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Eastern Europeans in the UK 'earn less and claim more' than those born in Britain
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Eastern Europeans in the UK 'earn less and claim more' than those born in Britain - but migrants from Western Europe, Australia and North America do better
*Report: Eastern Europeans claim more benefits than people born in Britain
*Study also found they earn lower wages than the UK-born population
*Pakistan, Bangladeshi & African migrants also more likely to claim benefits
*Figures come from the Office for National Statistics’ Labour Force Survey
Migrants from Eastern Europe claim more benefits and earn lower wages than people born in Britain, a new report has revealed.
Foreigners from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Africa were also more likely to claim benefits and be unemployed than those born in the UK.
But migrants from Western Europe, North America, India, Australia and New Zealand did better than those from Britain, the study found.
Some 4.9million migrants were more likely to be unemployed, receive state handouts or smaller pay packets in the UK, compared to 2.4million from countries that had a better chance of being in work, according to research by MigrationWatch.
The report, compiled using figures from the Office for National Statistics’ Labour Force Survey, revealed that Eastern European migrants had higher rates of claiming tax credits than the UK-born population.
It also found 70 per cent of Eastern European migrants earn less than the typical earnings of a UK-born worker.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3168884/Eastern-Europeans-UK-earn-claim-born-Britain.html#ixzz3gWZuPVAN
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Every time some left/liberal commentator speaks about immigration on television they start with, 'immigrants benefit us economically that's been accepted now', or words to that effect. Ever since the UCL report in fact.
What they never seen to want to discuss is that maybe migrants from some countries are a lot more beneficial than others economically. So if we blocked migrants from some countries and not others, apart from the screams of racism from the liberal/left, we might have both less and more economically viable immigration.
Tax credits seem to really distort the argument. Are we are importing huge numbers to perform work that is subsidised by the taxpayer? I thought the liberal/left were arguing that migrants don't claim benefits.
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How much higher?
"It also found 70 per cent of Eastern European migrants earn less than the typical earnings of a UK-born worker."
How much less?
"But migrants from Western Europe, North America, India, Australia and New Zealand did better than those from Britain, the study found."
"ecomomically viable immigration" or "stealing our (good ) jobs"?
and jobs that don't need doing.
One Starbucks per town, instead of one per block would make no difference to the UK.
Well as long as they pay their tax and don't try and avoid it by basing the majority of their company in a low tax country, I'm sure your right.
At least your not rubbishing MigrationWatch who have been consistently right on immigration.
Starbucks could of course pay its workers the living wage so they don't need to rely on tax credits.
Indeed they could, though that would undermine the tenets of the OP somewhat
The jobs Brits can't afford to do more like as mass immigration supresses wages. Recent immigrants tend to have far lower costs of living (eg often live in shared rooms) so can afford to live on lower wages.
if brits can't afford to do these jobs, then how do they live on unemployment benefit?
That doesn't change the fact that all Starbucks products are imported at hugely inflated prices, the mere fact of their existence coupled with their use of migrant workers is a huge drain on the UK economy.
We would all be better off if they didn't exist.
They have done what every uk government has wanted create a buisness in the uk and create jobs, the uk does not grow coffee so you could say that about every supermarket or shop that sells tea or coffee or anything else not grown or made in the uk. The super markets are causing more problems than starbucks are.
"state handouts"
"sweeping claims"
"David Cameron is under pressure" (from whom ?)
"unprecedented levels of migration"
"vast numbers of people"
Daily Mail is pushing an agenda rather informing the public.
By that, do you mean adults of working age and who are receipt of Job Seekers' Allowance and chose not to look for work ?
Even the BBC are reporting it. Wonders will never cease.
It's a new world with a Tory majority government and the BBC's future coming up for review. Expect more neutral news reporting.
So why were so many family migration visas allowed? So much for the argument that foreign spouses come here and work, so a minimum earnings limit actually costs us money. A quarter of all spouse visas are sponsored by British Pakistanis.
Doesn't surprise me, they have bigger families, low paid jobs and can't afford the housing as it's in short supply where they want to live in the city's.
Mass immigration had a helping hand from the taxpayer under Labour. They just forgot to mention that when they were going on about the benefits it provided.
The proponents of mass immigration using the UCL report have focused on JSA to argue that immigrants don't claim benefits.
In France for example anybody from outside their country wanting to drive a large commercial vehicle has to attend a classroom course for a month at their own expense all conducted in French.
That cuts out most cheap Eastern European labour from applying for driving jobs there.
Same could be done here - Except wait, the Tories are funded mainly by big business that wants all this cheap labour....
Maybe any old donkey can drive a truck in the UK ?, dont you need a HVG licence ?
No, the only useful business a foreign company can do in the UK is to set up a factory making widgets and export them to other countries.
Selling coffee to us at 100 times its cost value and then exporting all the profits overseas is VERY VERY bad for the UK economy.
We would be better off if Starbucks didn't exist at all.
Why manufactor goods in the uk at higher costs, you can manufacture goods in any country were labour is cheaper. You need uk based workers to serve the coffee in the coffee shops, you dont need you workers to make make manufactor coffee machines that can be done in any country, india china and loads of others. No buisness in the right mind buys more for labour or supplies than they have to. Corprates, big buisness, or any buisness are not there to do what is best for a country, they are there to do what is best for thier buisness and its shareholders, not its workforce or a country. Sorry but that is what Capitalism is all about max profit for the company and its shareholders.