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Vestra's Victorian Morality
podlover98
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Why does Madame Vestra flaunt round in her veil pretending the whole world is against her yet that potato man thing enjoys the freedom of the city and has mates in both London and Glasgow? Just a bit bizarre.
Also her comments to Clara were a bit pervy.
Also her comments to Clara were a bit pervy.
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She was kind of flirting with Clara. I guess she found Clara attractive, which Clara denotes at one point.
I swear, 90% of the questions on this message board were answered, explicitly, within the episode.
"I wear a veil to keep from view what many are pleased to call my disfigurement. I do not wear it as a courtesy to such people, but as a judgment on the quality of their hearts."
A Silurian lizard unveiled ....
For the sake of other people reading who might have questions, I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with not having picked up on some particular bit of dialogue, and I hope people would feel like they can ask. I know many would disagree.
Surely the OP isn't asking what her rationale is but why the same rationale doesn't apply to Sontarans wandering around London.
Well I guess it's that Strax looks less strange than Vastra to the Victorians. She is clearly a lizard Lady where as he could be a deformed dwarf, victim of an industrial accident? Take your pick. As there were limited ways of correcting problems then people just got on with life and people didn't notice missing fingers and stuff.
Strax (the "potato man") could pass for a somewhat odd human (all Sontarans looks like Clive James anyway). but there's no way for Vastra to pass herself off as "a bit foreign looking".
Also - it's possible (given some other scenes in that episode) that Vastra's veil is not just a piece of lace. There may be tech at work - something similar to a perception filter - so we may not be seeing her as the people around her do when she wears it.
Greg Wallace, surely?
Flirting with Clara wasn't 'pervy'. She was impressed by her feisty response and said so. Jenny picked up on the fact that this is trait Vastra finds attractive and lightly scolded her for her interest. Not sure what was pervy there.
I'd have said Greg Wallace myself ....:D
Snap!!
Vastra could probably get away with it too - the Victorians had no real concept of space aliens or even that life was possible off Earth. There may be a possibility of being mistaken for a demon though.
Interesting point about the veil being a perception filter though, hadn't thought of that:)
All sontarans probably know English, and its passed on through cloning. If a dalek can learn German, I'm sure sontarans learnt other languages.
Obviously the TARDIS's psychic gift stretches as far as it needs to - Strax isn't necessarily speaking Sontaran:
You're assuming that a Sontaran couldn't simply learn to speak English. Don't forget that aside from spending so much time on Earth with Vastra and Jenny, Strax was apparently living with or around humans for an unknown period of time before he met them - it would make perfect sense for him to learn English.
Besides, we know that Sontarans CAN speak English - or at least are able to produce real-time translations without the Tardis' being involved - we saw them talking to Rattigan before the Doctor arrived in "Sontaran Stratagem" and it's clear that they'd been communicating with humans for a long time before then.
Well, at least for one of the TOWIE lot
It's not a courtesy, it's a judgment. Vastra knows she doesn't have to wear a veil, she chooses to. It's an affirmative choice, and one that Strax hasn't made. He just doesn't care.
Questions are fine, encouraged. Mining for plot holes is silly. OP sounded relatively sarcastic, looked more interested in point scoring. Apologies if I've misinterpreted!