouraged to carry on, seems very positive.

    As a school, we are very committed to e-learning solutions. The evolution of a portal hosted by the south-west grid for learning (one of 10 regional broadband consortia in England) will enable us to broaden our curriculum in line with the proposals, though as a rural school we face special challenges in this respect. We have forged a good collegiate relationship with other schools.
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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 7,134
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    Riccy wrote: »
    Let's just put a stop to all human contact, after all, that's what we're breeding, kids reliant on PS3s, Wiis, the net, drive thru fast food, who needs social contact or to be educated by a human being, good or bad.

    Hello:)

    They are learning together, in a huge hall, being entranced by the technology that surrounds them.
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    MuggsyMuggsy Posts: 19,251
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    Hello:)

    And Labour weren't trying to resurrect apprenticeships and push less book-smart pupils into manual careers?

    And haven't we all heard stories about graduates then choosing to follow appreticeships in plumbing etc?
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    darkmothdarkmoth Posts: 12,265
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    Jane Doh! wrote: »
    It's rather childish, imo. He may be able to be taken seriously, he may have some good points to make, but as soon as I see that insipid, condescending bloody smiley, I just want to stick a fork in my arm.

    I feel your pain :p However, after 2 years of half truths, downright lies and limp attempts to wind up other members....I don't think he has any good points.
    The :) smiley is more annoying than the :rolleyes: one. The latter is a sign of losing an argument, the former is an attempt to start one.
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