This thread is hilarious at the attempts to criticize Ireland, bringing up the past from 7 decades ago and trying to prove that the UK is better....all I can say is well done Ireland!
I think you forgot to add "...and especially the USA for entering and basically winning the thing"
Britain (and empire countries) stood alone against Nazism until Hitler gave up trying to beat Britain and attacked Russia instead. Many Irish-men did personally fight against the Nazis. But Ireland and the Pope did b-all to stop the concentration camps.
It's open to debate really - at the time Britain was as evil in the minds of Irish people as Germany was... Subsequent revelations of course brought the horror of WW2 to light, to attack Ireland bring neutral is unfair.
It's not unfair, though, to be horrified at Éamon de Valera formally offering his condolences to the German Minister in Dublin on the death of Adolf Hitler in 1945. Condolences on the death of a monster, really?
There were many countries involved in the allied victory.
Of course but the US entering swung the momentum to them - the war would not have been won without them... But anyway we are talking about Ireland 2014 as others have said - I don't know why people are trying to bring Ireland down.
why not? We don't start wars or kill people , we enjoy a few pints and possibly have the most beautiful country in the world - in all fairness it ain't so bad.
You don't any more. Well not much, these days.
I'd say the families of innocent people that have died in the UK because of past IRA activities, might have something to say about that.
As for being possibly the most beautiful country in the world. Highly unlikely.
Of course but the US entering swung the momentum to them - the war would not have been won without them... But anyway we are talking about Ireland 2014 as others have said - I don't know why people are trying to bring Ireland down.
Actually a lot of the war was lost as Germany tried to invade Russia as it was fighting on too many fronts.
It's not unfair, though, to be horrified at Éamon de Valera formally offering his condolences to the German Minister in Dublin on the death of Adolf Hitler in 1945. Condolences on the death of a monster, really?
Its not news to the Irish that DeValera could be an unpleasant twit at times, we're quite honest about the faults in our past. The British, on the other hand, never seem to have noticed that Winston Churchill could also be an unpleasant twit at times - you seem to have sanitised your past.
Its not news to the Irish that DeValera could be an unpleasant twit at times, we're quite honest about the faults in our past. The British, on the other hand, never seem to have noticed that Winston Churchill could also be an unpleasant twit at times - you seem to have sanitised your past.
Winston Churchill was an anti working class arsehole of a man. Magnificent war leader, though. Winston Churchill was voted out of office the very same year he led the nation to victory in WW2, so you're quite wrong to say British folk couldn't see Churchill for what he was.
Winston Churchill was an anti working class arsehole of a man. Magnificent war leader, though. Winston Churchill was voted out of office the very same year he led the nation to victory in WW2, so you're quite wrong to say British folk couldn't see Churchill for what he was.
Oh, I didn't mean the British people of Churchill's own generation, they no doubt did see all his faults. I meant the way history has sanitised him. There was more to Churchill than inspiring speeches during WW2, and there's no doubt he had a dark side.
Oh, I didn't mean the British people of Churchill's own generation, they no doubt did see all his faults. I meant the way history has sanitised him. There was more to Churchill than inspiring speeches during WW2, and there's no doubt he had a dark side.
Don't be silly. We were neutral, leaning towards the Allied side during ww2. And some in Britain haven't stopped wailing and weeping about it ever since. If you'd had a "neutral" country like Franco's Spain on your doorstep you'd really have something to cry about.
Ireland did nothing to assist in the battle of the Atlantic.
Yes, the US is 26th in contributing science and technology to the world, just below Lituania, Iceland, and Serbia. That's certainly not politically motivated at all. Also 41st in cultural exports, just barely beating out Trinidad and Tobago, but not up to the global cultural relevance of Maritius or Malaysia.
Ireland did nothing to assist in the battle of the Atlantic.
