The annual net income from Top Gear was around £5M.
Less than 5% of its cost to produce, (according to someone on here who said they had access to the figures).
That's what Evans is reported to be getting for hosting the show.
So no cash for "decent drama," eh?
It's accounting stuff similar to the transfer pricing that Apple, Amazon etc use. The BBC sell it to BBC Worldwide.
I am assuming the £50m is BBC Worldwide's sales so if they get £50m in sales and £5m in net income it probably means the BBC charge them most of the £45m in costs (obviously some marketing and admin costs).
One thing I'm trying to work out is how will TG still produce so many overseas segments as CE still has BBC Radio 2 Breakfast Show duties. We know JC, RH and JM did other work but that was in bunches, CE has Mon-Fri week in, week out and therefore what windows are open to do films overseas?
he could still broadcast the breakfast show live from any location live, its called a remote transmission. ken bruce does it for a whole week he is doing eurovision so for chris it would be a normal breakfast show
Why do you call people who criticise the BBC, morons?
You could say that about those who'll defend the BBC for whatever they do, but I won't.
The morons I'll remind you are the ones who bang on about the BBC being PC, ticking boxes, filling a quota etc even referring to there being a 'vaginia' presenting the programme as if a female could not do the job.
Sky and other broadcasters have issued reports declaring how inclusive they are but I don't see people challenging Sky over their policies, regarding choosing presenters because they are females.
Meanwhile if the morons are correct then Clarkson would have been put in a box and tucked away out of sight by the BBC, but what's this...
1992-1997 The Motor Show
1993 Clarkson’s Star Cars
1995 Jeremy Clarkson’s Motorworld, motoring culture worldwide
1995 Pebble Mill hosted with Sarah Greene
1995 Jeremy Clarkson’s Extreme Machines
1995 Jeremy Clarkson Meets the Neighbours, tour of European countries
1995 Jeremy Clarkson’s Motorworld UK, demise of UK motor industry
1995 Ferrari: The Italian Legend
1996 QED – How to win Grand Prix
1996 Noel’s House Party
1997 Room 101
1997 Mrs Merton Show
1998 Robot Wars host with Philippa Forrester
1998 Parkinson
1998 – 2000 Clarkson, chat show host
1999 Holiday
2000 Clarkson’s Car Years
2001 You Don’t Want To Do That
2001 Speed – appeal of rapid transit
2002 What Not To Wear – World’s Worst Dressed
2002 Ruby Wax Show
2002 Great Britons - Brunel
2003 Desert Island Discs
2003 Question Time
2003 The Victoria Cross: for Valour
2003 Have I Got News For You, hosted numerous times over the years
2003-2004 Grumpy Old Men
2004 QI numerous appearances
2004 Inventions That Changed The World
2004 Call My Bluff
2005 Stars in Fast Cars
2005 Who Do You Think You Are?
2005 Friday Night with Jonathon Ross
2005 Top of the Pops – Host with Fearne Cotton
2006 Never Mind the Buzzcocks – Host
2007 Jeremy Clarkson: Greatest Raid of All Time, Operation Chariot
That's just some of the programmes Jezza has presented or been involved with on the BBC, thus proving the moron driven clichés are themselves merely a tick box exercise to fulfil a quota.
The morons I'll remind you are the ones who bang on about the BBC being PC, ticking boxes, filling a quota etc even referring to there being a 'vaginia' presenting the programme as if a female could not do the job.
Sky and other broadcasters have issued reports declaring how inclusive they are but I don't see people challenging Sky over their policies, regarding choosing presenters because they are females.
Meanwhile if the morons are correct then Clarkson would have been put in a box and tucked away out of sight by the BBC, but what's this...
That's just some of the programmes Jezza has presented or been involved with on the BBC, thus proving the moron driven clichés are themselves merely a tick box exercise to fulfil a quota.
