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Poor Lea... if she wasn't an 'adult film' star and was just judged...
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...for how she actually acted and treated others in the House, I feel that she would be perceived in a more reailstic and fair way. Almost all the negativity directed at her is not related to what she actually says and does in the House.
A lot of people are not taking her at face value but judging her by her career choice and/or role as a mother.
Will Lea... may eventually be evicted for who people presume her to be?
I agree that her initial entrance was a bit awkward with her adverse reaction to the sad numpties in the Launch Night crowd booing her... but ever since then she has comes across as a self assured pleasant individual and has formed a wonderful rapport with Richard as well as fully engaging with most of the other HMs.
I just think it's a tad harsh that we take Peter's actions in the House as a way of initially defining him.... and even Nikki's and Shabaz's... yet Lea, has appeared to have offended the sensibilities of the reality TV forums by daring to be a porn star AND a mum AND had self professed macabre plastic surgery.
Give her a chance... she comes across as quite an interesting and pleasant lady... doesn't she?
Any thoughts?
Many thanks
A lot of people are not taking her at face value but judging her by her career choice and/or role as a mother.
Will Lea... may eventually be evicted for who people presume her to be?
I agree that her initial entrance was a bit awkward with her adverse reaction to the sad numpties in the Launch Night crowd booing her... but ever since then she has comes across as a self assured pleasant individual and has formed a wonderful rapport with Richard as well as fully engaging with most of the other HMs.
I just think it's a tad harsh that we take Peter's actions in the House as a way of initially defining him.... and even Nikki's and Shabaz's... yet Lea, has appeared to have offended the sensibilities of the reality TV forums by daring to be a porn star AND a mum AND had self professed macabre plastic surgery.
Give her a chance... she comes across as quite an interesting and pleasant lady... doesn't she?
Any thoughts?
Many thanks
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The Wetherspoons 'pay on answer' telephone will be mysteriously making some votes for her when shes nominated.
Good evening Loupadloop, thanks for your comment... but how does that reconcile with her have actually seen her asy and do in the House? Are we judging all the HMs by what we hear and read about their lives prior to BB?
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Most of the criticism is because of things that are straightforwardly true, such as her career choice and the fact that she's a mother of an 11 year old.
There isn't a lot of spinning and mind-reading and people claiming she's a bitch or sly or false or something because of things that don't actually show that.
Good evening JenniTH, many thanks for your well thoug out and considered response.
I think I grasp the angle that you are coming from... however I think as a nation we have to ask ourselves do we have the right to judge mothers any differently to those women without children. Are we really saying that a mother hasn't got the same rights a a non-parent when it comes to how they chose to earn their money... it could be argued that the child is benefitting at least financially from her choice.
I would ask people to look at the C4/E4 pornumentary about 'Seymour Butts' who a has a wonderful relationship with his child.
I would also ask people to consider the fact that whether we like it or not it will be other people's preconceptions and prejudices that will impact on the child directly as opposed to the specific actions of Lea.
But even with my points under consideration, I would be a fool not to clearly see the other side of the coin that you allude to.
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Good on you.I'll try to do the same although I must admit I do feel for her child.
However, I wasn't impressed with her reaction to the launch night crowd and I'm really not keen on her fixation with how she and her fellow inmates might be being portrayed. She appears to be the classic "looking for acceptance" type.
Having said that, on the evidence so far there are some far less interesting and worthy contestants this year.
Good evening puppetangel
If we are judging on physical looks alone, what's the point of the show? Furthermore she fully acknowledges, like Pete Burns, that in no shape or form is her choice of appearance conventional.
Many thanks for your reponse
Hiya Veri
I have been pleasantly surprised by the general restraint of negativity to the female HMs this year... although it may be a result of the actions of Shabaz and Sezer.
Regards
However, she has already been labelled and once a female housemate has been labelled they are finished. She will be evicted the moment she is up and booed, heckled and called a slag by the BB Mob no matter what she says or does.
You're arguing from 'shabaz's point of view here.
on tonights show he was complaining he wanted to go because they all didnt get him, and them not liking his 'act' it was all 'they they they'. People should take some responsibilty.
blaming peoples preconceptions, removes the responsibility from lea.
its like If you have a little boy and decide to dress him in girls clothes, then blaming all the school children who make fun of him when its you whos dressed him like that.
Lea should address whatever insecurities she has, such as worrying about people liking her, and worrying about her image by getting herself some self respect.
In the audition tape she drones on about how people have a go at her because they're fat and ugly...
then she drones on about how its fat peoples fault that they're fat because they eat and dont do any exercise,
but previously she said she was fat, then got liposuction then had all the skin surgically removed...
I hope shes voted of because A> shes a hypocrite, and B> shes going through some sort of midlife crisis, striving to be young and probably embaressing the hell out of her kid more so than ever as now EVERYONES going to know about what videos she makes.
It would be a lovely old world if it didn't matter what you did etc. but in the real world it sadly does. And your child often has to deal with the flack from what you do and so you have to keep that in mind (or rather IMO you have to keep that in mind). I would suspect that if you asked most children what would they prefer a new x-Box or not to have to deal with the flack from outrageous parental behaviour it would be fairly clear cut.
And I have to say that I think that we absolutely do regard some of the actions of mothers in a different way than those who are not mothers. And I think that is as it should be. Or to put it more in line with what I think, I believe we as women should regard our actions differently once we have children. And the fact that so many women don't is, IMO, one of the things we are suffering from. So no I don't think I should judge another mother, but I do think the mother should judge herself (not talking about Lea by the way just a generic mother)
I wish there could be an embargo on google for at least a month, so we can form our own opinions on what we actually see...............
OK, after a month, bring out all their 'previous' as the cops say, but let's give 'em a fair trail first !
Most women in porn have histories of sexual abuse - they've been taught their only value is sexual. They are often vulnerable and are the last people who need to be judged.
And as always, I believe it's only fair to judge everyone from their behaviour in the house, not what they have or haven't done in the outside world.
Anyway, "judging" doesn't normally have anything about action built in.
She may of had a bad childhood or whatever,
but thats no excuse for ending up in porn, (and i dont mean, no excuse as in there are no excuses, i mean its not an excuse to use) she ended up doing porn because she wanted to.
take thingy from the apprentice, she worked hard and made a success out of herself despite a bad upbringing.
Sleezer made a success out of himself despite a bad upbringing.
her decision at the end of the day.
People should be allowed to sneer at her upon clicking the links, she let herself have those pictures taken. she then went on bigbrother knowing full well that it'd all come out and everyone would end up knowing.