Yes, we're so sorry that the massively rich, well armed Irish Free State refused to allow our state of the art air force and peerlessly well armed navy to assist you during the Battle of the Atlantic. Obviously the Third Reich was shaking in its shoes at the thoughts that the mighty Irish Free State might declare war on them.
This thread is hilarious at the attempts to criticize Ireland, bringing up the past from 7 decades ago and trying to prove that the UK is better....all I can say is well done Ireland!
It's a bullshit list anyway, like most of these so called lists of this, that and the other.
If you want a different ranking, just look at another list.
Yes, we're so sorry that the massively rich, well armed Irish Free State refused to allow our state of the art air force and peerlessly well armed navy to assist you during the Battle of the Atlantic. Obviously the Third Reich was shaking in its shoes at the thoughts that the mighty Irish Free State might declare war on them.
Winston Churchill was an anti working class arsehole of a man. Magnificent war leader, though. Winston Churchill was voted out of office the very same year he led the nation to victory in WW2, so you're quite wrong to say British folk couldn't see Churchill for what he was.
Churchill was not voted out of office. The coalition came to an end and so did his role as PM. In the General election the people chose a Labour government.
Yes, we're so sorry that the massively rich, well armed Irish Free State refused to allow our state of the art air force and peerlessly well armed navy to assist you during the Battle of the Atlantic. Obviously the Third Reich was shaking in its shoes at the thoughts that the mighty Irish Free State might declare war on them.
We only wanted access to your Atlantic ports so we could better protect shipping containing food for the UK and Ireland.
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At least they turned up.
You need to study the war more.
There were many countries involved in the allied victory.
Britain (and empire countries) stood alone against Nazism until Hitler gave up trying to beat Britain and attacked Russia instead. Many Irish-men did personally fight against the Nazis. But Ireland and the Pope did b-all to stop the concentration camps.
It's not unfair, though, to be horrified at Éamon de Valera formally offering his condolences to the German Minister in Dublin on the death of Adolf Hitler in 1945. Condolences on the death of a monster, really?
You don't any more. Well not much, these days.
I'd say the families of innocent people that have died in the UK because of past IRA activities, might have something to say about that.
As for being possibly the most beautiful country in the world. Highly unlikely.
Actually a lot of the war was lost as Germany tried to invade Russia as it was fighting on too many fronts.
Its not news to the Irish that DeValera could be an unpleasant twit at times, we're quite honest about the faults in our past. The British, on the other hand, never seem to have noticed that Winston Churchill could also be an unpleasant twit at times - you seem to have sanitised your past.
Definitely the Irish Free State/Republic of Ireland had every right to stay out of it.
Winston Churchill was an anti working class arsehole of a man. Magnificent war leader, though. Winston Churchill was voted out of office the very same year he led the nation to victory in WW2, so you're quite wrong to say British folk couldn't see Churchill for what he was.
Oh, I didn't mean the British people of Churchill's own generation, they no doubt did see all his faults. I meant the way history has sanitised him. There was more to Churchill than inspiring speeches during WW2, and there's no doubt he had a dark side.
Aye, fair comment.
Ireland did nothing to assist in the battle of the Atlantic.
Yes, we're so sorry that the massively rich, well armed Irish Free State refused to allow our state of the art air force and peerlessly well armed navy to assist you during the Battle of the Atlantic. Obviously the Third Reich was shaking in its shoes at the thoughts that the mighty Irish Free State might declare war on them.
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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rPM5D5Qg32k/T2Hpfffg0YI/AAAAAAAABek/EzImrsnyiqI/s1600/The-Lakes-Of-Killarney.jpg
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... stunningly beautiful on a nice day!
It's a bullshit list anyway, like most of these so called lists of this, that and the other.
If you want a different ranking, just look at another list.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index
So you should be.
We only wanted access to your Atlantic ports so we could better protect shipping containing food for the UK and Ireland.
Very nice, but I've seen as good as that in the UK.
Snowdon, north Wales.
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