I heard Chris Evans on R2 this morning, explaining at great length his decision to accept the Top Gear job. Seriously, you'd think he'd just been commissioned to rewrite the Bible, such was the reverence and solemnity in his tone. Yet to me, Top Gear is one of those tedious interminable shows you sit through whilst waiting for something much better to come on, like we had to endure Tomorrow's World on a Thursday before Top of the Pops started.
Your statements speaks volumes about your depth of thinking. Tomorrow's World in our house was a must not miss programme along with just about every other documentary series.
Fifty years on and it's still the same. Surely one of the joys of being human is mans thirst for knowledge.
I heard Chris Evans on R2 this morning, explaining at great length his decision to accept the Top Gear job. Seriously, you'd think he'd just been commissioned to rewrite the Bible, such was the reverence and solemnity in his tone. Yet to me, Top Gear is one of those tedious interminable shows you sit through whilst waiting for something much better to come on, like we had to endure Tomorrow's World on a Thursday before Top of the Pops started.
So you would regularly "sit through" a 60-min programme that you did not enjoy, a programme that you found tedious, just because nothing else was on.
A fascinating insight.
Most people in that predicament would have simply switched over to one of the many other channels, or would have found something better to do with their time.
Your statements speaks volumes about your depth of thinking. Tomorrow's World in our house was a must not miss programme along with just about every other documentary series.
Fifty years on and it's still the same. Surely one of the joys of being human is mans thirst for knowledge.
I couldn't agree more about a thirst for knowledge being a joyful thing, but when I was a hormonal teenager waiting for ToTP to start, Tomorrow's World was something to be endured not enjoyed! And my problem is not with Top Gear itself - I appreciate I'm not its target audience - but rather the importance assigned to it and the acres of newsprint and yes, Internet forums dedicated to the show and its new host!
The Top Gear Die Hards (and I don't mean they'll die with an erection) do come across as a nasty bunch...look how they aggressively went at Sue Perkins.
I don't disagree but you could say the same about any number of "Anti Top Gear" diehards.
What's actually needed is a sense of proportion but we seem to have lost the ability for that.
PS I'm no fan of Chris Evans and I really don't think he's the man for the job (presenter maybe, producer no) but I'll probably watch the first one
And my problem is not with Top Gear itself - I appreciate I'm not its target audience - but rather the importance assigned to it and the acres of newsprint and yes, Internet forums dedicated to the show and its new host!
But why should that be a problem? TV is a pastime, and people enjoy discussions about TV programmes. So why not? And the internet is a big thing, pllenty of other forums around discussing all sorts of things, from the serious, through to light-hearted stuff, and across to the quirky and faintly surreal and ridiculous.
The new host of a very successful TV programme is news, so of course it's going to be reported quite widely, especially in the tabloid press.
So you would regularly "sit through" a 60-min programme that you did not enjoy, a programme that you found tedious, just because nothing else was on.
A fascinating insight.
Most people in that predicament would have simply switched over to one of the many other channels, or would have found something better to do with their time.
I was likening my feelings toward Top Gear to the way I felt about Tomorrow's World in the early eighties; in my student halls of residence which had a television room with one TV in it and you had to get in early to get a seat with a good view. Hence having to sit through Tomorrow's World waiting for TOTP.
Obviously now I have a choice I wouldn't dream of watching Top Gear in its entirety; the couple of minutes I may see whilst waiting for, to give a recent example, Hotel India, is more than enough.
