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The popularity of the likes of Helen Wood and Katie Hopkins
psy7ch
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Does this reflect a change in societies values or is it just the demographic make up of the BB viewer that has changed now? They wouldn't have stood a chance of winning BB a few years ago.
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I'm pretty sure those who dislike Hopkins are not a "minority". She was disliked by most people who knew of her before CBB, and a majority of those won't even be watching the series, so I highly doubt the majority of the GBP suddenly likes her.
Heck, it's not even a minority of BB fans who dislike her. While she leads favourite polls, she rates highly on least favourite polls too, tying for the top spot with Perez at one point on a recent poll. This "Most people like her and those who don't are few" idea is pure fantasy. In terms of viewers, the ratio of those who like and dislike her seems pretty equal.
The same goes for Helen. Nothing about her win suggests that her detractors were simply "a vociferous minority".
Absolutely.
Compare the likes of Katie Hopkins and Helen Wood to Rachel Rice and Shilpa Shetty?
I rest my case.
I've been watching BB since series one and the choice of winners now is a sad reflection of what society has now become.
Times have changed, people have changed and not for the better.
A loud mouth bigot with a lack of compassion and sincerity is more appealing to the audience who watch 'now' as oppose to the audience who watched 7-15 years ago.
Its the Jeremy Kyle culture.
Give me a "bore" like Rachel Rice over vicious bitches like Hopkins and Wood anyday.
(Not that I found Rachel boring at all, but that's the popular line trotted out, isn't it?).
I really don't get your point. Are you saying that the support is based simply on the desire to be contrary? And has nothing to do with Katie H at all? If so, I fully agree.
It is yeah. I thought Rachel Rice, while not a memorable winner, was a worthy one.
She gave her opinion is a diplomatic and fair way, always respectful of other peoples views and faced a lot of opposition in that house but did not once compromise herself for the sake of airtime or coverage. She was there for the experience and returned to her life as a teacher after her win.
She was the complete opposite to Hopkins and Wood in every shape and form and it's a sad state of affairs when people prefer this brand of nastiess fobbed of as "real" over real role models and inspiring females like Rachel.
Brilliant post.
People seem to conveniently forget that Rachel spoke her mind plenty in order to perpetuate the "fence sitter" nonsense. She just didn't scream and shout her opinion, or feel the need to be nasty to get it across (despite having a lot of nastiness levelled at her in there).
She's a perfect example of a strong, intelligent woman. It bemuses me when people use those terms to describe people like Katie H and Helen, who are the utter opposite of that. An intelligent woman can speak her mind without being cruel, a strong woman can retain her decency even when being on the receiving end of unwarranted hostility.
Hopkins and Wood are neither strong nor intelligent. They're just horrid.
Also, unmoderated social media like Twitter has given some people a taste for all that 'tell it like it is', 'I'm only being honest' bollux that's just an excuse for being hateful, so a lot more people are used to behaving like that now and see nothing wrong with it. Until they are on the receiving end, of course, when they get all uppity and offended, because at the same time as wanting to be able to say whatever comes into their heads, they also want not to be offended or upset by other peoples' honesty.
Note that they always support the celebrity and never the things they actually say, the worst of which is usually dismissed as a joke or a misunderstanding.
I agree with this, and it almost makes me ashamed to be a BB fan, because the show has become synonymous with that type of obnoxious outspoken attitude.
It's the idea that 'brutal honesty' is a good thing. It's the brutal bit that bothers me.
I've said from the word go that Katie H is effectively a marginally better spoken Helen Wood. They are exactly the same.
Agree:) and Hopkins will win too.>:(
Great posts. I miss the old days of Big Brother. Channels 5's Big Brother has bought along the worst type's of people. People who are in to shows like TOWIE, Made in Chelsea and Jordie Shore watch Big Brother now.
I don't believe for a second that the people who say Helen and Katie are nothing alike truly believe this. People just don't want to admit thay they are hypocrites for being against someone like Helen and in favour of someone like Katie.
They are very similar people, both of them are not nice people at all.
How she is with Perez, is how she treats people she dislikes in person who don't whistle to her tune, or have a northern regional accent. I've seen it unfortunately. She is being herself
I agree and Helen and Ash are backing Katie Hopkins. They both love her.
I'm worried that BB will ensure KH will be in the final with Kav, Calum, and Michelle....so that her win is guaranteed.
At least before you could say the good people usually did well, you can't even say that now.