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Murdoch: "If Cameron doesn't win majority, he's for the chop"

BoyardBoyard Posts: 5,393
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Ouch. Murdoch piling the pressure on Cameron with this Tweet:
@rupertmurdoch: UK. Failure to win majority against either Brown in crisis or Miliband would mean chop for Cameron. Open talk today in party and press.

Who would be your choice to replace him if it happens? I would say Boris but having seen his shambles of a performance on Marr this morning I'm not so sure anymore. I'm not even sure about May after her ridiculous comment about the SNP. Osbourne seems quite divisive too. Is anyone else in the running, do we know?
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    deptfordbakerdeptfordbaker Posts: 22,368
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    I would agree, but I have also heard that if the Labour SNP Green government is really unstable and an autumn election seems likely, they will keep him
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    HildaonplutoHildaonpluto Posts: 37,697
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    There doesn't seem to be much love between these two!
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    mountymounty Posts: 19,155
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    That goes without saying considering Cameron ruled out a third term, he can't campaign as Conservative leader in 5 years time and then suddenly quit.

    Despite some controversy I'd stil say it would be May who gets the nod
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    Michael_EveMichael_Eve Posts: 14,460
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    Penetrating insight from Rupes there. What a searing intellect. That and his charm, generosity of spirit and moral compass really makes him a Titan walking amongst us pygmies.
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    MattNMattN Posts: 2,534
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    This was his seat Prediction.

    @Rupertmurdoch :UK. Likely approximate outcome, far from certain - Con 294 seats, Lab 265, SNP 48, LD. 25, odds 18. Everything still to tight for!
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    Fappy_McFapperFappy_McFapper Posts: 1,302
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    It's been clear for years now that that scum bag Murdoch is furious that Cameron failed to easily oust Brown in 2010 which in turn exposed his false reputation as "king maker" and it looks like it may happen again.

    Murdoch is losing his grip.
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    FusionFuryFusionFury Posts: 14,121
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    Cameron is the easy fall guy.
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    TomWhittonTomWhitton Posts: 1,465
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    Oh **** Murdoch. Hope he croaks soon.
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    KapellmeisterKapellmeister Posts: 41,322
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    I would agree, but I have also heard that if the Labour SNP Green government is really unstable and an autumn election seems likely, they will keep him

    There won't be a Labour/SNP government. Miliband has ruled out any deals with the Scottish Nationalists and we must take him as a man of his word or call him a liar.

    As for Cameron, I think he'll go if the Tories can't form a majority. I can't stand Boris Johnson, and his performance this morning was an embarrassment. But then I suspect, like Jeremy Clarkson, he'd be popular enough with certain sections of the UK.
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    HildaonplutoHildaonpluto Posts: 37,697
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    It's been clear for years now that that scum bag Murdoch is furious that Cameron failed to easily oust Brown in 2010 which in turn exposed his false reputation as "king maker" and it looks like it may happen again.

    Murdoch is losing his grip.

    It seems that the press ability to sway elections may be overestimated...
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    Boyard wrote: »
    Ouch. Murdoch piling the pressure on Cameron with this Tweet:



    Who would be your choice to replace him if it happens? I would say Boris but having seen his shambles of a performance on Marr this morning I'm not so sure anymore. I'm not even sure about May after her ridiculous comment about the SNP. Osbourne seems quite divisive too. Is anyone else in the running, do we know?

    How could anyone be "in the running"? There is no vacancy.
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    TassiumTassium Posts: 31,639
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    I favour Theresa May as new leader.

    She has the charm, the intellect and her own tin foil hat...

    http://i.imgur.com/gzdvMyP.jpg
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    PencilPencil Posts: 5,700
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    In all fairness, Cameron is the best person for the job.

    He looks like a leader, acts like a leader, speaks like a leader and copes very well under pressure. He is relatively young, which is what the Conservatives need image-wise and experienced.

    In my opinion, the reason the Tories didn't quite beat Gordon Brown and are struggling to beat Miliband is because the party itself (not the leader) has a very very bad reputation in the north of England and Scotland. The unpopular cuts to just about everything hasn't helped matters and the Tories will be blamed for them - not Labour who largely caused the problems in the first place.
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    Sky_GuySky_Guy Posts: 6,859
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    That is obvious.
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    glasshalffullglasshalffull Posts: 22,291
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    Talk about stating the haemorrhagingly obvious :D
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    Living4LoveLiving4Love Posts: 1,989
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    It won't be Boris. The fact Miliband ran rings around him at the end of Marr shows he wouldn't be able to hack PMQs very well. Boris has zero experience in the house of commons. He is completely untested at the box. It has car crash written all over it.

