I actually think it would be a good deterrent in this freezing weather (less so in the height of summer). Can you imagine being hours from home, dripping wet and cold and with no means to get home. Because coaches, trains etc would not let them on in that state.
I actually think it would be a good deterrent in this freezing weather (less so in the height of summer). Can you imagine being hours from home, dripping wet and cold and with no means to get home. Because coaches, trains etc would not let them on in that state.
Sounds lke a massive vilolation of human rights to me, and th impetus for a nice influx of hypothermia cases for the other public srvices to deal with/.
But, that wont dampen the fervor of those who just LOVE getting angry at other people getting angry.
Like a dog gone wrong, all chasing tails and chewing feet.
Sounds lke a massive vilolation of human rights to me, and th impetus for a nice influx of hypothermia cases for the other public srvices to deal with/.
Were you calling it a "violation of human rights" when the Belgian police used water canon on football rioters?
Britain is one of the very few countries in Europe that doesn't use water cannon, CS gas or plastic bullets as a means of crowd control (they have only been used occasionally in Northern Ireland, never on the mainland). We have one of the most restrained police forces in the world - and one of the very few which are unarmed.
Water Cannon, then baton charge the little beggars down.
If that fails, may i suggest in using the Ghurka's as riot control officers. vicious b'stards who won't take any nonsense from some jumped up student with ideas above his/her station
Were you calling it a "violation of human rights" when the Belgian police used water canon on football rioters?
Britain is one of the very few countries in Europe that doesn't use water cannon, CS gas or plastic bullets as a means of crowd control (they have only been used occasionally in Northern Ireland, never on the mainland). We have one of the most restrained police forces in the world - and one of the very few which are unarmed.
Thanks be our police doesnt gas its own citizens
The vast majority o protestors was peaceful, water cannons wont do them any favpurs.
I dont care though, It's the weekend and I'm not really prepared to rabbit on about bloody studnts and bloody coppers again all day.
I heard this on the news this morning, it's being considered and nothing more at the moment.
What worries me is that the peaceful demonstrators are going to be punished by the actions of the vigilanties, the rent-a-mob brigade, those who take advantage of the situation because they're hooligans, not bona fide students.
Considering the present police tactic is to contain the demonstrators and eventually bore them into submission I'm not sure how Water Cannon which are designed to quickly disburse and scatter crowds would be used.
I dont think in freezing temperatures Kettling people then blasting them with a water cannon would be a very good idea! Despite there being trouble makers in the bunch, why should a bunch of innocent peaceful protesters be subjected to hypothermia?
It's something of a tricky situation. You can, for example, use a hosepipe to clean a patio or drive, but not to water flowerbeds. Using a water cannon to hose down protesters is not covered. http://drought-order.com/hosepipe-bans.htm
And in any case, at the moment there is no hosepipe ban in most of the country.
I dont think in freezing temperatures Kettling people then blasting them with a water cannon would be a very good idea! Despite there being trouble makers in the bunch, why should a bunch of innocent peaceful protesters be subjected to hypothermia?
They could actually listen to what the police are telling them on loud speakers and proceed down the pre agreed route to their formation point where they can get back on their warm coaches and go home, or jump on the tube.
Instead, they decided to set up camp outside Parliament and run amok.. and then wonder why they weren't allowed to leave.
As a bystander that day, once I heard the police issue the 'Please move on for your own safety' warning at *1.30pm* I knew it was time to be on my way. They should have came to the same conclusion and followed the route. Instead they broke down barriers and ran across Parliament Green. Their choice.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L69HqKno3OI
They must be stupid if they ever thought the government would cave in on this.
I hope they ensure the water is set at just above zero.
And give 'em a haircut too.
Sounds lke a massive vilolation of human rights to me, and th impetus for a nice influx of hypothermia cases for the other public srvices to deal with/.
But, that wont dampen the fervor of those who just LOVE getting angry at other people getting angry.
Like a dog gone wrong, all chasing tails and chewing feet.
Were you calling it a "violation of human rights" when the Belgian police used water canon on football rioters?
Britain is one of the very few countries in Europe that doesn't use water cannon, CS gas or plastic bullets as a means of crowd control (they have only been used occasionally in Northern Ireland, never on the mainland). We have one of the most restrained police forces in the world - and one of the very few which are unarmed.
Water Cannon, then baton charge the little beggars down.
If that fails, may i suggest in using the Ghurka's as riot control officers. vicious b'stards who won't take any nonsense from some jumped up student with ideas above his/her station
Massively true.
Very democratic, using measures to stop people protesting against the establishment.
Thanks be our police doesnt gas its own citizens
The vast majority o protestors was peaceful, water cannons wont do them any favpurs.
I dont care though, It's the weekend and I'm not really prepared to rabbit on about bloody studnts and bloody coppers again all day.
What worries me is that the peaceful demonstrators are going to be punished by the actions of the vigilanties, the rent-a-mob brigade, those who take advantage of the situation because they're hooligans, not bona fide students.
I don't think this is likely to contravene it because the water cannon is not directly attached to the mains.
The hose that fills the water cannon is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNikc0_rjxU&feature=related
It's something of a tricky situation. You can, for example, use a hosepipe to clean a patio or drive, but not to water flowerbeds. Using a water cannon to hose down protesters is not covered.
http://drought-order.com/hosepipe-bans.htm
And in any case, at the moment there is no hosepipe ban in most of the country.
They could actually listen to what the police are telling them on loud speakers and proceed down the pre agreed route to their formation point where they can get back on their warm coaches and go home, or jump on the tube.
Instead, they decided to set up camp outside Parliament and run amok.. and then wonder why they weren't allowed to leave.
As a bystander that day, once I heard the police issue the 'Please move on for your own safety' warning at *1.30pm* I knew it was time to be on my way. They should have came to the same conclusion and followed the route. Instead they broke down barriers and ran across Parliament Green. Their choice.