I was likening my feelings toward Top Gear to the way I felt about Tomorrow's World in the early eighties; in my student halls of residence which had a television room with one TV in it and you had to get in early to get a seat with a good view. Hence having to sit through Tomorrow's World waiting for TOTP.
have to admit much of this almost makes me lol. i've said on the various TG topics on here that i've been a fan of the show and JC JM RH as presenters but, for me, the show was becoming tired in its general format etc etc. and PLEASE, i don't need told that it made £20 zillion a year for the BBC and is watched in 5000 countries, i'm simply saying for me the current show was wearing thin.
so ... i'm looking forward to the fresh start. yes, it'll be a success or fail, but i'm in the camp that it was time for a change and based on that i wish the new cast & crew all the best with it.
and i would LOVE to know how many of the 'well i'll tell you one thing, i won't be watching!!!!!!' brigade do actually sneak a peak when it re-launches :cool:
I'm a big fan of Top Gear and have been for years. Admittedly it was beginning to show signed of running out of ideas, but the camaraderie between the three was brilliant and it did become a guys having a blast type show still branded at Top Gear with "lads cars" thrown in to remind us it actually was a car show
There is now an opportunity for it to go back to its roots about cars, but not only that, trucks, motorbikes etc and as someone pointed out, with knowledge and information and creativity thrown in and excellent presenters in their own right this show could be back to its best in a new format.
Chris Evans is good, as a presenter, producer, and he has a love of cars without doubt. He is also rather "up" on his cars and does the Car Fest which is absolutely fantastic!
If the rumours are to be true, and Guy Martin is a co host, but more than likely pre-recorded type stuff as he tends to interact with the camera men and people interviewed and hands on, but again a very clever man, a deep interest and knowledge and passion for trucks, bikes and cars and he tells it how it is, might upset some folk but he is straight down the line. He would also be fantastic at challenges, anything involving speed would be right up his street
The fly in the ointment would be Jodie Kidd, she isn't great presenter, but CE may bring the best out of her, I would hope it's Suzie Perry to be fair, she is great with Cars and Motorbikes
I can't understand the hooha really, I for one am looking forward to it, and I wish Jezza, May and The Hamster well
We certainly cannot compare apples with pears here
I'm a big fan of Top Gear and have been for years. Admittedly it was beginning to show signed of running out of ideas, but the camaraderie between the three was brilliant and it did become a guys having a blast type show still branded at Top Gear with "lads cars" thrown in to remind us it actually was a car show
There is now an opportunity for it to go back to its roots about cars, but not only that, trucks, motorbikes etc and as someone pointed out, with knowledge and information and creativity thrown in and excellent presenters in their own right this show could be back to its best in a new format.
Chris Evans is good, as a presenter, producer, and he has a love of cars without doubt. He is also rather "up" on his cars and does the Car Fest which is absolutely fantastic!
If the rumours are to be true, and Guy Martin is a co host, but more than likely pre-recorded type stuff as he tends to interact with the camera men and people interviewed and hands on, but again a very clever man, a deep interest and knowledge and passion for trucks, bikes and cars and he tells it how it is, might upset some folk but he is straight down the line. He would also be fantastic at challenges, anything involving speed would be right up his street
The fly in the ointment would be Jodie Kidd, she isn't great presenter, but CE may bring the best out of her, I would hope it's Suzie Perry to be fair, she is great with Cars and Motorbikes
I can't understand the hooha really, I for one am looking forward to it, and I wish Jezza, May and The Hamster well
We certainly cannot compare apples with pears here
Great post
I recall a programme about Breakfast TV in the UK
They interviewed Bob Geldof (his company created The Big Breakfast) about why he appointed Chris Evans.
He said : "It was his big break, and was so important to him, that I KNEW he wouldn't screw it up"
Evans is not good at producing shows for other people to present - but when he is the host - and he believes in the project - it always works. (You can spot the ones he did just for the money !!)
Charlie Drake once said on the Bob Monkhouse show: "Think of commitment to a show like a plate of ham and eggs. The hen is involved, but the pig is totally committed"
There is now an opportunity for it to go back to its roots about cars, but not only that, trucks, motorbikes etc and as someone pointed out, with knowledge and information and creativity thrown in and excellent presenters in their own right this show could be back to its best in a new format
Stating "back to its best" suggests that you like car show. Now whilst there is nothing wrong with that, you are a small minority and it's not general entertainment. That is why that old format that you like so much died a death and the very reason why the general entertainment show that the 3 amigos developed took of to the worldwide success that it was.