    I think Hunt and May will go for it.

    The problem for the Tories is that Cameron is more popular than the party. So they do need to plan their next move carefully.
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    mooxmoox Posts: 18,880
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    It seems that the press ability to sway elections may be overestimated...

    I thought that was obvious when Murdoch only swung from Conservative to Labour in the 90s after they became truly unelectable, and back again in 2007-8 when Brown bottled it, didn't have that election, and became a lame duck prime minister hanging on until the last minute.

    Personally I like it when people go on about Cameron as if he's BFFs with Murdoch and that Miliband wouldn't do such a thing (except when he's peddled the Sun)
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    ElectraElectra Posts: 55,660
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    Wouldn't Boris' tangled private life rule him out anyway? The mistresses, love child, abortion etc?
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    Ash_M1Ash_M1 Posts: 18,703
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    There won't be a Labour/SNP government. Miliband has ruled out any deals with the Scottish Nationalists and we must take him as a man of his word or call him a liar.

    As for Cameron, I think he'll go if the Tories can't form a majority. I can't stand Boris Johnson, and his performance this morning was an embarrassment. But then I suspect, like Jeremy Clarkson, he'd be popular enough with certain sections of the UK.

    There will be no FORMAL Lab/SNP/Green coalition. That's obvious.

    Boris is hopeless. The tories have no 'quality' in their ranks. No normal people...apart from Ruth Davidson. Whilst I disagree with her politics, she comes across as a decent, normal human being.
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    Ash_M1Ash_M1 Posts: 18,703
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    Pencil wrote: »
    In all fairness, Cameron is the best person for the job.

    He looks like a leader, acts like a leader, speaks like a leader and copes very well under pressure. He is relatively young, which is what the Conservatives need image-wise and experienced.

    In my opinion, the reason the Tories didn't quite beat Gordon Brown and are struggling to beat Miliband is because the party itself (not the leader) has a very very bad reputation in the north of England and Scotland. The unpopular cuts to just about everything hasn't helped matters and the Tories will be blamed for them - not Labour who largely caused the problems in the first place.

    I disagree. It doesn't take long for the 'mister nice guy' mask to slip to reveal a not so 'mister nice guy'.

    The terrible tories have a bad, bad reputation across the country. It goes across boundaries, regions and countries.
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    boddismboddism Posts: 16,436
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    Boyard wrote: »
    Ouch. Murdoch piling the pressure on Cameron with this Tweet:



    Who would be your choice to replace him if it happens? I would say Boris but having seen his shambles of a performance on Marr this morning I'm not so sure anymore. I'm not even sure about May after her ridiculous comment about the SNP. Osbourne seems quite divisive too. Is anyone else in the running, do we know?
    Whilst I think Murdoch is stating the obvious Why does he have a right to throw his weight around??
    Arrogant megalomaniac -piss off & stop thinking you own the UK!
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    tony321tony321 Posts: 10,594
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    I wonder if the Murdoch rags will continue to back the Tories and continue the attacks on Miliband if as it looks likely that Ed is going to be the next PM. They might feel the need to mend some broken bridges before it is too late
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    *Sparkle**Sparkle* Posts: 10,957
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    boddism wrote: »
    Whilst I think Murdoch is stating the obvious Why does he have a right to throw his weight around??
    Arrogant megalomaniac -piss off & stop thinking you own the UK!

    He really does think he's in charge, and he's kind-of right, with the vast influence he has through a large chunk of UK media. He's in fear of Labour getting in and forcing through anti-monopoly rules for the media, so desperate times call for desperate measures.

    He possibly hopes that if there is a minority Labour government, there could be a vote of no confidence after a quick change of Tory leader, and before such legislation could be pushed through. It would be telling which other parties would risk supporting the move.
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    AnnsyreAnnsyre Posts: 109,504
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    Electra wrote: »
    Wouldn't Boris' tangled private life rule him out anyway? The mistresses, love child, abortion etc?

    It hasn't stopped him from being elected as London Mayor twice in a city that it predominantly Labour voting.
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    AlbacomAlbacom Posts: 34,578
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    tony321 wrote: »
    I wonder if the Murdoch rags will continue to back the Tories and continue the attacks on Miliband if as it looks likely that Ed is going to be the next PM. They might feel the need to mend some broken bridges before it is too late

    i can see the Murdoch press (and all right wing press) continuing their support the Tories because they will be very vocal in trying to get the right leader and once their poll ratings improve and the Government starts looking a bit shakey, there is a probabilty a no confidence motion could be brought upon the government. The right wing press will love that scenario. If they swing towards Labour, it will be only after Labour have won a majority.
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