Yes you will get your beloved car show back for two series (the arrogant BBC won't drop it after just one series even if it has one viewer) but then it will go the way it did in the past.
Charlie Drake once said on the Bob Monkhouse show: "Think of commitment to a show like a plate of ham and eggs. The hen is involved, but the pig is totally committed"
Dismissing everything and everyone in a most arrogant self-preening way, sure beats discussion. Best not to post if you have nothing to say.
Well all you ever do is tell us all that it's doomed, that it's bound to fail, and how TG is dead. You seem to know before anyone else what the show is going to be, how long it will last before it's cancelled. Where is the discussion in your constant rants of failure? Judging by the comments coming out of the BBC you're a long way off the mark regarding content anyway, but I'm not sure we should be surprised by that. You're interested only in the fact that Clarkson & Co. are no longer a part of the show. Anything else is irrelevant in your mind.
Why not be like the rest of us and wait and see? None of us know what's going to happen, so stop pretending otherwise. You might get an opportunity to point and laugh, but equally it might turn out to be a positive for the show. It might win over fans of the old team, it might bring back some of those who felt pushed away by the old team.
All you do by guessing what will happen is create the possibility of egg on face.
I should leave you to it really, but your insistence on pointing out that you know what's going to happen is rather annoying, not that I expect it to change. Leopards and all that.
Guy Martin was interviewed by BBCNI at the NW200 in May and asked about the possibility of joining Top Gear. He ruled himself out of the running at the time as he didn't feel he would be interested in the jokey bloke camaraderie format that TG was famed for.
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It's accounting stuff similar to the transfer pricing that Apple, Amazon etc use. The BBC sell it to BBC Worldwide.
I am assuming the £50m is BBC Worldwide's sales so if they get £50m in sales and £5m in net income it probably means the BBC charge them most of the £45m in costs (obviously some marketing and admin costs).
he could still broadcast the breakfast show live from any location live, its called a remote transmission. ken bruce does it for a whole week he is doing eurovision so for chris it would be a normal breakfast show
whatever happened to her, she vanished from exisitance
probably realised she wasn't relevant any more along with that annoying Jeremy from BBC's Airport series
The morons I'll remind you are the ones who bang on about the BBC being PC, ticking boxes, filling a quota etc even referring to there being a 'vaginia' presenting the programme as if a female could not do the job.
Sky and other broadcasters have issued reports declaring how inclusive they are but I don't see people challenging Sky over their policies, regarding choosing presenters because they are females.
Meanwhile if the morons are correct then Clarkson would have been put in a box and tucked away out of sight by the BBC, but what's this...
That's just some of the programmes Jezza has presented or been involved with on the BBC, thus proving the moron driven clichés are themselves merely a tick box exercise to fulfil a quota.
Hmm..
You wouldn't be a fan of the old fart would you?
Your statements speaks volumes about your depth of thinking. Tomorrow's World in our house was a must not miss programme along with just about every other documentary series.
Fifty years on and it's still the same. Surely one of the joys of being human is mans thirst for knowledge.
A fascinating insight.
Most people in that predicament would have simply switched over to one of the many other channels, or would have found something better to do with their time.
I don't disagree but you could say the same about any number of "Anti Top Gear" diehards.
What's actually needed is a sense of proportion but we seem to have lost the ability for that.
PS I'm no fan of Chris Evans and I really don't think he's the man for the job (presenter maybe, producer no) but I'll probably watch the first one
The new host of a very successful TV programme is news, so of course it's going to be reported quite widely, especially in the tabloid press.
I was likening my feelings toward Top Gear to the way I felt about Tomorrow's World in the early eighties; in my student halls of residence which had a television room with one TV in it and you had to get in early to get a seat with a good view. Hence having to sit through Tomorrow's World waiting for TOTP.
Obviously now I have a choice I wouldn't dream of watching Top Gear in its entirety; the couple of minutes I may see whilst waiting for, to give a recent example, Hotel India, is more than enough.
so ... i'm looking forward to the fresh start. yes, it'll be a success or fail, but i'm in the camp that it was time for a change and based on that i wish the new cast & crew all the best with it.
and i would LOVE to know how many of the 'well i'll tell you one thing, i won't be watching!!!!!!' brigade do actually sneak a peak when it re-launches :cool:
Thanks 😊
Each week Shaun Ryder shows up, and does a blood test to see if he is fit to drive.
There is now an opportunity for it to go back to its roots about cars, but not only that, trucks, motorbikes etc and as someone pointed out, with knowledge and information and creativity thrown in and excellent presenters in their own right this show could be back to its best in a new format.
Chris Evans is good, as a presenter, producer, and he has a love of cars without doubt. He is also rather "up" on his cars and does the Car Fest which is absolutely fantastic!
If the rumours are to be true, and Guy Martin is a co host, but more than likely pre-recorded type stuff as he tends to interact with the camera men and people interviewed and hands on, but again a very clever man, a deep interest and knowledge and passion for trucks, bikes and cars and he tells it how it is, might upset some folk but he is straight down the line. He would also be fantastic at challenges, anything involving speed would be right up his street
The fly in the ointment would be Jodie Kidd, she isn't great presenter, but CE may bring the best out of her, I would hope it's Suzie Perry to be fair, she is great with Cars and Motorbikes
I can't understand the hooha really, I for one am looking forward to it, and I wish Jezza, May and The Hamster well
We certainly cannot compare apples with pears here
Great post
I recall a programme about Breakfast TV in the UK
They interviewed Bob Geldof (his company created The Big Breakfast) about why he appointed Chris Evans.
He said : "It was his big break, and was so important to him, that I KNEW he wouldn't screw it up"
Evans is not good at producing shows for other people to present - but when he is the host - and he believes in the project - it always works. (You can spot the ones he did just for the money !!)
Charlie Drake once said on the Bob Monkhouse show: "Think of commitment to a show like a plate of ham and eggs. The hen is involved, but the pig is totally committed"
Stating "back to its best" suggests that you like car show. Now whilst there is nothing wrong with that, you are a small minority and it's not general entertainment. That is why that old format that you like so much died a death and the very reason why the general entertainment show that the 3 amigos developed took of to the worldwide success that it was.
Yes you will get your beloved car show back for two series (the arrogant BBC won't drop it after just one series even if it has one viewer) but then it will go the way it did in the past.
Great quote.
Dismissing everything and everyone in a most arrogant self-preening way, sure beats discussion. Best not to post if you have nothing to say.
Very knowledgeable, enthusiastic and more likeable than Chris Evans.
A bit like Captain Slow only with driving prowess.
Doubt he would have cost 5m over three years either.
Well all you ever do is tell us all that it's doomed, that it's bound to fail, and how TG is dead. You seem to know before anyone else what the show is going to be, how long it will last before it's cancelled. Where is the discussion in your constant rants of failure? Judging by the comments coming out of the BBC you're a long way off the mark regarding content anyway, but I'm not sure we should be surprised by that. You're interested only in the fact that Clarkson & Co. are no longer a part of the show. Anything else is irrelevant in your mind.
Why not be like the rest of us and wait and see? None of us know what's going to happen, so stop pretending otherwise. You might get an opportunity to point and laugh, but equally it might turn out to be a positive for the show. It might win over fans of the old team, it might bring back some of those who felt pushed away by the old team.
All you do by guessing what will happen is create the possibility of egg on face.
I should leave you to it really, but your insistence on pointing out that you know what's going to happen is rather annoying, not that I expect it to change. Leopards and all that.